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ApplebyArrows · 11/02/2026 08:34

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 11/02/2026 07:54

I think the initial reports were when the shooting was still active. If you're warning people you're going to give a description corresponding with what they might see. Eg "suspect is female, dark hair. Wearing a dress" rather than "not sure if it's a male or female, they're in a dress, best you go up and take a close look to check if they are really male"

What if that leads to people spotting the suspect, clocking that he isn't female, and then failing to take the necessary precautions?

ThatCyanCat · 11/02/2026 08:33

Supporterofwomensrights · 11/02/2026 08:23

I hope you're wrong. Being lied to when people's safety was still at risk is surely likely to make ordinary people angry. However, it's possible or likely Canada doesn't have a resistance organised enough to really push for change. I hope, for their sake, this is at least a crack in the dominance of the ideology.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not.

If he had survived and gone on the run, they would have rather told everyone to look out for a woman (they might perhaps have slipped "assigned male at birth" somewhere three paras down) than be open and honest about the very first characteristic people will clock after skin colour. Affirming the lie trumps everything.

daysofpearlyspencer · 11/02/2026 08:30

Supporterofwomensrights · 11/02/2026 08:23

I hope you're wrong. Being lied to when people's safety was still at risk is surely likely to make ordinary people angry. However, it's possible or likely Canada doesn't have a resistance organised enough to really push for change. I hope, for their sake, this is at least a crack in the dominance of the ideology.

Unfortunately, self identification is enshrined in law in Canada, the trans lobby is extremely powerful there, they are calling the killer a gun person rather than mis gender him. The correct pronouns usage is way more important than dead children apparently.....

LesbianNana · 11/02/2026 08:28

Ebok1990 · 11/02/2026 08:15

He's not a woman of any description though. He's a man.

Very true, I agree.

borntobequiet · 11/02/2026 08:28

PersephoneParlormaid · 11/02/2026 08:12

They’ve just said on the BBC news that they were initially looking for a woman in a dress. Why are they repeating this when they now know it’s not a woman?

Edited

They can’t bring themselves to be honest about it, even now. Weasels.

Dannexe · 11/02/2026 08:24

Bikergran · 11/02/2026 08:21

FFS. So many people dead, probably many children, and all people can hark on about here is bloody gender ideology, and bicker with each other. I'm heartbroken for the families of these poor children. The shooter is apparently dead. No doubt a full investigation will be carried out, and only then will we actually know the complete truth. Whoever he/she/it/they was, there was obviously severe mental illness involved. Abdolute tragedy for all concerned.

This is precisely why accurate reporting matters though. We wouldn’t be discussing it if it had been reported accurately. It takes away from the main issue which is the dreadful loss of life.

Supporterofwomensrights · 11/02/2026 08:23

ThatCyanCat · 11/02/2026 08:10

It won't wake them up. If he'd survived they'd house him in a women's prison and impose sanctions on anyone who didn't refer to him as female. They'll record it as a female crime and accuse anyone who objects, even if that includes bereaved families, of exploiting a tragedy to advance their bigotry.

The country is insane on this matter. This devastation won't change it.

I hope you're wrong. Being lied to when people's safety was still at risk is surely likely to make ordinary people angry. However, it's possible or likely Canada doesn't have a resistance organised enough to really push for change. I hope, for their sake, this is at least a crack in the dominance of the ideology.

Bikergran · 11/02/2026 08:21

FFS. So many people dead, probably many children, and all people can hark on about here is bloody gender ideology, and bicker with each other. I'm heartbroken for the families of these poor children. The shooter is apparently dead. No doubt a full investigation will be carried out, and only then will we actually know the complete truth. Whoever he/she/it/they was, there was obviously severe mental illness involved. Abdolute tragedy for all concerned.

Ebok1990 · 11/02/2026 08:15

LesbianNana · 11/02/2026 07:49

It takes the focus off of this horrible tragedy as everyone is now scratching their head. News should be transparent. Just say he’s a transwoman.

Apparently this is quite a small town, only 2,400 people, so almost everyone will be affected by this to varying degrees. It’s truly awful.

www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/canada-tumbler-ridge-british-columbia-school-shooting-latest-b2917937.html

He's not a woman of any description though. He's a man.

Ebok1990 · 11/02/2026 08:13

HairyToity · 11/02/2026 07:24

She / he could well have brought the guns in illegally from the USA.

He.

Tackthat · 11/02/2026 08:13

Something needs to be done about this. It seems every year a white male does this.

If this was another race it would become part of their stereotype.

PersephoneParlormaid · 11/02/2026 08:12

They’ve just said on the BBC news that they were initially looking for a woman in a dress. Why are they repeating this when they now know it’s not a woman?

ThatCyanCat · 11/02/2026 08:10

Supporterofwomensrights · 11/02/2026 08:03

I hate that this is what it takes to wake Canada up. I always figured it'd be a woman in the boxing ring that would be killed. Instead it's kids at school. How very sad. I feel absolutely awful for the families of the victims.

It won't wake them up. If he'd survived they'd house him in a women's prison and impose sanctions on anyone who didn't refer to him as female. They'll record it as a female crime and accuse anyone who objects, even if that includes bereaved families, of exploiting a tragedy to advance their bigotry.

The country is insane on this matter. This devastation won't change it.

TellMeWhatToWear · 11/02/2026 08:06

HairyToity · 11/02/2026 07:24

She / he could well have brought the guns in illegally from the USA.

Possible, but no need, Canada has high levels of gun ownership (lower than the US).

MidnightPatrol · 11/02/2026 08:05

Tragic for all of those involved.

Again and again in these stories, troubled children have been given free access to guns in their parents homes.

It is astonishing these parents think this is a good idea…!

Supporterofwomensrights · 11/02/2026 08:03

I hate that this is what it takes to wake Canada up. I always figured it'd be a woman in the boxing ring that would be killed. Instead it's kids at school. How very sad. I feel absolutely awful for the families of the victims.

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 11/02/2026 08:03

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/02/2026 07:59

The reports should say acutely disturbed male murders school friend. Those poor kids and families destroyed by someone who was failed by society.

Have they identified them? Can’t see anything yet!

Dannexe · 11/02/2026 08:03

The name has now been released and a relative has confirmed the shooter was born male and was transgender presenting as female and using she/her pronouns

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 11/02/2026 08:00

Chersfrozenface · 11/02/2026 07:57

"Person" would do fine as a description. "A person in a dress with brown hair". "A brown-haired person in a dress".

But if the initial reports the police were getting were saying it's a girl in a dress, why would they change that to person?

I agree that if it's now clear that the shooter was male, that ought to be stated

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/02/2026 07:59

The reports should say acutely disturbed male murders school friend. Those poor kids and families destroyed by someone who was failed by society.

forgotmyusername1 · 11/02/2026 07:59

In the independent article it says that the shooter has been described as female which would be unusual as nearly all mass shootings are committed by men

Instantly when i saw the description of the shooter i knew they would be a non woman

MissAustenMadeAQuilt · 11/02/2026 07:57

I suppose the next thing will be that this terrible crime will be recorded as committed by a woman and the stat produced when these people want to say that women also commit mass shootings.

Chersfrozenface · 11/02/2026 07:57

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 11/02/2026 07:54

I think the initial reports were when the shooting was still active. If you're warning people you're going to give a description corresponding with what they might see. Eg "suspect is female, dark hair. Wearing a dress" rather than "not sure if it's a male or female, they're in a dress, best you go up and take a close look to check if they are really male"

"Person" would do fine as a description. "A person in a dress with brown hair". "A brown-haired person in a dress".

MissAustenMadeAQuilt · 11/02/2026 07:55

Dannexe · 11/02/2026 07:20

I don’t generally look at Fox News for obvious (right wing fascist) reasons but they have used the phrase “gunman” in their headline before going on to use the phrase “female in a dress” in quotation marks

You will often find that channels like Fox News will report accurately in matters like this, while more left wing channels-including the BBC-will tie themselves in knots in an effort to avoid calling a spade a shovel or, in this case, calling a man a man.

It comes to something when accurate reporting is sacrificed on the altar of stupidity.

thoseboxessmellbob · 11/02/2026 07:54

HarryMaguireSlabHead · 11/02/2026 07:51

The initial reports said the killer was female and a woman, but there are now reports that he was a 17 year old man?

What is going on?

Canada, Land of the Mounties, Rockies and reality denial is going on.

Canada believes men can be literally women.