To hate most men?

I personally have to agree. Most men in my life have let me down one way or another.

The most disappointing thing in my life has been my relationships with men and I include my brother and father in that.

In my 40s and been married 20 years (I deserve a medal!) but when I see so many women my age separate from their DH, it always baffles me how quickly they move onto a new man. Most of them (in my view) are no oil painting/have no captivating qualities. I kind of understand the not wanting to be lonely for the rest of your life/holding out for that ‘soul mate’ but quite honestly, I’d much prefer my own company and not put up with a grumpy old fart with revolting bad habits…

I agree!

It's not every man.

But it's almost every man!

The sexism and misogyny is always, always there. Not too far beneath the surface.

Or even just breathes….😂

I have a husband who I love, but if I was ever to find myself single in my future I cannot imagine for the life of me ever wanting to go out dating again or find another man to be with. On the whole, they are are pretty grim with so many dirty and disgusting habits. And usually really, really messy and lazy too. No thank you.

Watching the news Trump, Epstein files. reports of male violence and abuse of children, seeing men talk over women (as so often happens) when discussing Epstein files

this has all been in the news in the last few days and just reinforces my opinion that few men are decent

and yes well aware one woman, was very much involved with Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell but it’s only one person in prison when many many men should be

I don’t think I hate most men, I hate the culture of men being taught that it’s acceptable to behave poorly. The bar is set lower for men on appearance, hygiene, behaviour towards others etc.

Yep. It's gross right. 🤢🤢

Thank you very much for this. Says it all

Eh, something literally clicked when I turned 42 and that's it. I can never get back to previous mindset (about men and other stuff).

This…
Margaret Atwood’s famous, witty quote regarding menopause is: “Menopause. A pause while you reconsider men”. This line, which appears in her work Wilderness Tips, acts as a clever wordplay, framing the transition as a moment for women to reassess their lives, relationships, and societal roles.

This is why our eyes open in our 50s.

And what is with men and explosive sneezing? So many times I've been made to jump out of my skin on the bus or in a coffee shop because of some bloke sneezing at 110 decibels. When I, and the vast majority of women I know sneeze it barely registers on the decibel scale!

This made me 😂

What other group are responsible for 98% of sex crimes?

Yanbu. Publically they act appallingly. Spitting and hawking, man spreading, ignorant walking, angry aggressive driving, leering, pissing in the street, and on and on and on. Privately (we but need to read thread where and glance at the Epstein files) it seems they are often even worse. The best men are just mediocre women imo. When we judge a good man he is- kind, clean, funny, has a job, is thoughtful, good with his kids etc- ALL of my female friends meet this kind of criteria with ease and most exceed it.

my husband manages 50 men in a factory environment. Every week is a disgusting montage of horrific stories. Shit/snot/vomit/semen smeared up walls, wanking, discussing racist/misanthropic talk on workshop floor it is non stop. My husband hates men as a class and is surprised by nothing. He's ok. Just.

Its exhausting when you reach 50 and it's 2026 and everything is worse not better.

Agree 👍 💯 %

The men in our family are lovely. No machismo, totally equal as parents, see domestic work as just part of the daily grind (not women’s work per se), supportive, emotionally intelligent etc But this makes me vote YANBU because when you look around and see what utter twats other men are you just have no patience for it. Or women who enable it I’m afraid.

Imagine saying this about literally any other group. Even with the mandatory "I'm not talking about all...." (try women/black people/ gay people, etc), then you will realise how utterly vile and bigoted you sound. Yes, YABU and demented to hate 'all men' and to gripe so casually about it on MN as though you expect praise for this viewpoint. Which you will get, of course, because that's the culture we live in.

I'd rather be stuck in a lift with a randomly assorted man than op who sounds wretched

I do this and I’m a woman. Sorry - allergies etc.

I’ve just come back from a late evening swim at the leisure centre. Two women in the next lane were complaining that they couldn’t get in the sauna because of all the letchy old men in there. One had white football shorts and nothing underneath 🤮

So very very true. It's took 'til my 50's for this realisation to fully develop.

They’re also very petty and thin skinned. The bloke opposite walks his DS to the same school as I walk DD. He is a really slow walker, not usually a problem getting stuck behind him (it’s a long walk down a narrow pavement next to a main road) but one time we were in a rush so I said ‘excuse me’ and edged past him.

Ever since that day (I’m not joking or imagining it!) whenever I happen to be walking in front of him he will virtually sprint to get ahead of me, and look back to make sure I’ve seen. He even ran out into the road to get ahead of me before I reached a crossing and almost got run over. He was clearly so offended I dared to walk faster than him that now he has to prove it is he who in fact walks faster than me, every single time.