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Male friend sees romantic relationships as transactional and thinks lower and middle class men should go to Asia to find wives

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Primrose86 · 07/02/2026 21:06

I am 33 and have been married for 10.5 years with a 7 month old son. When we married, my dh was a poor student and we supported each other through unemployment, burnout/sickness, family drama, 3 year stint of living with his mum in our 20s (to save a deposit to buy a london flat) etc. There has been times when our disposable income was great and we could afford lots of holidays and weekend breaks plus overpay 1k into our mortgage. Other times less so.

My friend is in his early 30s and is convinced that women only like rich men (he thinks my dh is rich because he has an income of 75k which isnt that amazing in London). He thinks that another guy we both know (let's call him Friend A) who has been unlucky in love, would be much more successful on dating apps if he wrote ' I have a mortgage free 2 bed house in North London, no student loans, a car paid for in cash and am a lawyer'. All true BTW but of course Friend A is still single and has been single for most of the 11 years i have known him. He thinks that it is because Friend A is much too modest about his money or the women would all be lining outside his door.

Is this why so many younger men struggle now with relationships. Cos they have this view that they need to be the provider and women are only attracted to providers. He thinks love marriages are the minority. And says he would encourage all lower and middle class men to go to Asia to find a wife cos they have more economic power in Asian countries. When I tried to counter with examples, he thinks I am in denial and cited that men in the top 20% of the income quintiles are mostly in relationships but most in the poorest quintiles are single (i think personally its because higher earning men can afford to go on lots of dates which increases their chances; also attributes that command a higher salary are also attributes valued on the dating market like charisma/emotional intelligence).

Its honestly quite warped because most married men are not millionaires and marrying someone solely because they aren't high earning isn't even that lucrative anyway given frozen income tax thresholds and also job insecurity (many HENRY jobs can be lost during redundancy or are very high stress leading to burnout). Also this is based on the assumption that he will share his money with you...

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minou123 · 07/02/2026 21:11

Hmmmm, I wonder why women are choosing to stay single? 🤔

Especially when there is such a fine specimen as your male friend available?

Curious......curious

TomatoSandwiches · 07/02/2026 21:11

I'd stop hanging around him, sounds like an incel. Hasn't he given you the ick?

Primrose86 · 07/02/2026 21:11

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 07/02/2026 21:08

Your 'friend' sounds like an incel. FWIW I earn quite a lot more than my husband and always have. Women these days can pay their own bills, we are not interested in men for that.

I have known him for a long time and he always seemed very normal hence why this convo shocked me. He complained a lot about dating apps in the past but now he is outright saying that it is a function of evolution that women look for higher earners because we want to feel protected and in a capitalist society higher earners are 'protectors' like wtf

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cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 07/02/2026 21:08

Your 'friend' sounds like an incel. FWIW I earn quite a lot more than my husband and always have. Women these days can pay their own bills, we are not interested in men for that.