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To hate most men?

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Carlie97 · 10/02/2026 17:25

I'm not speaking about the whole male population, of course, but they're so pig ignorant. Sexist, bullish with disgusting habits. I'm currently sat in a cafe and a man, looks to be in his 60's is doing that deep throaty sniff in and sneezed so loud, I almost choked on my fish. Then there are the men who spit in public. Earlier I endured a man constantly sniffing on the train for half an hour. Women are like this too, but men are far worse. Enduring these men is a daily occurrence.

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Azurearransea · 10/02/2026 21:38

There are only two people I hate in this world. Both men, who I hate because of the way they abused me when I was younger.

But I can honestly say that the only men I like are my Grandsons.

The rest, particularly men of my generation, are typically controlling, arrogant, entitled, selfish, boring specimens with disgusting attitudes and habits they feel determined to inflict on women.

I can’t imagine wanting to live with any man like that and am delighted that I am independent and will never need too.

I watch my friends now, single unmarried women living fabulous lives, contrasting with those that are married and now staring into the abyss of having to care for their ‘manchild’ into old age.

I just feel sorry for women of my Mother’s generation who had no choice. I watched my Mum being beaten, sexually assaulted, deprived of money and basically treated like s..t. With no hope of escape. There was nothing I could do as a child to change that but I thank her for how wary she made me around men and how determined I have always been to provide for myself.

LondonLass61 · 10/02/2026 21:29

Vinvertebrate · 10/02/2026 20:21

Good for you, but if you’re under about 45-ish, I’d give it a few years. My theory - at age 50 - is that only hormonal influence makes men tolerable, for obvious reproductive reasons. Once that precious estrogen starts pooping out, you realise that your adored DH is actually just some massively irritating gobshite who lives in your house, scratches his balls all the time and fucking breathes too loud.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LondonLass61 · 10/02/2026 21:28

DeLaLune2022 · 10/02/2026 19:37

Yanbu. The older I get the more I realize that women are the superior species. And that men all over the world therefore try everything to keep us down.

This is so true.

LondonLass61 · 10/02/2026 21:26

YANBU.
The 60’s/70’s/80’s had some truly horrible male behaviour that was mainly overlooked. Although I’m glad that (some) bad male behaviour is now more publicised, it’s been a depressing few years with Epstein, the Orange One, men drugging their wives, rapist police officers etc etc.
I’m older now (entering my wise witch phase obvs) and I think that the next evolution of humans should involve women running everything - they do most of it now, but it should actually be recognised and encouraged.

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 10/02/2026 21:15

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 10/02/2026 18:24

Absolutely

I was on the train with my 8 year old daughter at the weekend. A group of 4 men (all looked to be in their 60’s) sat at the table next to us and 3 of them started talking about their sexual conquests on their lads holidays in previous years. How “fuckable” various women they know are. Luckily, because we were on a long trip (3hours) I’d packed her YOTO box and headphones to listen to stories. I told her she had to keep them on. Every time she lifted an ear to ask me a question, one of the men tried to engage her in conversation. Luckily she didn’t realise he was speaking to her.

The men got off after about 45 minutes. One of the men ( he had remained almost completely silent for the entire train ride) leaned over to apologise for his friends, saying he’d noticed that I tried to move seats (the train was packed) and that I’d kept telling my daughter to replace her earphones. I think he wanted me to know and be so, so grateful that “he was a good guy” but I said “it would have been much more helpful for you to ask your friends to stop speaking like that in public places in front of children than apologising to me after 45 minutes of it”

Edited

This is disgusting, exposing children to sexual activity. I like to think that’s how I’d approach them about it and that I’d call the police, but can’t say for sure what I’d really do in a real life situation.

123123again · 10/02/2026 21:11

Yanbu
They are literally a different species.
I have many that are decent lovely people but they still don’t truly get why.

canuckup · 10/02/2026 21:08

BillieWiper · 10/02/2026 20:11

An elderly man I just met felt up both my upper thighs in a taxi, I said 'oi, stop touching me up!?' and he pretending he was 'looking for his bag'. His wife was sitting behind us. This was only a couple of days ago. Utterly grim.

Less bad but still grim is my male friend who always has a smokers cough but never even attempts to cover his mouth when he does it. Even when I tell him to. He gave me such a foul 'cold' last winter Xmas was basically cancelled and I had sinus infections for 6 months.

So yeah, some aspects of them and some specimens of them are pretty fucking awful. But not all. Some are pretty good. Great even. But nobody is perfect. Man or woman.

I'm sorry but what

Feeling your thighs?? Looking for his bag?!

Thegrassroots26 · 10/02/2026 21:06

Probably get flamed for saying it, but hard agree. So so few decent sorts of men out there. I worry for the boys growing up now with the awful stuff online etc and what sort of men it shapes them to be. Surely it can only get worse!

DeLaLune2022 · 10/02/2026 21:04

Vinvertebrate · 10/02/2026 20:21

Good for you, but if you’re under about 45-ish, I’d give it a few years. My theory - at age 50 - is that only hormonal influence makes men tolerable, for obvious reproductive reasons. Once that precious estrogen starts pooping out, you realise that your adored DH is actually just some massively irritating gobshite who lives in your house, scratches his balls all the time and fucking breathes too loud.

This is so true 😆

ImPamDoove · 10/02/2026 20:24

I was in a queue in Waterstones yesterday and the man in front of me was repeatedly blowing his nose like a TRUMPET into a <shudder> handkerchief.

I’ll admit I fantasised about shooting him, and I also thought women simply never do this.

Vinvertebrate · 10/02/2026 20:21

Upstartled · 10/02/2026 17:39

Same. I've had the good fortune to have mostly known lovely men. Sniffing on the train wouldn't hit my threshold for annoyance though so 🤷🏼‍♀️

Good for you, but if you’re under about 45-ish, I’d give it a few years. My theory - at age 50 - is that only hormonal influence makes men tolerable, for obvious reproductive reasons. Once that precious estrogen starts pooping out, you realise that your adored DH is actually just some massively irritating gobshite who lives in your house, scratches his balls all the time and fucking breathes too loud.

BillieWiper · 10/02/2026 20:11

An elderly man I just met felt up both my upper thighs in a taxi, I said 'oi, stop touching me up!?' and he pretending he was 'looking for his bag'. His wife was sitting behind us. This was only a couple of days ago. Utterly grim.

Less bad but still grim is my male friend who always has a smokers cough but never even attempts to cover his mouth when he does it. Even when I tell him to. He gave me such a foul 'cold' last winter Xmas was basically cancelled and I had sinus infections for 6 months.

So yeah, some aspects of them and some specimens of them are pretty fucking awful. But not all. Some are pretty good. Great even. But nobody is perfect. Man or woman.

beadystar · 10/02/2026 20:03

Playingvideogames · 10/02/2026 17:41

YANBU. They’re absolutely vile. Yesterday I was walking to the shop and the bloke in front of me was morbidly obese and wearing jeans that had ripped across the arse - completely, not just a small hole - exposing his boxer shorts and crack. It was utterly disgusting, he clearly just didn’t give a shit.

Was in the supermarket on Sunday and a man at the self-checkouts had his whole bum out of his manky jeans. Nearly all of it, he couldn’t have not known. I’m sick of them too.

BooseysMom · 10/02/2026 19:51

Carlie97 · 10/02/2026 17:44

That is DISGUSTING!!! Honestly, my (male) pets have more decorum. They're quite classy actually.

I remembered another thing a shit load of men do. Eat with their mouths open and make horrendous noises.

Yes this! My DH does this.. he makes disgusting eating noises and I just stare at him but it makes me want to throw my dinner at him 😆

Terip · 10/02/2026 19:48

Yep, a lot of men are vile - boorish, boring, pompous, fatuous, rude, entitled, with fragile egos, and disgusting habits.

Likewise, a lot of women are absolutely shite. I mean total drainers, who contribute nothing to the party - total energy vampires, nothing interesting to say about anything, do nothing of note or interest. Just exist.

Some people are just rubbish. In fact most people are. I’m probably a bit rubbish. Very few people are good looking, charismatic, interesting, of either sex.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 10/02/2026 19:46

And somewhere on another forum men are insulting women in a similar style. Not all men/ women are disgusting

MarshaGeePeanutduckNsoul · 10/02/2026 19:44

Carlie97 · 10/02/2026 17:25

I'm not speaking about the whole male population, of course, but they're so pig ignorant. Sexist, bullish with disgusting habits. I'm currently sat in a cafe and a man, looks to be in his 60's is doing that deep throaty sniff in and sneezed so loud, I almost choked on my fish. Then there are the men who spit in public. Earlier I endured a man constantly sniffing on the train for half an hour. Women are like this too, but men are far worse. Enduring these men is a daily occurrence.

It's not often I say it as normally no need ,I'm male and what you've described also makes my stomach flip.
I've told men hacking ,spitting etc to fucking pack it in.

ohfourfoxache · 10/02/2026 19:43

One of the highlights of COVID was these random arseholes getting too close, as per a previous poster - assuming I’d get out of the way

I’d let them, then cough

My personal best was the man who nearly tripped over the freezers to get away

DeLaLune2022 · 10/02/2026 19:37

Yanbu. The older I get the more I realize that women are the superior species. And that men all over the world therefore try everything to keep us down.

forcedtonamechange · 10/02/2026 19:36

Yanbu!

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Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 10/02/2026 18:24

Absolutely

I was on the train with my 8 year old daughter at the weekend. A group of 4 men (all looked to be in their 60’s) sat at the table next to us and 3 of them started talking about their sexual conquests on their lads holidays in previous years. How “fuckable” various women they know are. Luckily, because we were on a long trip (3hours) I’d packed her YOTO box and headphones to listen to stories. I told her she had to keep them on. Every time she lifted an ear to ask me a question, one of the men tried to engage her in conversation. Luckily she didn’t realise he was speaking to her.

The men got off after about 45 minutes. One of the men ( he had remained almost completely silent for the entire train ride) leaned over to apologise for his friends, saying he’d noticed that I tried to move seats (the train was packed) and that I’d kept telling my daughter to replace her earphones. I think he wanted me to know and be so, so grateful that “he was a good guy” but I said “it would have been much more helpful for you to ask your friends to stop speaking like that in public places in front of children than apologising to me after 45 minutes of it”

EstherGreenwood63 · 10/02/2026 18:14

YANBU. Most aren't up to much when you scratch the surface. If DH died or left me I would never live with another man. No ta.

Redhairandhottubs · 10/02/2026 18:11

Carlie97 · 10/02/2026 17:45

I actually long for a female partner but wouldn't want intimacy apart from kissing. More for the love and companionship. Is that weird?

Don’t knock it til you’ve tried it! 🤣

shivermetimbers77 · 10/02/2026 18:10

YABU .

pinenuts75 · 10/02/2026 18:08

Tonissister · 10/02/2026 17:58

YABVVU. You don't know most men. Don't hate an unknown sector of society. That's what racists and misogynists do. They think refugees stole our jobs and women are all after one thing: a man's wallet, so we can lounge around. It's nonsense. Just as it is nonsense to assume all men are seedy and abusive. The ones who are become newsworthy. But there are many men out there quietly getting on with life, kind to their kids, their partners, their neighbours and friends, contributing in the community, paying their taxes, mowing their lawns etc.

On balance, I know more good men than bad.

The first line of the sentence says I’m not speaking about the whole male population.