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Would you say this is wrong of care company

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Meandmrmen · 08/02/2026 22:20

Support worker and service user had an argument due to a comment made by the support worker. The service users door had been broken by police due to a possible welfare concern. This had the not been fixed for a few days and the support worker said maybe it was because the hotel were “tried of it it. Which then in turn caused an argument. The support worker then choose not to tie up for the shift the next day. The service users lost money due to having things booked and having to pay for transport to a supermarket meanwhile despite being the instigator the support worker got full pay.

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Stompythedinosaur · 09/02/2026 08:45

It sounds like six of one, a half dozen of the other.

I don't think the support worker's comment was that unreasonable, though it maybe could have been phrased more gently.

Op, maybe try to relax your expectations and remember the sw is also a person with feelings. Being 15 mins late when they moved their time slot to accommodate you is not such a big deal.

It sounds like the relationship is tense and your expectations don't entirely match what is being offered. If carers are employed on a zero hours basis, then they are able to cancel shifts, and haven't done anything wrong by doing so. They aren't "leaving you vulnerable" by exercising their employment rights, it sounds like you have an unreasonable expectation of control here, and I wonder if that's what is making the relationship so difficult.

Jellycatspyjamas · 09/02/2026 08:38

If the support worker is on a zero hours contract they won’t be paid if they don’t work. The care company shouldn’t be discussing with you whether their staff got paid or not - that’s between employer/employee.

To complain someone was 15 minutes late when you delayed their attendance by two hours is utterly unreasonable - care visits are scheduled across a range of service users, she had to rearrange her diary to fit you in at a later time, may have had someone else she needed to see, an urgent visit to fit in or got held up.

In terms of the initial incident, if they needed to get in so quickly there was no time to get the key from the hotel, they must have had reason to be very concerned for you. It’s really not normal for kicking down a door to be the first course of action where a less destructive means of access is possible.

purpleme12 · 09/02/2026 08:23

Logoplanter · 09/02/2026 08:20

It sounds like the relationship between the service user and the support worker has broken down. It's probably best if they don't work together moving forward.

The service user's contact is with the care company, not the individual. It's not any of the service users business what the care company does by way of payment (or not) to the support worker. I'm surprised the service user would think they had a say in this. That's like saying if I get poor service from a shop employee I have a say in whether they get paid/fired/given training on the issue.

Agree with this post

Logoplanter · 09/02/2026 08:20

It sounds like the relationship between the service user and the support worker has broken down. It's probably best if they don't work together moving forward.

The service user's contact is with the care company, not the individual. It's not any of the service users business what the care company does by way of payment (or not) to the support worker. I'm surprised the service user would think they had a say in this. That's like saying if I get poor service from a shop employee I have a say in whether they get paid/fired/given training on the issue.

PersephoneGoddessOfSpring · 09/02/2026 07:23

Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 03:48

She had already annoyed me that day I had said to her she could come two hours later as I was sorting out uni work. So she then has the cheek to turn up an extra 15 minutes after that no apology was given or warning she intended to be late. I had contacted the office and she then got off the phone to the office and was laughing that they called her so yeah not as much of a victim as she may appear

So you asked her to come 2 hours later than she should and she arrived 2 hours and fifteen minutes later? Are you aware you won't be the only person she visits in a day?

Sparklybutold · 09/02/2026 04:23

Just read through so you are the service user. There has obviously been a complete breakdown in relationship, which happens. I also know that this will take its toll on you as you obviously need the support for a reason. Do you have a good relationship with the care company? You can make an official complaint if you wish to do so, there will be process for this. But they’ll also be process for the support worker, which includes whether she’ll be paid or not. In this scenario, whether she gets paid or not is irrelevant to your situation. Unless you feel angry and want her to get punished? If so - make an official complaint.

Sparklybutold · 09/02/2026 04:13

Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 01:46

It’s due to risk to self it’s not a behavioural issue. The police wanted to check on the person not punish them

I wasn’t suggesting the police were there to punish. But something is going wrong if they are being called multiple times to the extent of breaking the service users door to check they are ok. Of course this is not to say that this is because of the service user - but something in the care plan isn’t working.

FrozenFebruary · 09/02/2026 03:49

Tryingtokeepgoing · 09/02/2026 02:52

Care companies seem to get a lot of bad press for treating workers badly, so I think we should applaud one that’s willing to support its staff by paying them in the circumstances described. No one should have to work in an abusive environment.

Abusive ?

FrozenFebruary · 09/02/2026 03:48

Bobbie12345678 · 09/02/2026 02:37

I think you sound argumentative. That is obviously your right, but you cannot then be surprised if people don’t want to work with you. Support workers really don’t get paid enough to deal with arguments.
If you want to be sure to get to the things that are important to you, then make sure your support worker feels appreciated and valued when they are with you.
Your life will be easier.
Or you can be unpleasant and accept the consequences.

Or the 'support worker' can not act like a dick & say stupid stuff that upsets the client.

Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 03:48

She had already annoyed me that day I had said to her she could come two hours later as I was sorting out uni work. So she then has the cheek to turn up an extra 15 minutes after that no apology was given or warning she intended to be late. I had contacted the office and she then got off the phone to the office and was laughing that they called her so yeah not as much of a victim as she may appear

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FrozenFebruary · 09/02/2026 03:45

plentyofsunshine · 09/02/2026 00:14

Does the service user get everything for free but still moan and complain every chance they get?

There are some vile comments on this thread

FrozenFebruary · 09/02/2026 03:40

HeddaGarbled · 09/02/2026 00:13

Oh well, support workers have feelings too.

Unlike the service user they weren't very nice to?

Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 03:38

Tryingtokeepgoing · 09/02/2026 02:52

Care companies seem to get a lot of bad press for treating workers badly, so I think we should applaud one that’s willing to support its staff by paying them in the circumstances described. No one should have to work in an abusive environment.

Where has you joked to the conclusion she was abused

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Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 03:38

Shrinkhole · 09/02/2026 03:06

It is not your business whether an individual worker got paid. They will have done in line with their sickness policy.

It is your business that the agreed support was not available to you. The appropriate response is to take that up with the care company and/ or read their contract/ T&Cs to understand what their obligations are in terms of worker sickness.

If you are unhappy with the service then complain to the care company using their official procedures and/or ask whoever is commissioning and paying for the care package to review it.

Most people would find it remarkable (as in worthy of comment) if you do repeatedly behave in a manner that causes the police to need to break down doors. I hope that you are working on your MH in therapy eg DBT.

This time it wasn’t my fault my one of my housemates had reported a welfare concern to the police as the hadn’t seen me as I was staying at my mums. The door has only been kicked in one other time. Yes they can get keys from the hotel but the hotel has house split so it’s not in the main building so if they want to get in quick they kick the door

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Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 03:35

Bobbie12345678 · 09/02/2026 02:37

I think you sound argumentative. That is obviously your right, but you cannot then be surprised if people don’t want to work with you. Support workers really don’t get paid enough to deal with arguments.
If you want to be sure to get to the things that are important to you, then make sure your support worker feels appreciated and valued when they are with you.
Your life will be easier.
Or you can be unpleasant and accept the consequences.

She instigated it. The manager of the company even said we were both at fault which I was happy to accept but would should I be the only one that loses out thus she has no consequences for her actions yet I do

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Shrinkhole · 09/02/2026 03:06

It is not your business whether an individual worker got paid. They will have done in line with their sickness policy.

It is your business that the agreed support was not available to you. The appropriate response is to take that up with the care company and/ or read their contract/ T&Cs to understand what their obligations are in terms of worker sickness.

If you are unhappy with the service then complain to the care company using their official procedures and/or ask whoever is commissioning and paying for the care package to review it.

Most people would find it remarkable (as in worthy of comment) if you do repeatedly behave in a manner that causes the police to need to break down doors. I hope that you are working on your MH in therapy eg DBT.

steff13 · 09/02/2026 03:03

Meandmrmen · 08/02/2026 22:29

Temp housing in a hotel

Did the hotel staff not have a key to the room? Why did the police have to break down the door?

If the hotel was "tired of it," does that mean it's happened before?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 09/02/2026 02:52

Care companies seem to get a lot of bad press for treating workers badly, so I think we should applaud one that’s willing to support its staff by paying them in the circumstances described. No one should have to work in an abusive environment.

Marrietothejob · 09/02/2026 02:46

If it wass hotel OP the staff should have keys to let in police. I imagine you barricaded the door?

Bobbie12345678 · 09/02/2026 02:37

I think you sound argumentative. That is obviously your right, but you cannot then be surprised if people don’t want to work with you. Support workers really don’t get paid enough to deal with arguments.
If you want to be sure to get to the things that are important to you, then make sure your support worker feels appreciated and valued when they are with you.
Your life will be easier.
Or you can be unpleasant and accept the consequences.

Cookingupmyfirstbornson · 09/02/2026 01:48

You post all the time about how you don't have bpd when you so evidently do OP. Stop falling out with everyone and stop calling ambulances several times a week.

Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 01:46

Sparklybutold · 09/02/2026 00:13

Ime sw are left dealing with clients who far exceed what the sw is able to provide, this is before burnout. From what you’ve said though there does seem to be some evidence of challenging behaviours that need some degree of consequences, such as having to wait for repair or a person deciding not to work with someone because the relationship has broken down. Zero contracts often means minimal, next to no training obligations on the service provider which means ultimately both client and sw suffer. Many sw earn so little for what the stress of the job entails - I know many who have left owing to the stress far outweighing the pay. However, you also talk about the damage to the door occurring because of a MH check? Things have obviously escalated and I’m guessing from what you’ve said this has happened before? Which suggests the care plan needs to be looked at and adapted to ensure it suits the needs of the client?

It’s due to risk to self it’s not a behavioural issue. The police wanted to check on the person not punish them

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Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 01:45

plentyofsunshine · 09/02/2026 00:14

Does the service user get everything for free but still moan and complain every chance they get?

Are you missing the point where the person had tickets for an activity and had to pay for an uber to the supermarket as unable to use public transportation

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Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 01:44

JockTamsonsBairns · 09/02/2026 00:17

Who told you the SW got paid?

Care company

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Meandmrmen · 09/02/2026 01:43

HeddaGarbled · 09/02/2026 00:13

Oh well, support workers have feelings too.

Yes but to provoke a situation then play the victim is annoying. Would she have refused to work with no pay if she know she wouldn’t be paid to sit at home I doubt it . It’s government money at the end of the day if you don’t wor why should the company act like they have provided a service they didn’t.

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