Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

Taylor Swift

180 replies

Nezukokamado · 08/02/2026 21:46

Was anyone a fan but now is a bit....done?

I was, of her music, didn't really follow her much (her personal life)

But after her shitty album, the texts made public in the BL/JB controversy and now the Opalite video yet AGAIN making digs at her fiances ex, who is now getting bullied online...I just think I see her for who she is and I can't separate the music from the artist

I think I may be a retired 'swiftie'

She's nearing 40 for god's sake....it's all very mean girl

OP posts:
Rituelec · 09/02/2026 19:14

CandiedPrincess · 09/02/2026 18:35

I bloody love the new album. It took about a weekend to grow on me but it's never been off since. Totally different vibe to TTPD which I also loved but then most of her albums are different to the next. Can't please all of the people all of the time.

I also love the new one

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:13

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/02/2026 18:47

She wants everyone to slag her off. There’s a difference.

Show quote history

100% this. ^ Most people aren't doing it though. Wink

Jbum · 09/02/2026 19:12

I don't say you cant write a song about your ex, fine after a break up whatever but if are in a happy long term relationship about to get married why continue to do it. Your happy. If my partner kept banging on about his exs and we are together planning a wedding id be thinking wtf

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:11

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:24

wtf

Show quote history

'wtf' isn't an answer. WHY do you want to say anything against Taylor Swift/anything negative about her?

Why does she bother you so much?

.

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:10

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:03

Olivia Rodrigo
Fleetwood Mac
Beyonce
Lily Allen
Justin Timberlake
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
....
....
I could probably go on forever ...... All of these bands and artists have written songs about ex's.

Adele too. Amy Winehouse. And probably 100s more!

Jbum · 09/02/2026 19:09

Quickchangeartist · 09/02/2026 18:37

But then we also have Adele re-hashing break up after break up. Her dig was at her son’s father.

Show quote history

Just as bad and I dont listen to Adele

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:09

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:22

She’s the biggest pop star on the planet!!!!

Show quote history

And?

Ninerainbows · 09/02/2026 19:05

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:55

Do you not know what she did to Olivia?!

Show quote history

She shouldn't have nicked Cruel Summer and only given Taylor credit post release. Whoops.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:03

Olivia Rodrigo
Fleetwood Mac
Beyonce
Lily Allen
Justin Timberlake
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
....
....
I could probably go on forever ...... All of these bands and artists have written songs about ex's.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 18:55

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 17:10

Me too, that's why I have bowed out. You can't say anything against her whatsoever. No point in trying to discuss anything!

Show quote history

You're not trying to discuss anything. If you aren't happy to hear people who disagree with you...it's not a discussion. What you're looking for a pile on. You are allowed to say she's a terrible artist and a terrible human being and I'm allowed to say that she's a talented artist and seems like a decent human being. YOU are not being attacked.

Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:55

HermioneWeasley · 09/02/2026 18:54

The comment about “let others have a turn” - she had massively amplified young female acts: Sabrina carpenter, Gracie Abram’s, Olivia what’s her face and paramooe all got huge boosts from her collaborations and touring with her.

Do you not know what she did to Olivia?!

OP posts:
HermioneWeasley · 09/02/2026 18:54

The comment about “let others have a turn” - she had massively amplified young female acts: Sabrina carpenter, Gracie Abram’s, Olivia what’s her face and paramooe all got huge boosts from her collaborations and touring with her.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 18:52

EverythingIsComputer · 09/02/2026 17:03

Just had a wee chat with myself as recommended.

Spielberg, Scorsese et al don’t release dozens of cuts of one film, King doesn’t release the same book with dozens of covers, Streep doesn’t have several versions of a film where she’ll play someone slightly differently.

I thought there was a great atmosphere when she played in my city a few summers ago, the fans were so excited and it was lovely to see but the online Swifties scare me so I’m not going to engage further in this thread.

She's not forcing anyone to anything. I wouldn't call myself a swiftie - I can admire her work and work ethic whilst also not being in an imaginary fan club because I'm a middle aged woman.

As for bowing out of the conversation because you're "scared" ....what of...people disagreeing with you?

Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:50

Quickchangeartist · 09/02/2026 18:37

But then we also have Adele re-hashing break up after break up. Her dig was at her son’s father.

Show quote history

whats that got to do with TS? Why the deflection?! This is what I mean you just can’t say anything. Always has to be deflection or accusations of jealousy or whatever. Literally zero point.

OP posts:
Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:49

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/02/2026 18:47

She wants everyone to slag her off. There’s a difference.

Show quote history

Oh you did stick around!

OP posts:
AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/02/2026 18:47

Applecharlotte2 · 09/02/2026 18:37

She wants to have a discussion!

Show quote history

She wants everyone to slag her off. There’s a difference.

Quickchangeartist · 09/02/2026 18:37

Jbum · 09/02/2026 18:29

Why is she making digs at her fiancé's ex? That is very mean girl. After all she got the guy and is marrying him, grow up and be mature and live your happy life why bitch about his ex. Just like stop going on about your exs in your songs so over it and again your in a relationship and getting married.

But then we also have Adele re-hashing break up after break up. Her dig was at her son’s father.

Applecharlotte2 · 09/02/2026 18:37

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/02/2026 21:55

You also don’t have to pay any attention to TS if she triggers you this much, let alone start threads on Mumsnet about her.

Show quote history

She wants to have a discussion!

Quickchangeartist · 09/02/2026 18:35

I’m 57. I like her a lot. I am impressed by her work ethic and producing Eras which I’d have killed to see. I like tracks on all her albums. Not every single one, but then I don’t initially like all of the Beatles, Stones, Madonna, Beyoncé etc. Typically though after I’ve rested an album I find a new love on a later listen and tracks I loved initially go down.

With the global tonnage of fans she has, some will go locco. She cannot reasonably be held to account for that.

As to politics. She could say a lot. Would you? Knowing you could be shot by a MAGA nut job? There are plenty of other targets, with loftier political ambitions (Clooney) at 36 I’d prefer to stay alive and use my influence when it can actually count for something.

CandiedPrincess · 09/02/2026 18:35

I bloody love the new album. It took about a weekend to grow on me but it's never been off since. Totally different vibe to TTPD which I also loved but then most of her albums are different to the next. Can't please all of the people all of the time.

Jbum · 09/02/2026 18:29

Why is she making digs at her fiancé's ex? That is very mean girl. After all she got the guy and is marrying him, grow up and be mature and live your happy life why bitch about his ex. Just like stop going on about your exs in your songs so over it and again your in a relationship and getting married.

Ninerainbows · 09/02/2026 18:25

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:19

Oh I meant the no talent weird looks and whatever else you were banging on about

Show quote history

I'm not "banging on". These are quotes from the people agreeing with your stance, on the thread you started. You know, the "anything" you claim you can't say.

Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:24

Zov · 09/02/2026 17:50

But why do you WANT to? Confused Why do you WANT to say anything against her?

Show quote history

wtf

OP posts:
Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:22

Zov · 09/02/2026 17:59

But @SirQuintus it's always Taylor Swift! Well nearly always. She receives more vitriol on Mumsnet than ANYone. It's bizarre!

She’s the biggest pop star on the planet!!!!

OP posts:
Original poster
Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:19

Ninerainbows · 09/02/2026 17:44

This not you then?

Oh she's in control! The wedding sounds like it's going to be huge on another scale. Disney documentary? You bet!

I don't think her fans engaging in discussions on threads like these means you "can't say anything whatsoever". If someone disagrees with you, that's an opinion same as yours.

Show quote history

Oh I meant the no talent weird looks and whatever else you were banging on about

OP posts: