At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia

At the risk of boring even myself, what proportion of the US population do you think is trans-identifying and what is your source for that? That is, after all, the sole number I got from the Williams Institute and I'm happy to accept it's wrong if it is indeed wrong. (Weirdly, despite several people falling over themselves to tell me it's biased nonsense, and despite me asking several times now, no-one has so far managed to tell me what source I should be using instead.)

I'll now jog over from the "school shootings perpetrated by all trans-identifying men" to "mass shootings perpetrated by trans-identifying women" pitch. A couple of questions if I may - how many mass shootings, and over which time frame, have you counted as having been perpetrated by women? And what are you counting as a "mass-shooting", because as anyone with the slightest knowledge of gun control arguments is aware that is a VERY contentious point.

They’re not moving anywhere. I made it clear why I think it’s absolutely relevant that a proportion of these men are sitting in their bedsits fantasising about violence against women they disagree with. It IS a problem, whatever biased nonsense you’ve lapped up from the Williams Institute.

Ive already mentioned on this thread and others when other trans identifying people have committed mass shootings that I’m interested in trans identifying women because the proportion is high. It’s not what I would expect, so I’ve been struck by it.

Even if it is a man it doesn’t mean it’s a trans person - could be a man using it Asa disguise to be less noticeable around a school - I don’t think you can presume.

I can't keep repeating myself.

We should wait for the formal identification and go from there.

Wikipedia is run by Trans Activists now? Gosh, I wasn't aware. So much information emerging on this thread, it's hard to keep up with the logic.

This is where years of mis-reporting gets us.

We've all had to learn to read between the lines - rightly or wrongly - and I have to admit as soon as they acted coy about the sex of shooter I too was thinking trans.

You are probably correct - why not say though it was a trans man - I don’t get it, call a spade a spade I say . It will come out anyway.

Wikipedia is run by Trans Activists now? Gosh, I wasn't aware. So much information emerging on this thread, it's hard to keep up with the logic.

Wikipedia is run by Trans Activists now? Gosh, I wasn't aware. So much information emerging on this thread, it's hard to keep up with the logic.

The BC RCMP know who he is. And are calling him a female. It wasn't a "disguise", it was an identity.

Even if it is a man it doesn’t mean it’s a trans person - could be a man using it Asa disguise to be less noticeable around a school - I don’t think you can presume.

Even if it is a man it doesn’t mean it’s a trans person - could be a man using it Asa disguise to be less noticeable around a school - I don’t think you can presume.

Good. Please stop policing the rest of us, who can see the truth and read between the lines.

Even if it is a man it doesn’t mean it’s a trans person - could be a man using it Asa disguise to be less noticeable around a school - I don’t think you can presume.

You can use it as a source just be aware that it is run by Trans Activists so the facts are not always facts. Again, this is from the guy that invented it.

OK. How many school shootings in total do you think there have been in the US since, say, 2019? And on what source do you base that number?

I can't keep repeating myself.

We should wait for the formal identification and go from there.

Canada, especially BC, is fully captured. They will call him a woman, a female suspect, etc.

The minute they mentioned "a woman in a dress", we all knew.

The facts are not already known.

You think you know the facts based on some initial reports and social media.

Those two things are not the same.

There has been more than one occasion where everyone "knows" a killer is e.g. Muslim or an immigrant at first. Just look at the speculation regarding that stabbing in Leicester the other week.

We need to wait for formal confirmation from the Canadian authorities. Anything else is just speculation.

I imagine there is quite a crossover between incels and trans-indentified young men of the type who are straight, not the gay and naturally effeminate type. They are the losers and the loners who don't gel with people of either sex and feel rejected by everybody. They hate women because women have no interest in them, but at the same time they are fascinated by them and have the strong conviction that women have everything easier, better and fairer. Hence they decide that cosplaying a woman is the answer to their problems.

The facts are not already known.

You think you know the facts based on some initial reports and social media.

Those two things are not the same.

There has been more than one occasion where everyone "knows" a killer is e.g. Muslim or an immigrant at first. Just look at the speculation regarding that stabbing in Leicester the other week.

We need to wait for formal confirmation from the Canadian authorities. Anything else is just speculation.

The concept that children can change sex requires a huge leap of faith. Especially is they’ve been puberty blocked then placed on cross sex hormones - for boys who have started this in early puberty they’ll never have an orgasm and will be infertile.

This can only be considered an acceptable trade-off if you believe that transitioning is the correct thing to do, that the individual will be happier and function well in society.

Stories like this go against the narrative that transitioning children, without question, is the right thing to do. We do need to talk about it.

Apparently we're not supposed to use wikipedia as a source.