Taylor Swift

Don't agree with the let someone else have a turn. Going to say that to Lewis Hamilton are you?

She's not perfect and I don't agree with everything she does at all. However travis' ex has also come for her so although I think the back and forth is petty I don't think it's one sided from Taylor.

Personally I loved TTPD and although showgirl is not my fav I'd say I listen to over half the songs. The funny thing is say if you like ed sheeran does that mean you have to like everyone of his albums? Of course not. Not everything is going to be for you and that's fine.

On another note maybe I am slightly biased because I have met and worked with her for nearly a week and I can tell you literally noone has a bad word to say about her who she works with and I honestly get why. She was incredibly kind and not diva at all. Her mum is also so sweet.

I think just take what is good for you and leave the rest. People still show up to see Chris brown
Which I think is wrong but if Taylor has done something that you can't morally support then don't listen to her music 🤷🏻‍♀️

I find it an odd thing to say let someone else has a turn. Thats not how it works. It’s up to the public whose music they buy. If fans are happy to buy it, let them.

As Taylor said, there is a different vocabulary for men and women, men strategic, women are calculated.

Who gets to the top of their game, with years of life ahead of them, plenty left to offer, can make more money and continue doing what they enjoy, and thinks ‘I know, I need to let someone else have a turn’. 🤪

But @SirQuintus it's always Taylor Swift! Well nearly always. She receives more vitriol on Mumsnet than ANYone. It's bizarre!

Why is she so disliked on here (by some?) A thread bashing her pops up every other week. I don't get it. Genuinely I don't.

It's human nature. There is no one person who everyone will like or even agree is attractive. It must be hell to be in the public eye because you can look exceptionally beautiful to some but there will be those who say you are too fat, too thin, bad teeth, wide nose, hairy arms, horrible feat, repulsive voice and so on.

People have varying opinions and lots of people enjoy attacking and criticising others. Internet trolls abound as well.It's just life sadly.

Exactly this. ^

Have to say though. I don't see such vitriol (on here) aimed at any man in music... Or any man at all who is famous actually! Then again, not many women seem to get as much negativity on here as Taylor Swift!

It seems to bother some people that a beautiful, privileged, middle class woman is very successful and hugely popular... No-one in the world of celebrity at the moment seems to receive such negative comments on here. I don't know why Taylor Swift does. It's really strange. She is a really nice, inoffensive, harmless, genuine, friendly kind of person, yet the hatred for her (from some) is fierce.

What on earth does 'everything is calculated' even mean? I can only surmise that poster means clever, smart, savvy, and talented. Coz that's what Taylor Swift is. She is a very smart businesswoman, as well as being talented, beautiful, and hardworking.

Why is she so disliked on here (by some?) A thread bashing her pops up every other week. I don't get it. Genuinely I don't.

But why do you WANT to? Why do you WANT to say anything against her?

This not you then?

Oh she's in control! The wedding sounds like it's going to be huge on another scale. Disney documentary? You bet!

I don't think her fans engaging in discussions on threads like these means you "can't say anything whatsoever". If someone disagrees with you, that's an opinion same as yours.

I don't think that's fair. One can agree that it's gross to continually release album variants all year round yet disagree with those saying that she's not very talented, too old to write breakup songs and "looks weird".

She won't do a wedding documentary. She's not a Love Island or Real Housewives reality TV star.

I've been a swiftie for ages, and Showgirl is pretty low down in my rankings of her albums, but I think this thread feels a bit much. If you feel like her music isn't for you anymore then just move on.

The new music video is fun and charming, and if some fans are taking it upon themselves to hate on her/Travis' exes then that's on them. Could she call them off? Yes. But that isn't always the right action as it can validate these rabid fans by acknowledging their bad behaviour.

And with regards to the Blake Lively situation, if my best friend has told me all about the man who sexually assaulted her at the work place then I don't my texts about him would be as mild as Taylor's were. They were mean, but who can blame her in that situation.

I think she now (for the last five or six years) averages about one very good per album, with none of them matching the exceptional quality of much of her early work, but you know what, I can't think of many popular musicians who've continued to consistently produce exceptional work over two decades, so I'm not going to hold it against her.

What’s happened? What texts?

Just had a wee chat with myself as recommended.

Spielberg, Scorsese et al don’t release dozens of cuts of one film, King doesn’t release the same book with dozens of covers, Streep doesn’t have several versions of a film where she’ll play someone slightly differently.

I thought there was a great atmosphere when she played in my city a few summers ago, the fans were so excited and it was lovely to see but the online Swifties scare me so I’m not going to engage further in this thread.

https://youtube.com/shorts/h1ceZQiYEgk?si=BqUe1irmG2Bek65I

"Let someone else have a turn".... Do you say the same about all successful creatives? FFS Martin Scorsese and Steven Spielberg you have enough Oscars why are you still directing. And as for Steven King, he really should just shuffle away and burn his typewriter. Meryl Streep.better never act in another film...greedy bitch.

Someone who is a brilliant business women = "calculated". Have a word with yourself.

I like her a lot and went to the Eras tour but she peaked twice for me - Red and Folklore/Evermore. I hate Showgirl.

I’d love her to just let someone else have a turn, stop releasing multiple versions of albums that clog up the charts and rinse your fans.

Everything feels so calculated with her. She’s an ok singer, musician, good song writer, there are many much stronger but she had the money behind her to make her as successful as she has become.

Children stop fighting 🙄

Taytay jumped the shark IMO when she announced something like “your English teacher and gym teacher are getting married” - there was so much implied in that sentence.

Of course she won't document her wedding. We'll get a few photos after the event.

There's a world of difference between a collosal world tour and a personal event.

Are you the monster on the hill?

I don't think you know what "triggered" means

Yeah - We had stew

Re the thread: Could have been anything
Taylor Swift confirmed to be an alien
Taylor Swift won an oscar
Taylor Swift is retiring
Taylor Swift will be on Celebrity Bake Off
Taylor Swift has 12 secret children
Taylor Swift has split with Travis and is going to marry Prince William when his divorce from Kate comes through
Taylor Swift wears a dress
Taylor Swift cuts her hair