To be confused by 'high earners' complaining about taxes?

I am not sure PP is genuine. Seems very naïve.
Come on, like Jeff Bezos employs people because he is a charity and wants to give people a purpose.
PP on pin money for a admin job that would need a UC top up in the real world anyway. She would also be replaced in a heartbeat.

Yes, but that's not how it should work in a healthy economy - we need (and don't have) growth, growth only cones by selling someone in a different economy something, the resulting profit is then taxed in various ways, people become richer, the country becomes richer.

If its just circular, Joe buys x from Fred, government taxes Fred and Joe, eventually, you run out of other peoples money.

Our economy is largely service based, and has become somewhat circular, our tax rates are too high for service businesses to moor up here tax wise, so we miss out.

I am not sure why you are hammering down on that specific poster, OP, but most people who are from a high income household usually have their finances set up.

Will this poster lose up financially if she breaks up and her husband moves to Dubai and refuses to pay maintenance? Probably but is she likely to have at least one property of high value to sell + healthy bank accounts and other investments to take dividends from if her marriage was to break down? Also very likely.

Most people with higher finances do fine despite divorce (better than those on lower income anyway).

You know what’s unlikely? Someone earning 200k+ moving to a different country where he doesn’t have a job nor friends nor family just so he doesn’t have to pay maintenance (and never see his kids again?) when he’s been happy to pay taxes and the cost of living for his whole family in the UK so far. It’s completely illogical.

Also it’s honestly bizarre you seem to enjoy thinking about this poster’s marriage imploding? You seem massively bitter at higher earners and your thread is starting to sound more and more like « everyone should earn the same wage and anything else is unfair irrelevant of the skills required, context nor job » and less and less about the title of your thread.

My husband loves me and our DC. Whatever happens next is something we are discussing as a family. Always supported each other and the kids.

We're off to holiday soon (just the 2 of us) and we'll be having a swell time.

Life is way too short. It is not " I don't want to think about other people and their needs". Its - i work hard and I want to prioritise my own family. Not saying other people don't work hard. And i've said before, do admire people who can put 'society' ahead of their family but that's just not me. We moved to low tax country and we are able to offer our kids a better lifestyle and save properly for retirement. You only live once and I chose less stress and to be able to do more with my family. And yes, that means hiring help is easier here too.
And btw I dont know which country domestic helpers you're talking about but in Asia, they are not treated as slaves at all. Domestic helpers save more than the average person in the UK. Retire way earlier and return home and live like kings. It is again a choice they make to give their family a better life.

Maybe those care workers have a high earning DH 😉

So if everyone takes your advice and uses 'the UC or whatever' to improve their lot, who is going to be making the products, delivering the parcels and taking your Grandma to the toilet? Will we have a rota?

yes in practice, but in reality cheap labour etc

Why are you not more than mere admin at a GP surgery?

For natural monopolies such as utilities, transport, and healthcare (access/ funding) state ownership should be the first choice. For most other sectors, competition (including first to market advantages) tempered by reasonable regulation is what drives innovation and protects consumers from higher prices, reduced choice (barring beneficial standardisation) etc

At least that is what should happen in principal. In practice...

You just called someone you never met “sweetie” while speculating on how her marriage will implode and her husband go off to a 0% tax regime where he won’t have a job.

Not claiming UC and being able to manage finances are not the same. Not everyone on NNW is entitled to UC. Some will have visa restrictions that prevent entitlement. Others will have low housing costs due to house share or living with parents. Others will be part of a couple and their joint income takes them over the threshold.
None of that changes the fact that Joe pays them the lowest rate he legally can in order to live comfortably off their income.
And please don't do that thing of extrapolating from what I've said something I've not.
I haven't said I'm 'against business' at all. I've merely explained to you how the labour of the low paid makes profit for the highly paid, which is what you asked me.

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

OP, who pissed on your chips? I am afraid you are now beginning to sound spiteful which detracts from the, erm, message if you can call it that.

And when your elderly parents can’t get an NHS dentist with waiting lists of years. When your property is stolen but the police won’t investigate even though there’s cctv evidence ( that they won’t watch ) because theft happens constantly and they don’t have the resources. When there is no mental health support available for ordinary working people or homeless unless you have private healthcare. I could go on but suffice to say the state this country is in is a disgrace. Caused by the neglect of consecutive governments.
I still love this country but it’s a crying shame that the powers that be let it go to rack and ruin. The rich poor devide grows, general standard of living declines. How is that progress? I fear for the future and the young & future generations

yes and after watching billions i agree, but at the same time you and i know its not for the greater good of society all it is is wealth extraction and then leaves society as a corpse

All rational individuals seek to minimise their tax burden.

My belief is that if you're not disabled, and not caring for disabled people that you should be the driving force in improving your situation.

I don't mind UC a last resort stop gap when things are though. When life's really hit you. But use the UC and whatever to try and improve your own situation.

out of how much they avoided etc

Because there not enough of them to go round, obviously. The system is a pyramid with far more required at the base producing the product than up top.

Not sure about Jeff in particular.

Amazon say they paid nearly £6bn in 2024

www.aboutamazon.co.uk/news/company-news/amazon-economic-impact-uk-tax-contributions-investments