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To think being single is not all it's cracked up to be

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BrokenWingsCantFly · 06/02/2026 23:43

I see a post every day that makes me think "thank god I am single and don't have to deal with that". But really, people only post when they are feeling down dont they? I assume the majority of relationships / marriages are ticking along nicely, but no one is going to post about how happy and content they are, so we only read about 1 side.

I'm here now on a Friday night doing DIY alone, in the hope of selling my house in a few months. This has stirred a few thoughts. Firstly, if I was in a relationship, then like in previous relationships, I would have someone to do fun things with tonight instead of this. Then, if i had found my person years ago, we would be doing the DIY together as a joint gain. Or they would be doing it like many relationships. Then, when it comes to buying i have a decent budget but just think about how many more options I would have if I had a partner on a similar salary with a similar deposit.

It feels sometimes like trying to live life with 1 hand tied behind your back. No matter how strongly independent you feel, life would be easier with a partner. There is no safety net, which terrifies me often, if I loose my job, even for a month or 2 I would really struggle as no one else is going to pick up the bills for a while.

I'm 38 so no spring chicken. Growing up i assumed everyone just met their person and got married and life just worked out. Luckily I know a couple of other successful beautiful women my age who have also been unlucky in love, so feel less odd or alone in this

It just feels like no matter what I achieve in life. I could achieve more with a supportive partner by my side

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BrokenWingsCantFly · 07/02/2026 17:56

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 07/02/2026 15:34

The best support I have ever had is from my siblings. I’ve never had a partner that’s been there for me. I much prefer to be single but maybe that’s because I’ve never had a good relationship. I found the whole ‘looking for a suitable partner’ thing exhausting. I’m baffled at how some people find it so easy and even exciting!

Same. It is exhausting to some people. I see others jump from long term relationship straight in to another and think how are you finding it so easy

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BrokenWingsCantFly · 07/02/2026 17:54

Justpastflouch · 07/02/2026 15:34

When I was single, I had fun Friday nights.

After I was married I’ve spent time doing boring DIY.

Life is what you make it.

Up until around 30 my single Saturday nights were a night out with my other single or only recently coupled up friends. Now my friends have either moved away to bills a new life with partners, or are spending their weekends with their partners & children.

Maybe that's how I found it easier to be single in the past

I would have to give myself a whole new persona to find new friends available to party each weekend in my age bracket. Being autistic making new friends don't come easy. Life is not always what you make it. But doing your best with the card you are delt

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/02/2026 17:50

It isn’t too late to meet a man or have kids at your age OP. I’ve got a friend who met her partner and had her second child in her 40s. Retrained in her career too as a podiatrist.

I’ve recently met a really nice man 3 months ago after years of either being single or dating a man with no chemistry. I’m 54. So it can be done.

TwistedWonder · 07/02/2026 17:42

Warmlover · 07/02/2026 17:27

Men my age mostly look like Mr Potato Head

This. This is such a major factor. Most middle aged men are so very unattractive. And so many of them look the same. Round and bald. I look at my friends’ husbands and wonder how they can have sex with them. But then a lot of the time it turns out they’re not really having sex anyway.

I dated a few men very briefly a couple of years ago but just found it impossible to find any attraction. And rather than the presumption that women are the ones desperate to find a man, I found most older single men really needy. They seem to want a nurse with a purse to cook clean wipe their arse and provide sex so they don’t have to look after themselves.
In my personal experience there’s a lot more happily single mature women than men.

Warmlover · 07/02/2026 17:27

Men my age mostly look like Mr Potato Head

This. This is such a major factor. Most middle aged men are so very unattractive. And so many of them look the same. Round and bald. I look at my friends’ husbands and wonder how they can have sex with them. But then a lot of the time it turns out they’re not really having sex anyway.

Warmlover · 07/02/2026 17:23

TwistedWonder · 07/02/2026 16:39

Not in my experience. I was in a really good marriage that drifted the last few years and I’m still good friends with my ex.
I never in a million years thought I’d be single in my 50’d but now I’ve been totally single as in not even really dated for over 6 years and I honestly can’t imagine being in a relationship again.
Even if I met Mr Perfect tomorrow, I would never ever cohabit again. The thought of having another man living in my space disturbing my peace fills me with horror. I can’t imagine coming home from work and having someone want to talk to me - I relish the silence of my flat.

We sound very similar!

KittyJo79 · 07/02/2026 17:18

I rent privately, live hand to mouth (no savings) and my wage is the lower end of average. I love being single but to me if feels like a luxury. It petrifies me that I could be evicted at any moment, be unable to
afford the rent on my own elsewhere, have nobody to lean on etc. Honestly if I just had my own home and a better source of income I would literally be the happiest person on earth.

mamajong · 07/02/2026 17:11

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 11:49

Your post although understandable given what you've been through is also imo really sad that you feel this is the treatment dished out by all men if not sooner then later. Friends with benefits is fine if that's what makes you happy. I can't imagine having a 'pool of men' who offer to exchange chores for sex. I couldn't look them in the face before they left. 😂This is a personal feeling & just another view, not a judgement of those happy with the set-up.

Excuse the emoji. I couldn't delete it.

Are you ok?? 🤣 Nowhere have i said that treatment is dished out by all men sooner or later. I think its pretty clear i am saying the shitty men are attracted by a neediness to be in a relationship and the way to avoid them is to be comfortable in your own skin and happily single before looking for someone.

Further your assertion that i swap chores for sex is hilarious - where have you dreamt that up?? I have a couple of friends with benefits and that is completely separate from just friends who help me with chores. One is my female best friend who happens to be handier with a screwdriver than me. My friends husband is a plumber and helps me out in return for a coffee and a bit of dog sitting. I think its quite sad how easily you jump to conclusions 🤣. Sorry about the emojis, i didnt delete them because i found your post so ridiculous it was funny!

TwistedWonder · 07/02/2026 16:39

FirstdatesFred · 07/02/2026 12:52

I think probably the people who appreciate single ness most are those who have left bad relationships.

I imagine it is a bit harder if you don't know what the alternative can be like and how lonely and soul destroying it can be to be with the wrong person.

Not in my experience. I was in a really good marriage that drifted the last few years and I’m still good friends with my ex.
I never in a million years thought I’d be single in my 50’d but now I’ve been totally single as in not even really dated for over 6 years and I honestly can’t imagine being in a relationship again.
Even if I met Mr Perfect tomorrow, I would never ever cohabit again. The thought of having another man living in my space disturbing my peace fills me with horror. I can’t imagine coming home from work and having someone want to talk to me - I relish the silence of my flat.

WestwardHo1 · 07/02/2026 16:39

MojoMoon · 07/02/2026 14:13

Having a high income generally makes life easier and more enjoyable and gives you more opportunities to choose than being a average earner and much easier than being poor.

A second income in a household is therefore helpful. It's not unreasonable to say that.

But what do you want the outcome of this post to be?

A loving, supportive relationship with a kind, respectful, funny, interesting man who does his fair share around the house and enjoys similar activities while also increasing your household income significantly would be great.

I am also similar age and long term single. I can recognise that.

But it's not like we get the choice to just go out and start that relationship, is it? And sadly there doesn't appear to be loads of men out there that meet those criteria.

My long term thinking is looking at co-living. Group of excellent female friends, in a jointly owned building converted into small (but stylish) flats but with a large communal kitchen, living room, gym, gardens for shared dining and activities (but with own small kitchen in flat when you can't want to be alone). Add some shared guest bedrooms that can be reserved so families can visit. Community and support and companionship for independent women. That's the dream.

This sounds absolutely bloody brilliant.

I was at the surgery for a check this morning. Was chatting to the nurse, who'd been having a really hard time. We shared stories, had a bit of a sniffle and a hug. Unprofessional? Maybe, but it struck me how bloody brilliant and supportive middle aged women are generally.

Sorry for cluster post.

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 16:36

WestwardHo1 · 07/02/2026 16:29

I love this post!

And yes, your average 50 year old available man tends to be physically a way past his best, yet still thinks he deserves someone "hot". I'm thinking of my paunchy, short legged, balding, man boobed ex. Yet the thing is, the woman he was having an affair with (and is now "with" full time, though I suspect serial adulterers never change their spots) is a bit younger, slim, long blond shiny hair, active and objectively rather more attractive than he is. I suspect that she, like I was, is blinded by the fact that he has a well paid job with proper hero status, and a big cock.

What more can you ask for 😂
Only joking of course

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 16:31

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/02/2026 15:49

Of course and everyone is different. But I have to challenge the narrative that you see on here a lot that if you are happy single it means something has gone badly wrong in your relationships.

Some people are more comfortable in a committed relationship and others genuinely function better alone. And that’s not because they are “bitter” or have been hurt.

I had a successful aunt who was attractive, had a successful career, never married & had very few relationships in her life. I plucked up the courage to ask her why & to be honest I started thinking she might have been a lesbian which I'd have had no issues with if she was. We had the conversation & it turned out she was only ever interested in men but had little or no sex drive & relationships always fizzled out. She was always happy probably because intimacy in that way was never something she missed. Everyone is definitely different & shouldn't be judged for their choices. Safe to say I definitely never inherited my aunts traits 😂

WestwardHo1 · 07/02/2026 16:29

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 07/02/2026 15:53

I'd like a relationship and was in relationships continuously from 18 - 47 ish (now 53). Men my age mostly look like Mr Potato Head and the available ones are also mostly a bit dim. I can't see how I could possibly find someone who didn't annoy me. They'd have to fit into my routine and only speak at certain times :). Also, there's no way I'm going back to watching action films etc. If they don't want to watch Jane Austen adaptations I'm not interested. They'd also have absolutely no say in how I decorated.

I love this post!

And yes, your average 50 year old available man tends to be physically a way past his best, yet still thinks he deserves someone "hot". I'm thinking of my paunchy, short legged, balding, man boobed ex. Yet the thing is, the woman he was having an affair with (and is now "with" full time, though I suspect serial adulterers never change their spots) is a bit younger, slim, long blond shiny hair, active and objectively rather more attractive than he is. I suspect that she, like I was, is blinded by the fact that he has a well paid job with proper hero status, and a big cock.

WestwardHo1 · 07/02/2026 16:23

MissyMooPoo2 · 07/02/2026 13:50

I’m just a step behind you. Same age, divorced after 20 year relationship, now in an unfulfilling relationship (8 years) with someone I strongly suspect has cheated right from the start and primarily used me for money. He shares the load to a small extent, sex stopped about 5 years ago and although we do have cuddles on the sofa, that’s it in terms of affection, unless I’m pleasing him. I spend way too much time trying to decide whether this meagre pittance is better than nothing at all and wish I could move forward.

Sweetheart I have so much empathy. I was in that position probably for the last 2 years of the 5½ relationship. Looking back that was clearly when he started the relationship with the OW. So many bloody lies.

I will say this: that as much as I was agonising over "surely I deserve more than these crumbs" vs the terror of being alone (no more days out. No more pub lunches. No more evenings in front of the telly. No more sex), he ended it anyway. Brutally. And now I wish VERY much that I'd been strong and self respecting enough to end it first, because what I'm left with is worse: feeling like absolutely nothing. Only you can decide, but that's what I wish.

MrFluffyDogIsMyBestFriend · 07/02/2026 15:53

I'd like a relationship and was in relationships continuously from 18 - 47 ish (now 53). Men my age mostly look like Mr Potato Head and the available ones are also mostly a bit dim. I can't see how I could possibly find someone who didn't annoy me. They'd have to fit into my routine and only speak at certain times :). Also, there's no way I'm going back to watching action films etc. If they don't want to watch Jane Austen adaptations I'm not interested. They'd also have absolutely no say in how I decorated.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/02/2026 15:49

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 14:58

@Thepeopleversuswork
That's a matter of opinion & due to personal preference.

Personally I'd rather be in a 'formally committed relationship' which feels like a solid anchor in a life filled with stormy seas than float about with nobody to rely on day & night when needed. To love & be loved in return obviously helps.

Edited

Of course and everyone is different. But I have to challenge the narrative that you see on here a lot that if you are happy single it means something has gone badly wrong in your relationships.

Some people are more comfortable in a committed relationship and others genuinely function better alone. And that’s not because they are “bitter” or have been hurt.

MidnightMeltdown · 07/02/2026 15:41

It all depends on the relationship. You are comparing single life to the relationship ‘ideal’. Real relationships come with lots of problems too, and often these can outweigh the good things.

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 15:38

BrokenWingsCantFly · 07/02/2026 14:10

Thank you 😊
I think being autistic doesn't help. I find going on dates exhausting and never look forward to it. I put on a fake smile and hide my uncomfort and dred. Usually they go ok but I find it hard to feel that connection or seeing myself being able to be intimate with many people. After 1 date I then struggle to want to make the effort finding a new person to go on a date with as they are often just a waste of time. I been on only 3 dates in the last 9 months. I wish I could trick my brain into thinking of them as just a fun few hours out, even if they lead nowhere. I know I need to make more effort if I want to meet the one

Autism has such a huge spectrum of symptoms . I have an autistic friend with traits that could also be described has having personality traits which are more unusual such as hating restaurants where there are clattering dishes, loud music & continuous inane chatter. She has other traits like being able to smell things others can't & she becomes anxious if plans change. Her partner is used to her foibles & loves her because she is intelligent, funny, caring & sensitive. She also works out in a flash how much money everyone is due to pay when out for group meals 😂

There is definitely someone out there for you OP. You just need to make the best of your unique self & as you said, make more effort, be open about your traits without shouting I'm autistic & stop trying to hide your true personality💐

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 07/02/2026 15:34

Bikergran · 07/02/2026 14:02

I did not say that, as you would see if you bother to read my post properly. If they stay single, all well and good, but it is NOT by their choice, life in general is easier with support close by, and the closest support is with a good partner.

The best support I have ever had is from my siblings. I’ve never had a partner that’s been there for me. I much prefer to be single but maybe that’s because I’ve never had a good relationship. I found the whole ‘looking for a suitable partner’ thing exhausting. I’m baffled at how some people find it so easy and even exciting!

Justpastflouch · 07/02/2026 15:34

When I was single, I had fun Friday nights.

After I was married I’ve spent time doing boring DIY.

Life is what you make it.

BrokenWingsCantFly · 07/02/2026 15:27

andIsaid · 07/02/2026 14:20

I understand the sentiment OP.

You would like to share your life. Have someone ask if you fancy a tea, or what shall we eat/watch/do tonight? It feels good to have someone think about you, consider you, and have you in their heart. It is also nice to give that to someone.

Clearly, those who have been badly or poorly treated find happiness and relief in not having the burden of someone else. My aunt springs to mind. She is thriving.

But I do think that in the main, humans always have and always will, build some sort of family unit.

Just so you know, I met dh at 38. The oldest two are in uni now and the youngest is getting close.

Has it been perfect? Definitely not.

But it has been good. It has been our unique, flawed, frustrating, loving, time together.

I am grateful for it, would not swop it, and so very glad I jumped into it.

Yes, that's what I would like. I love cooking for a partner and my food be appreciated. To get into a tv series together. My last relationship felt so close to being the right 1. We liked doing all the same things, would head out on a Saturday or Sunday with no plan in mind and always find fun things to do together. Liked the same sort of shows to binge on in the weekdays he come over, all cuddled up. Then the lies started to show and it all went south.

Thanks for sharing your story of finding your match at my age. There is hope yet

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BrokenWingsCantFly · 07/02/2026 15:11

MojoMoon · 07/02/2026 14:13

Having a high income generally makes life easier and more enjoyable and gives you more opportunities to choose than being a average earner and much easier than being poor.

A second income in a household is therefore helpful. It's not unreasonable to say that.

But what do you want the outcome of this post to be?

A loving, supportive relationship with a kind, respectful, funny, interesting man who does his fair share around the house and enjoys similar activities while also increasing your household income significantly would be great.

I am also similar age and long term single. I can recognise that.

But it's not like we get the choice to just go out and start that relationship, is it? And sadly there doesn't appear to be loads of men out there that meet those criteria.

My long term thinking is looking at co-living. Group of excellent female friends, in a jointly owned building converted into small (but stylish) flats but with a large communal kitchen, living room, gym, gardens for shared dining and activities (but with own small kitchen in flat when you can't want to be alone). Add some shared guest bedrooms that can be reserved so families can visit. Community and support and companionship for independent women. That's the dream.

It's good you have friends in simular situation to yourself so you can build a shared goal.

What do I want out of this post?
What i got i suppose:

To vent, in real life I put on a brave front of almost portraying i am proud I can do it all alone and see admiting my feelings on this as admitting to failure.

To hear others in the same boat feeling the same. Solidarity in numbers and all that. know 2 women in real life who have been single their whole lives. Both also successful careers and owning their own starter homes. The one we have shared difficulties in finding a decent man, but havnt got into the deep stuff of how that makes us feel or how we are finding doing life alone. The other, although she is on the apps and dating, she just portrays the same as I do, that look how great it is that I am doing all this by my self

To hear the sides of the women happy alone and their reasons, in the hope of being able to convince myself to be happier bout things.

To hear from the women who were in the same boat and have found love later in life, so I have some hope that my time will come.

Edited to add that a couple of posters have said about saving for a safety net. I was going to make extra payments towards the mortgage the next few months before I sell to kind of increase my deposit. After their advise I am now going to save the extra payments instead until I have enough. That was a big takeaway from this thread. I had always thought pay off debts 1st, apart from a low amount of savings for rainy day things such as car needs

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MissyMooPoo2 · 07/02/2026 15:07

Dappy777 · 07/02/2026 14:35

Apparently, the happiest group of people are single women with no children. Some people really are happy and fulfilled in a relationship. But I’d guesstimate that the majority are not and only stick it out because of money, housing, the kids, or a fear of loneliness.

I suggested this in an earlier AIBU and the majority said I was being ridiculous. But I’m still sure this is what is going on for many.

Keepingthepeace9 · 07/02/2026 14:58

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/02/2026 13:44

I think that’s an oversimplification. Its possible to be in a “good” relationship which also makes you lose the will to live.

Sometimes its less about the person and more about what “being in a relationship” does to the people in the relationship. I think something about being formally committed to another person sucks all the joy out of it.

@Thepeopleversuswork
That's a matter of opinion & due to personal preference.

Personally I'd rather be in a 'formally committed relationship' which feels like a solid anchor in a life filled with stormy seas than float about with nobody to rely on day & night when needed. To love & be loved in return obviously helps.

Dappy777 · 07/02/2026 14:35

Apparently, the happiest group of people are single women with no children. Some people really are happy and fulfilled in a relationship. But I’d guesstimate that the majority are not and only stick it out because of money, housing, the kids, or a fear of loneliness.

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