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to think it’s a bit depressing that women still use these terms against other women?

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HazelMember · 08/02/2026 18:08

I’ve noticed that the harshest, most misogynistic insults on mumsnet I hear are actually coming from women directed at other women. Words like cunt, bitch, cow, etc.

When men are criticised, the language often seems much milder or at least less specifically gendered.

Is it internalised misogyny? Habit? Just how people speak now?

OP posts:
blubberball · 09/02/2026 18:32

I must admit, I think to myself "poor cow" sometimes. Usually if I see a heavily pregnant woman on a hot day. I also think it whenever I see any animal struggling in pregnancy or birth, regardless of if that animal is indeed a cow. I don't know why. It feels like a term of endearment

Differentforgirls · 09/02/2026 18:31

YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 16:47

Of course not spending time with someone who's language you don't like isn't policing their language! You're agreeing with me!

In response to "You don't get to police peoples language" @Differentforgirls replied "yes I do actually as I would never be in the company of most of them on this thread". I'm pointing out that is incorrect, and you have agreed with me whilst thinking you're arguing against me. The comprehension is not strong here....

She doesn't have to tolerate other people's use of language. But she can't police their language, stop them using terms they don't agree are misogynistic or just stop them saying things she doesn't like because she imagined herself superior to them, which she seems to think she can.

Edited

No I can’t. But I can choose never to be in their company.

thisfilmisboring123 · 09/02/2026 18:18

NotMeAtAll · 09/02/2026 17:38

I find "mingebag" quite a flexible insult, or the Irish variant "geebag" (with a hard G sound like in "geese").

Edited

Are you from Liverpool?
I’ve never heard it and wasn’t aware it was used elsewhere haha

I’d only ever use it to call someone tight/stingy?

Although, I’d use it for a male or female - I might be a potty mouth but I’m no misogynist.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2026 18:05

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 17:38

Report it then.

Why do I need to address the treatment the OP had received from the relative (on the basis of her autoimmune disease, which is a Protected Characteristic, by the way)?

Are you HR?

Edited

CBA, really. I reserve my reporting for online beggars and racists.

There's always somebody who picks up on SPAG, language or tone whilst ignoring the content that actually matters. They just don't usually start a TAAT when they aren't happy with the rest of the thread for failing to turn and focus upon the diversion whilst pretending it's just a coincidence.

SixtySomething · 09/02/2026 17:45

FreshInks · 08/02/2026 18:31

I agree.

Dictating how women should behave simply because we are women is pure misogyny.

I'm a bit baffled as to why you call this misogyny?
Misogny is hatred of women.
I don't see why someone with fixed ideas about how women should behave is more likely to be a misogynist than anyone else.

raspberets · 09/02/2026 17:43

Upstartled · 08/02/2026 18:28

Well, that's a bit rich coming from a gay man.

🤣🤣

NotMeAtAll · 09/02/2026 17:38

I find "mingebag" quite a flexible insult, or the Irish variant "geebag" (with a hard G sound like in "geese").

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 17:38

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2026 17:35

You started this thread minutes after posting on that one, criticising people's language, rather than addressing the treatment the OP had received from the relative (on the basis of her autoimmune disease, which is a Protected Characteristic, by the way). It's not a coincidence that it suddenly occurred to you to start a thread criticising people's language straight afterwards.

Report it then.

Why do I need to address the treatment the OP had received from the relative (on the basis of her autoimmune disease, which is a Protected Characteristic, by the way)?

Are you HR?

OP posts:
HazelMember · 09/02/2026 17:38

UniquePinkSwan · 09/02/2026 17:12

Are we not allowed to call out other women? Being a woman doesn’t make you good

Where was that said?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2026 17:35

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 17:03

How did I start a TAAT? Someone asked for an example and I gave one. There are thousands of others.

You started this thread minutes after posting on that one, criticising people's language, rather than addressing the treatment the OP had received from the relative (on the basis of her autoimmune disease, which is a Protected Characteristic, by the way). It's not a coincidence that it suddenly occurred to you to start a thread criticising people's language straight afterwards.

UniquePinkSwan · 09/02/2026 17:12

Are we not allowed to call out other women? Being a woman doesn’t make you good

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 17:03

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2026 16:57

You've hardly removed yourself from the conversation, have you? You focused upon that in your posts on the thread and have now started a TAAT to try to drum up support for your position.

Last time I looked, TAATs weren't in the spirit, by the way.

How did I start a TAAT? Someone asked for an example and I gave one. There are thousands of others.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2026 16:57

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 16:51

She is removing herself from their company. How is that trying to stop them?

I have seen nothing where it suggests she sees herself as superior.

You've hardly removed yourself from the conversation, have you? You focused upon that in your posts on the thread and have now started a TAAT to try to drum up support for your position.

Last time I looked, TAATs weren't in the spirit, by the way.

canklesmctacotits · 09/02/2026 16:53

I take as much objection to you telling me what language I can/can't use as any man doing the same. Why should I spare another woman if the description is warranted? Because she's a woman?

I won't stand for it from a man - he doesn't get to throw his weight around, telling me what I can and can't do, just because he's a man and thinks he has authority over me because of that. I won't stand for it from a woman - who are you to tell me I must #bekind to another woman just because she's a woman?

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 16:51

YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 16:47

Of course not spending time with someone who's language you don't like isn't policing their language! You're agreeing with me!

In response to "You don't get to police peoples language" @Differentforgirls replied "yes I do actually as I would never be in the company of most of them on this thread". I'm pointing out that is incorrect, and you have agreed with me whilst thinking you're arguing against me. The comprehension is not strong here....

She doesn't have to tolerate other people's use of language. But she can't police their language, stop them using terms they don't agree are misogynistic or just stop them saying things she doesn't like because she imagined herself superior to them, which she seems to think she can.

Edited

She is removing herself from their company. How is that trying to stop them?

I have seen nothing where it suggests she sees herself as superior.

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YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 16:47

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 16:04

That’s a ridiculous comparison. Choosing not to spend time with someone because their language is unpleasant isn’t “policing” them, it’s just having standards.

They are still completely free to talk however they want. What they are not entitled to is an audience.

Comparing that to the police refusing to deal with crime is honestly daft. The police have a legal duty. People do not have a duty to tolerate behaviour they find obnoxious.

Of course not spending time with someone who's language you don't like isn't policing their language! You're agreeing with me!

In response to "You don't get to police peoples language" @Differentforgirls replied "yes I do actually as I would never be in the company of most of them on this thread". I'm pointing out that is incorrect, and you have agreed with me whilst thinking you're arguing against me. The comprehension is not strong here....

She doesn't have to tolerate other people's use of language. But she can't police their language, stop them using terms they don't agree are misogynistic or just stop them saying things she doesn't like because she imagined herself superior to them, which she seems to think she can.

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 16:04

YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 13:45

Lol. Choosing not to socialise with people who's language you don't like doesn't stop them using or police them in any way.

Imagine if the police just stopped interacting with criminals and called it policing 😂

That’s a ridiculous comparison. Choosing not to spend time with someone because their language is unpleasant isn’t “policing” them, it’s just having standards.

They are still completely free to talk however they want. What they are not entitled to is an audience.

Comparing that to the police refusing to deal with crime is honestly daft. The police have a legal duty. People do not have a duty to tolerate behaviour they find obnoxious.

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Differentforgirls · 09/02/2026 13:48

YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 13:45

Lol. Choosing not to socialise with people who's language you don't like doesn't stop them using or police them in any way.

Imagine if the police just stopped interacting with criminals and called it policing 😂

Whit? 😬

YourBreezyBiscuit · 09/02/2026 13:45

Differentforgirls · 09/02/2026 11:48

I wouldn’t say many - a few. And yes I do actually as I would never be in the company of most of them on this thread.

Lol. Choosing not to socialise with people who's language you don't like doesn't stop them using or police them in any way.

Imagine if the police just stopped interacting with criminals and called it policing 😂

Brefugee · 09/02/2026 12:57

Sometimeswinning · 08/02/2026 22:08

I quite like upsetting the room. My friends Australian. It’s her standard greeting! Ah ya cunt!

yep, i actually use it very very rarely. Most recently about the SIL, before that about Noam Chomsky.

I don't think i have ever said it IRL except once when i said i have never said the C-word I'm going to try it.

And it did, indeed, silence the room. Next time i use it IRL i will make sure it does that again.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 09/02/2026 12:50

BatchCookBabe · 09/02/2026 12:46

I have never seen a woman call another woman a cunt on here A bitch maybe, but not cunt.

I see much worse things said against men on here!

I see it most days, hang around a bit. It’s not like calling rhe op one, but more in reference to the person the op is complaining about.

BatchCookBabe · 09/02/2026 12:46

I have never seen a woman call another woman a cunt on here A bitch maybe, but not cunt.

I see much worse things said against men on here!

Notthepope · 09/02/2026 12:41

Can we have suggestions of some acceptable alternatives?

BauhausOfEliott · 09/02/2026 12:19

HazelMember · 09/02/2026 09:03

Nobody is saying women only have to say nice things but each other but this kind of language does not need to be used.

Nobody needs to call someone a cunt but it's often a) accurate and b) funny, so I think I'll probably carry on doing it.

BauhausOfEliott · 09/02/2026 12:17

Sometimeswinning · 08/02/2026 22:22

Fine, I’ll reclaim it in the South then! Maybe it’s just my town.

I'm from London and I've certainly heard many people affectionately called 'you daft cunt' or 'you mad cunt' etc in a jokey, matey way.

I heard it used like that a lot more in London than I do where I currently live, in Manchester.