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Tiny bit of me wants to point out Karma (disability related)

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Blueeyedstork · 07/02/2026 14:15

In a nutshell my friends DH has always been very vocal about disabled people being a drain on society and that it should not matter how disabled someone is they should either work or go in a home. Benefits should not be allowed.

this conversation was had years ago and I ended up leaving the house as I myself am disabled and I work for a disability charity and part of that is help people filling in forms. He said that I was contributing to the problem!! He also said he ever found himself with a disability he would work.

anyway after a lot of bad blood we now tolerate each other for friends sake and the topic was never brought up.

3 months ago he had an car crash (not his fault) and he now facing life in a wheelchair. Suddenly he is wanting me to help with advice, benefits etc as it will take ages to get to a point where he can do some kind of work. he seems to have forgotten all he said before.

now I will help him for my friends sake and I won’t point out the irony of him being so against disabled people and now he is one himself. But a bit of me is temped.

it just goes to show it can really happen to anyone at any age at any time. I developed epilepsy at 23 and narcepsy at 27. My cousin was diagnosed with MS at 40. I also know many people through work who were not born with a disability but in later life due to accident or illness. Many of those have admitted they thought it would never happened to them and a few have even said they looked down on people with a disability.

I decided to write this thread now as a lady had put on another thread that vulnerable people should be at the bottom of the list when it comes to services and budgets. I am guessing she would change her tune very quickly if she found herself of someone she loves on the other side.

it can happened to anyone, any time, any age, any where. I think people forgot this.

OP posts:
Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:48

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/02/2026 16:20

Why? Are disabled people only allowed to be soft, fluffy and docile helpers at best?

Is the idea that a disabled person who has already experienced multiple people - including this one personally - telling them that they have no worth, no value, entitlement to support, adjustments or accommodations to work and should be locked up away from society for being useless eaters with no help from anybody might actually be a normal, rounded human who thinks 'Well, that viewpoint hasn't exactly worked for you, has it?' before actually using their expertise to help the same person who objected to the entire notion of helping disabled people so contrary to the noble, saintly little creatures to be patted on the head?

Aww, OP, you've been thoroughly disapproved of when you should #bekind. You know, be a good little disabled person and fit right into the fluffy stereotype of the inspirational not quite adequate, child like souls who try really hard to be as good as the rest of the population taxpayers.

I'd signpost him to the relevant charities and leave him to it. He's going to need to develop some resilience in dealing with people who will look at him and think he should be in a home somewhere or assume that he's unemployable with or without the 30 week wait for Access to Work. Oh, and he'll need to learn to not be so assertive. Some people don't like the disabled to sound a trifle snarky, it smacks of them getting ideas above their station, after all.

👏🏻

this about sums it up!!

nut no 'the poor menz' are out in force.

5128gap · 07/02/2026 17:45

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:30

...and?

why are you defending the nasty bastard?

Its not about defending him. He's indefensible. It's seeing disability as a punishment that's in poor taste. No one 'deserves' disability and no one becomes disabled because they deserve it. There is no link whatsoever with having a horrible personality and becoming disabled and the thread is making that link.

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:44

fromthegecko · 07/02/2026 16:10

He won't have learnt anything, or changed his mind. He will convince himself that he deserves all the help, because of everything he has contributed to the system. It's only the other, non-special, people that don't deserve help.

People don't change.

Exactly this!

I wonder how many people saying nasty/negative things about the OP are disabled themselves

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:42

EleanorPeck · 07/02/2026 16:08

I'm disabled and I totally get how you feel, OP. He had horribly ableist attitudes and now he's become disabled himself. I dont think you're being gleeful at all - I'm sure you wouldn't wish the accident on him, just that you hope he realises in time that anyone can become disabled and society should help those who need it. I wouldn't say anything to him directly though, especially as it's not been long since the trauma of his accident. But totally normal and human of you to feel the way you do. Perhaps in time he'll reflect and apologise to you for his past views. In the meantime, I'd offer to help with the forms or suggest he refers to the charity you work for so it's done officially.

I wouldn't be holding my breath!

the bastards rarely see their hypocrisy

Bikergran · 07/02/2026 17:41

My cousin was a Navy pilot, super fit, young, handsome, everything looking good. Passenger in a car crash. Paralysed from the chest down. He made a good life for himself, but it really can happen in an instant.

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:36

lazyarse123 · 07/02/2026 15:11

Why?
All we're hearing lately is how benefits should be cut. This is just the other side of that.
No one knows what may happen and what they might need in future.
.

Exactly

DaffodilValley · 07/02/2026 17:36

BrightLightTonight · 07/02/2026 15:17

This post is such bad taste. It almost feels like you think he has got what he deserves.

But he absolutely has, I can’t see how it’s in any sort of bad taste.

In the classic children’s story “The Waterbabies” the main character meets Mrs Bedonebyasyoudid, who taught him that if you treat others with contempt you will reap what you sow. All the OP is feeling is the entirely justified acknowledgement that this person has learned his lesson in the most complete and effective way possible.

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:30

Zov · 07/02/2026 16:51

I agree. The OP is dressing it up as 'well now he knows what it's like!' but her posts have a whiff of schadenfreude. She has even said 'oh the irony!' And it feels a bit like 'KARMA gotcha!' I'm surprised so many posters are saying 'YANBU.' Not a nice thread at all.

...and?

why are you defending the nasty bastard?

5128gap · 07/02/2026 17:28

If you don't want to help him because he is a horrible person, that's understandable.
But I'm not loving the idea that disability is some sort of cosmic comeuppance for being a horrible person. Following that through to its logical conclusion isn't great for disabled people, is it?

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:27

Dollymylove · 07/02/2026 16:41

Many disabled people can and do work. Many that cant probably wish they could.
After the way this so called friend treated you I would be telling him to naff off and find advice elsewhere. Has he not heard of Google?

Have you filled any of these firms in or tried to Google for help? Given your post I'd say not.

daisychain01 · 07/02/2026 17:26

Today has been a bad day for MN.

it must be the weather, or the vile behaviour in the big wild world is infecting people. I've never known it to be so spiteful and malevolent.

Queenoftartts · 07/02/2026 17:26

DotAndCarryOne2 · 07/02/2026 16:38

The rest of who ?

Anyone else the OP works for that goes to them for help obviously.🙄

daisychain01 · 07/02/2026 17:24

Fodencat · 07/02/2026 16:50

It’s what the thread is about. HTH

No it doesn't help. But it does show you up.

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:21

CashewTiara · 07/02/2026 16:45

Exactly

Exactly NOT

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:21

dreichluver · 07/02/2026 16:45

Oh really?

That's exactly how disabled people feel when they read posts on SM suggesting they're an undeserving drain on the system. Or work shy.

And every time I read that detritus I think...karma. Some people truly believe they'll always live charmed lives.

Until they don't.

Yep

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:20

TalulahJP · 07/02/2026 15:59

the post is not in bad taste.
it’s a harsh reality and a human response.

I agree.

there are some proper Pollyanna's on this thread.

i became disabled overnight & it doesn't upset me, she hasn't says ALL disabled people deserve it. Just that this twat this bloke is now wanting help. Not to be out in a home and she's 🙄🙄🙄🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

ForeverTheOptomist · 07/02/2026 17:19

Not happy with some of the extremely judgemental messages on here after reading a very honest and heartfelt post. It think that OP is v v brave to have admitted having the (limited) feelings following her/his friend becoming disabled. I also think that OP has been incredibly generous to have continued her friendship with this man when he was so damning towards the disabled, and should be very proud for standing beside him.

Controversial here, but do you re-consider your attitude towards someone because they become disabled? Does it make them immune to feelings of negativity? Are they not still a total ?

Perspective. Quick idea here and forgive me for being perhaps slightly extreme but it's a good example. Epstein. Hmm, he wasn't very nice, and he committed some terrible crimes. He also did some dreadful things to women. However, had he fallen in front of a tram, and been debilitated, would you then have felt sorry for him?

I'm off now. This is just making me cross.

Barnbrack · 07/02/2026 17:16

Dyou know, it can be very hard to put yourself in someone else's position particularly with disability and understanding the wide range of disadvantages disability brings with it. Also benefits, people see it as something for nothing I til their circumstances change and they need to claim.

I think part of being a good person, someone who cares about people suffering disability having a safety net, also involves acknowledging that arseoles exist among both the able bodied and disabled populations and even arseoles like him deserve help claiming the necessary disability benefits to keep them ticking over. Hopefully he'll build some character form it but if not don't lower yourself thinking of karma

Ihad2Strokes · 07/02/2026 17:11

BrightLightTonight · 07/02/2026 15:17

This post is such bad taste. It almost feels like you think he has got what he deserves.

I have no problem even if the OP does feel like that The guy was an utter gobshite, absolutely awful.

I wouldn't say 'he deserved it' but I would say better him than someone who wasn't suck a nasty bastard about disabled oeopke

💁🏻‍♀️

Frugalgal · 07/02/2026 17:10

DotAndCarryOne2 · 07/02/2026 16:31

Yep. I feel the same. No doubt the irony won’t be lost on him but there really is no need to point it out. Life has delivered a very harsh lesson on what understanding other peoples’ difficulties is all about, because now he needs someone to understand his. I understand how OP feels but the bigger thing is to rise above it and offer her help.

Why are we never supposed to point this stuff out to right wing types? They spend their lives looking down on other people whether because they're poor or disabled or gay or whatever and only ever see the error of their ways when they themselves are directly affected..

I know someone ( a relative I sometimes couldn't avoid, or I'd have had nothing to do with her) who claims to be a pious Christian who used to say the most awful things about gay people. Her golden boy came out age 23 when he'd finished uni and moved away and oh my god, did she ever have a Damascene conversion. All those horrible, narrow minded, bigoted things she'd said about other people's kids over the years - we were supposed to pretend she'd never said them.

MaidOfSteel · 07/02/2026 17:09

firstofallimadelight · 07/02/2026 14:30

I hoped the lady in the other thread was being flippant

There had been quite a few nasty threads lately where disabled people have been told they shouldn’t be allowed to vote, shouldn’t be permitted to take part in society, should be put in homes, should be forced to travel around in clearly marked cars so everyone knows those who opt for a Motability car, should not receive any benefits at all etc.

It’s awful to be on the receiving end of such uncivilised coments, so I can understand why the OP feels the way she does. And I very much admire her for being the bigger person and assisting this man to get the help he is entitled to as a disabled person.

Enigma54 · 07/02/2026 17:02

I wouldn’t help this man at all. Ask him go seek advice front CAB.

Ive got two incurable cancers( on chemo until it stops working!) I’m sick of people slating people on benefits.
My own neighbour refers to those on benefit, as leeches! I’ve worked or been on training all my life. I didn’t ask for cancer. Guess that makes me a “ leech “ then?

Anyahyacinth · 07/02/2026 17:02

sploshsplash · 07/02/2026 14:48

Agreed

Unlike those that glory in the idea of removing support from the disabled.

Then someone speaks about being disabled on those threads and people say "not you of course, you'll be ok" ...Knowing full well it will affect every disabled person.

Frightening a whole group of vulnerable people is ok? Commenting on how oblivious one able bodied person was is NOT ok?? 🤔

SunMoonandChocolate · 07/02/2026 17:01

BrightLightTonight · 07/02/2026 15:17

This post is such bad taste. It almost feels like you think he has got what he deserves.

I think he has got what he deserves! Why is it OK for people like him to spout his vile shit to others who are suffering, and then expect those same people to feel sorry for him and help him when he finds himself in the same situation? The OP is a better person than me, as I don't think I'd be able to restrain myself in this circumstance.

ForeverTheOptomist · 07/02/2026 16:59

AnneLovesGilbert · 07/02/2026 14:29

That’s not what karma is. And given your job and disabilities I find your glee at his horrendous experience pretty revolting.

I guess that this response is pretty revolting too, or in the very least judgemental.

Glee? I don't see any glee?

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