At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

You can use it as a source just be aware that it is run by Trans Activists so the facts are not always facts. Again, this is from the guy that invented it.

And don’t forget that these men spend hours on the internet where they encounter trans ideology an porn, lots of porn

Apparently we're not supposed to use wikipedia as a source.

The facts are not already known.

You think you know the facts based on some initial reports and social media.

Those two things are not the same.

There has been more than one occasion where everyone "knows" a killer is e.g. Muslim or an immigrant at first. Just look at the speculation regarding that stabbing in Leicester the other week.

We need to wait for formal confirmation from the Canadian authorities. Anything else is just speculation.

I'm struggling to keep up, you hate all males now?

I imagine there is quite a crossover between incels and trans-indentified young men of the type who are straight, not the gay and naturally effeminate type. They are the losers and the loners who don't gel with people of either sex and feel rejected by everybody. They hate women because women have no interest in them, but at the same time they are fascinated by them and have the strong conviction that women have everything easier, better and fairer. Hence they decide that cosplaying a woman is the answer to their problems.

OK. How many school shootings in total do you think there have been in the US since, say, 2019? And on what source do you base that number?

But the facts are already known. What we are angry about is that they are not being conveyed accurately.

I just heard a Times Radio report about it saying that the BC police had talked about a female suspect, then conclued with "the suspect then killed themselves". They know, alright.

Those goalposts really are moving all over the place today, aren't they? I thought this thread was about a school shooting allegedly perpetrated by a trans-identifying man. Are we now only interested in trans-identifying women?

I've given you my sources and you're free to dispute them. What are yours?

Problem is, when there is a hint of this ideology, facts are not top of the agenda.

You always have to assume Wiki is wrong, even the man who invented it has been saying so for years.

But yes, I’m sure it’s very important to uphold “trans rights” at all costs and no one should be monitoring the ones who threaten to kill people.

Not really, no. Do you think the first time these people think about violence is when they pick up a gun and start shooting people?

Exactly.

Why of all mass shootings by women (men are more likely to regardless of anything else) are trans identified females so overrepresented? There have only been a tiny number of female mass shooters going back decades (probably less than ten). 3 of them are trans identified females. So you are wrong on that figure, despite your hasty google search.

There is absolutely no proper confirmation - yet - that the shooter is trans.

Even if they are trans, there is absolutely no evidence that their trans identity is related to the motivation for the shooting.

This is not the time to get on a soapbox or speculate.

Let's wait until we have some facts.

This is a massive tragedy for all involved.

There is no better time though, to make sure information is accurate so that falsehoods stop replicating forever on the internet.

Yes I imagine that’s part of it but I think the mental health problems/personality disorders are probably similar to the men. The testosterone might be the reason they are over represented among female shooters.

I'm not a "TRA" so please don't use that slur with me.

If you think my numbers are wrong then fine, give your sources. The wikipedia article simply counts school shootings without any mention of the perpetrator's views on sex or gender. Should I assume it's wrong? How many school shootings in the US do you think have happened since 2019?

I used the Williams Institute simply because that was the one that came up first in a google search I just did. I'd never heard of it before and I'm not so engrained in the minutia of the trans / anti-trans wars to instantly recognise it as one that takes any particular side. What do you think the percentage of the US population is that's trans-identifying?

The concept that children can change sex requires a huge leap of faith. Especially is they’ve been puberty blocked then placed on cross sex hormones - for boys who have started this in early puberty they’ll never have an orgasm and will be infertile.

This can only be considered an acceptable trade-off if you believe that transitioning is the correct thing to do, that the individual will be happier and function well in society.

Stories like this go against the narrative that transitioning children, without question, is the right thing to do. We do need to talk about it.

Snochia Moseley, 2018, one of the very few female shooters and the other that identified as “trans” in some way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Aberdeen,_Maryland_shooting

Elevated testosterone levels?

Yes. Shame on anyone who values ideology above human life.

Whether it’s sex fetishism or mental illness, the link between transgenderism and increased risk of sex abuse or violence becomes more obvious with every horrific event.

Pretending transgenderism is a harmless ‘identity’ is both dishonest and dangerous. In girls/women it leads more often to self-harm through drugs and surgery. Men turn the violence outwards against other people.

I think it's an obvious given that on a parenting site most people will have huge sympathy for the breaved parents and affected teens - who saw or who were injured or who lost friends.

Sadly the most shocking thing about school shooting these days - and is here - it's it happened outside the USA.

I am fed up with the reporting - mass murdered can't be misgendered - vunerable kids public should be on look out for can't be misgenedered - dangerous individual like convicted rapists can't be misgendered in print - it doesn't make the public safer - it normalises misinformation.

This is a huge tragedy that this mentally unwell individual - because it's not act of well person - got hold of a gun rather than mental health help they clearly needed.

If them identiftiying as trans was a barrier to mental health help then that needs raisng now - as does tighter gun control - it' apparently down to each area in Canada and this one has most guns - because if it's not done now it won't happen - and chances of somthing like this happening again are so much higher.

Gosh, don't goalposts move quickly these days?