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Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:48

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:41

yes, they are being failed by this ideology.

And we are called transphobes for wanting them to have proper mental health support rather than being immediately affirmed.

Make it make sense.

Quite.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:47

ChickenCooper · 11/02/2026 10:42

It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.

The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.

The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

It's hatred of males. Not transwomen.

You are attacking the messenger. Per capita of 'trans', they most certainly are over-represented from their community. You should be ashamed of trying to silence discussion and burying the facts.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:47

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:44

Lol, sorry, but the williams 'institute' is a pro-trans think tank, it is not reliable and has put out 'studies' in the past that they have either had to retract or put out warnings that the data is unreliable. They're an absolute joke!

And no, us LEFT WING FEMINISTS fear men. Males. But you men with your Male Privilege and Toxic Masculinity think you know what we're about, but you don't. You don't listen to us so don't understand it's about male vs female. Not anything else.

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Fair enough. I'm not so deeply steeped in the trans / anti-trans culture wars to know that kind of thing off the top of my head.

What figures did you use to arrive at the conclusion that trans-identifying people are "certainly over represented" as perpetrators of school shootings? I've shown my sources, show us yours.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:46

But it’s strange that of the very few women who have committed mass shootings,
3 of them have been trans identified females.

DownhillTeaTray · 11/02/2026 10:46

ChickenCooper · 11/02/2026 10:42

It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.

The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.

The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

A man in a dress has killed his mother, his sister, and multiple children.

So he has now added to the statistics.

We do not need to be ashamed for pointing this out.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/02/2026 10:45

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:41

There were 473 school shootings in the US 2019 - 2025 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000%E2%80%93present) ). So far in this thread there's been three, maybe four of those that were perpetrated by trans-identifying people. That's less than 1% of school shootings which even the most innumerate of people wouldn't agree represents "the vast majority".

As for trans-identifying people being "certainly over-represented", there's a range of figures for how many of the US population is trans-identifying but figures of around 1% overall seem common, eg https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ although numbers for the age range more likely to shoot up a school tend to be higher. So less than 1% of school shooters are trans-identifying against around 1% of the population identifying as trans. And that, to you, is them being "over-represented", is it?

Keep being scared of what the right-wing grifters tell you to be scared about. Your fears keep them rich.

Wikipedia and the Williams Institute are the only
sources ever mentioned by TRAs. So predictable.

Newyearsameme26 · 11/02/2026 10:44

I don't think transpeople are over represented, my observation is that men are. It would be highly unusual for a woman to have committed this crime. Not unheard of, but not usual.

CassOle · 11/02/2026 10:44

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No, that is not the shooter. There has been some confusion, but the individual you posted is too old.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:44

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:41

There were 473 school shootings in the US 2019 - 2025 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000%E2%80%93present) ). So far in this thread there's been three, maybe four of those that were perpetrated by trans-identifying people. That's less than 1% of school shootings which even the most innumerate of people wouldn't agree represents "the vast majority".

As for trans-identifying people being "certainly over-represented", there's a range of figures for how many of the US population is trans-identifying but figures of around 1% overall seem common, eg https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ although numbers for the age range more likely to shoot up a school tend to be higher. So less than 1% of school shooters are trans-identifying against around 1% of the population identifying as trans. And that, to you, is them being "over-represented", is it?

Keep being scared of what the right-wing grifters tell you to be scared about. Your fears keep them rich.

Lol, sorry, but the williams 'institute' is a pro-trans think tank, it is not reliable and has put out 'studies' in the past that they have either had to retract or put out warnings that the data is unreliable. They're an absolute joke!

And no, us LEFT WING FEMINISTS fear men. Males. But you men with your Male Privilege and Toxic Masculinity think you know what we're about, but you don't. You don't listen to us so don't understand it's about male vs female. Not anything else.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:43

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:41

There were 473 school shootings in the US 2019 - 2025 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000%E2%80%93present) ). So far in this thread there's been three, maybe four of those that were perpetrated by trans-identifying people. That's less than 1% of school shootings which even the most innumerate of people wouldn't agree represents "the vast majority".

As for trans-identifying people being "certainly over-represented", there's a range of figures for how many of the US population is trans-identifying but figures of around 1% overall seem common, eg https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ although numbers for the age range more likely to shoot up a school tend to be higher. So less than 1% of school shooters are trans-identifying against around 1% of the population identifying as trans. And that, to you, is them being "over-represented", is it?

Keep being scared of what the right-wing grifters tell you to be scared about. Your fears keep them rich.

Sure it’s totes all down to the right wing that many of these men fantasise about killing women.

https://terfisaslur.com/

TERF is a slur

Documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics

https://terfisaslur.com/

ChickenCooper · 11/02/2026 10:42

It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.

The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.

The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:41

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:30

That is certainly not what the statistics show.

And, per capita of their community, they are certainly over-represented.

There were 473 school shootings in the US 2019 - 2025 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000%E2%80%93present) ). So far in this thread there's been three, maybe four of those that were perpetrated by trans-identifying people. That's less than 1% of school shootings which even the most innumerate of people wouldn't agree represents "the vast majority".

As for trans-identifying people being "certainly over-represented", there's a range of figures for how many of the US population is trans-identifying but figures of around 1% overall seem common, eg https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/ although numbers for the age range more likely to shoot up a school tend to be higher. So less than 1% of school shooters are trans-identifying against around 1% of the population identifying as trans. And that, to you, is them being "over-represented", is it?

Keep being scared of what the right-wing grifters tell you to be scared about. Your fears keep them rich.

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:41

nolongersurprised · 11/02/2026 10:39

The sacred caste of trans is why disturbed, mentally unwell boys/men can’t access proper psychological help when they also decide they are girls. Everything is affirming only, or it’s “conversion therapy”.

yes, they are being failed by this ideology.

And we are called transphobes for wanting them to have proper mental health support rather than being immediately affirmed.

Make it make sense.

nolongersurprised · 11/02/2026 10:39

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:33

Well I think it is disrespectful to the victims NOT to mention that this shooter was a man with a trans identity.

People who want to hide this fact are creating a sacred caste.

Children have been killed FFS.

The sacred caste of trans is why disturbed, mentally unwell boys/men can’t access proper psychological help when they also decide they are girls. Everything is affirming only, or it’s “conversion therapy”.

SnowdropCrocus · 11/02/2026 10:37

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:31

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

Stop arguing and get a job.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:37

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

To “disprove it” you need to link to your source. We need to see what the claim is based on. How far back? Trans stuff has only been a mass thing in the last decade or so.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:36

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:27

People died and you idiots are arguing over the sex of the shooter 🤦🏻‍♀️ some of you need to get jobs

Maybe think a little deeper than surface level. It matters on two counts: accurate warning information which is vital, and two, ascribing crimes to women that are not womens crimes, meaning data is skewed. But too many people are puddle depth thinkers.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/02/2026 10:35

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:30

That is certainly not what the statistics show.

And, per capita of their community, they are certainly over-represented.

I would agree with that. I haven’t claimed they are the “majority”. I do think they’re overrepresented in the last decade.

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2026 10:33

Well I think it is disrespectful to the victims NOT to mention that this shooter was a man with a trans identity.

People who want to hide this fact are creating a sacred caste.

Children have been killed FFS.

Newyearsameme26 · 11/02/2026 10:33

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

But they might not have were it not for this dangerous ideology.

Arraminta · 11/02/2026 10:32

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:29

I'm sure though that anyone who got a good look at the shooter knew quite well it wasn't female. Unless they were blinder than Stevie Wonder. So the question is why not say a male with long hair, etc etc?

You certainly wouldn't have needed 'a good look' to ascertain he was a man FFS! He looks like a shed in a dress.

itsnotmeitsyouprobs · 11/02/2026 10:31

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/02/2026 10:28

No. We’re pointing out that adherence to a batshit ideology has made people less safe in the communications during the crisis and trying to stop further tragedies. HTH

Again people died. This is stupid. HTH

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:30

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

That is certainly not what the statistics show.

And, per capita of their community, they are certainly over-represented.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:29

DotAndCarryOne2 · 11/02/2026 09:47

Clearly not. The shelter in place warning was an emergency and relied on an accurate description of the shooter to protect the public. And the best description at the time was female, brown hair, wearing a dress. I don’t imagine the priority of the authorities at that point was to verify if the shooter actually was female, when how they presented was the critical factor.

I'm sure though that anyone who got a good look at the shooter knew quite well it wasn't female. Unless they were blinder than Stevie Wonder. So the question is why not say a male with long hair, etc etc?

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 11/02/2026 10:29

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 10:16

It's hardly an 'agenda' when it's the TRUTH. Sorry the truth is inconvenient to you. But it is what it is. Ignoring it and blaming the messenger won't change anything or solve anything.

But that's the thing - the claim that the vast majority of school shootings are perpetrated by trans-identifying people simply isn't the TRUTH. It demonstrably and provably is false, no matter how much agenda-pushing right-wing media might try to make you think otherwise.

<1% of school shootings were done by trans-identifying people. Pretending otherwise and spreading blatant, easily-disproved lies won't change anything or solve anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.

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