Nigel Farage calls for an end to working from home

Difficult situations arise further down the road and that is understandable. Except many have kids with no plan of how they will manage I.e no provisions and long-term strategy. These are the people I refer to. Benefits will be cut so my tip is to sort out your life now and be resilient or step up your budgeting as skills.

The benefits you have listed are nothing special. A lot of people couldn’t care less about a gym membership and would probably never use the private health cover. Pension contribution from the employer needs to be at least 10% to be considered good. I suppose you give them free pizza once a month too?

I would rather have flexible working than any of those things you have listed. It is not ‘lazy’ to not want to work in an office full time. If I see a job advertised as wanting someone in the office full time (when the job doesn’t require it) I assume it’s a terrible employer to work for, with micromanagement who don’t trust their staff to behave like adults.

Maybe I have realised it is necessary to minimise hirings and when hiring choose wisely and have robust fair to all procedures in place.

My first job in IT mid 90s was for a company whose core IT talent were a husband and wife team with kids who worked from home.

I am glad you appreciate your staff, although odd that you were slagging them off earlier.

Worked on phones in the office yesterday - so was everyone around me - unless they were going in/out of meeting rooms. It is distracting and I work at this job much better at home and it is better for the customers - it’s even easier to ask a quick question on teams than look around, wonder if someone is too busy, try catch their eye, whisper a query etc. And don’t worry my call times, toilet times, wrap times are monitored in and out of the office. I actually feel more able to move away from the phone in the office as at least people can see I’m ‘at work’ - as per ‘presenteeism’.
Previously in a public authority role certain HR stuff could only really be done at home as chances of finding an empty room were next to zero and some laptop work was difficult as in always having to hide the screen if people came up to you. Equally, some was better in the office to have 1:1s, training, just get the lay of the working land - hybrid worked well for me there. But there’s the thing - for me, in my role - it’s very personal and role specific but I don’t see that as a major problem at all to anyone - better for all to utilise best options for best work as far as possible.
Apart from very initial lockdown I haven’t known anyone working long term at home and caring for their young kids - it’s not viable or usually even permissible, and if folk try they’ll likely fail and it will be stopped. It can easily be managed.
A lot of those upset by all wfh will be equally upset by people sitting in ‘nice, warm offices with drinks on tap’ or whatever the media suggests they may be getting that you’re not I guess!
I will repeat, as it can’t be said too often, that it’s risible that this is suggested by Frogface, who doesn’t know how to turn up at work himself.

Qui bono. Who benefits. Landlords of office buildings and energy/water/essentials-for-profit companies (literally “keeping the lights on”). This is 100% based on what Farage’s paying customers (“sponsors”) want as Reform UK is a business after all - workers in the office so they can make more money off their backs.

What on earth would you know about running a business?
Do you own your own business ?
IO guess you are WFH now as you are on a sm site but cannot see the contradiction LOL
My staff are actually wonderful
Most have been with us 5 years plus and are paid well above the norm
They are happy to work in the office as they are not lazy or entitled and are well looked after with 7%company pension contribution
Private health
Fully paid for gym membership

What a wally. I’ve been working from home for 20 years. 😂 Dh is self-employed and doesn’t have an office, only on site at commercial premises once a week because he’d otherwise be in their way hovering around instead of in his home office.

Sounds like silly advice from some numpty who probably works a lot from home, but like being against immigration but having an immigrant partner. 🙄 Always an exception for himself because he’s not one of the peasants.

I was going to vote YANBU until I read “I can only think it appeals to the "pull the ladder up" generation. Don't give two fucks about anyone else as long as they are comfortable or those that are unable to wfh and want everyone else to be as miserable as them.”

I am a couple of years older than Farage and I’m unclear if I’m being asked to agree that I’m selfish and don’t give two fucks about others or if I’m being asked to agree that WFH is preferable for many people for good reason.

Farage is imv a chancer. Many people of differing ages are thinking of voting for him.

I've known a few business owners who whine incessantly that they can' fill a vacancy that pays fuck all with an OxBridge doctorate toting family-free person with 20 years experience.

They would all agree "Britain is broken"

Perhaps you need to overhaul your recruitment process if the calibre of your staff is so poor?

Reform's campaign slogan: "you can't claim benefits if you've starved to death!"

If you are not the manager, then it's not up to you what adjustments need to be made and what you need to do to accommodate them. You are free to make your case to your manager, just as the person who has requested wfh has done. Managers should make the decision based on what is best for their workplace.

You don't get to decide what's best for every workplace and, to be frank, if your moaning about it, it's clear you don't rank high enough to make decisions about your own workplace either.

Everyone else can do as they please. I was speaking from my perspective.

Because otherwise those people are unable to work and end up increasing the benefits budget.

I guess another approach is to get rid of benefits.Then we don't have to worry about the feckless jobless losers out there.

Because otherwise those people are unable to work and end up increasing the benefits budget. Or perhaps there should be more childcare support by employers.

But as every business owner knows: "It's not all about me".

Why should other staff have to adjust their timetable and not have teams meetings mid afternoon because parents are picking up kids. It is all take by some parents. They think their needs trump the need of everyone else. This also reflects badly on parents who are not selfish and organise childminders and do not impose on others.

It is much rarer to hear of a single mid 30s employee demanding everyone fits around them.

You say it is a management problem and yes you are correct. But management are waking up and not allowing it anymore.

Everyone says that before they go to the gym or do a school run LOL

We have our own business
WFH not allowed
Got pd off with waiting hours for someone to reply to an urgent email
Ringing to be told
"just popped out for 5 mins"
"Just had to pick johnny up from school"
Getting replies at 9 pm because someone has been looking after their kids all day

It’s jealousy. And Farage is trying to cause division between different groups of people to earn votes.

As I said earlier in this thread, if wfh is detrimental to other staff because the required work isn't being completed, then that is a management failure. If, as I rather suspect is more common, it is detrimental to other staff because they are jealous/don't want to adjust their working practices then that's their own problem.

I am old enought to remember smoke breaks and extended Friday pub lunches.

So anecdata.