Epstein files

But then genuine faith and hope, with love and empathy, not the extremist version that passes for faith in Christian nationalist circles (which by the way are rife with pervs)

This ^^ right here. Out of everything we do and don't know, out of all the 'information' that has been 'released' the only person actually in prison - not even in jail awaiting trial - but actually serving a sentence is ... a single, indivual woman...

How can we read them?

The free will of man has and will be his downfall.

Mary Magdalene’s gospel, and other gnostic texts offer a far more balanced view.

I for one, am glad I have my faith to turn to in a time like this.

This has been on my mind for days now, I am so horrified by what is coming out, but sadly not surprised. There is no trust in society, it is everywhere.

Apparently the Wayfair 'conspiracy' has truth to it, the one about very expensive items of furniture being sold, very expensive furniture with human names. All the conspiracies are proving to be true. It's insidious.

Except Gibson has been MAGA for a while and it's pretty clear that the MAGA elite is firmly part of the swamp.

This is so well worded, and I suspect, true

It's one of those occasions where I don't feel surprised at all. And I don't feel any kind of, I don't the right word, "momentum" I think is the closest, where you feel with the unveiling of a scandal, of a crime, that people will be charged, and convicted, and things will change. At the moment I suppose it's looking possible that Mandelson will be offered up for justice at most.

Some of the videos / images are utterly horirifc - I feel sick.

its making me want to delete apps as well. Utterly horrific but it all needs to be unredacted. We need to burn these fuckers to the ground

but it’ll never happen because Trumps owns the FBI and DOJ and he’s in the files

Bloody well said

It also reminds me of things that came out after the Diddy case. There was one young woman who claimed to have been trafficked and was at his freak out parties. The similarities are striking. There's no way of knowing how much of it is true, but at this point, who knows?

I doubt it. With all the blood sacrifice mentions in the Abrahamic religions, the ongoing suppression of women, the fact there isn’t a single book in the Bible written by a woman, and the fact that most of the evil men in this Epstein scandal presented themselves as Christians I think organised religion would be the last place to turn.

Isnt there a story in the Old Testament about god asking Abraham to kill his son as a blood sacrifice, only to change his mind at the last minute?

And didn’t Lot sleep with his own daughters?

I don’t think organised religion is the answer here.

Or turn away from faith …thinking if there is a God why does he let people do this?

Maybe conspiracy theorists chatting about Hollywood/ Disney/ elite paedophile rings murdering up to hundreds of thousands of children aren't as barmy as they sound. Although the 'remains are pushed into food chain to get rid of evidence' could be pushing it, although at this point just about anything is possible, I'm getting to the point of wondering just how evil these people could be and what will eventually will be exposed.

Whatever the truth is its vile and those involved deserve to be exposed.

Exactly. It’s really odd that some people only seem to care about women and children when they think perpetrators of the violence might be Muslim.

Decent human beings care about all victims. This latest scandal involves some of the most powerful people in our society. Of course we’re talking about it.

Same here.

Ive removed my social apps as I was suffering from reading it.

With the Satanic themes, I wonder how many will turn to faith in light of this…

I think it's possible to feel outraged about both at the same time tbh. It's just male violence against vulnerable women, whatever form it takes.

Did a new crimes list just drop about the grooming scandal? No then stfu. Why do you think people are talking about the Epstein files? The president of the USA is a potential pedophile and you somehow want to say look over there…
Look at the files they are taking about murder, cannibalism and child torture on a grand scale.

It is headline news but so much is redacted it’s hard to hold people to account. There were People who know exactly what went on. There is more evidence and there are hundreds of witnesses, and…. Nothing.

And NO, it's not being reported in MSM. Yes, were hearing about Andrew and Mandelson, but the actual details of what's being exposed in the emails isn't . There's been 3'million pages dumped, so that's a huge amount to go through and of course it will take time and thankfully, there's a lot of pp who are taking the time to go through it, but so far we've had references to torture, murder, trafficking, transing children, eugenics, how to deal with the problem of poor people, and the last thing I saw, how to engineer an STI which will increase women's libido. And so many pp, Harvard intellectuals, business owners, politicians, pp like Woody Allen, Deepak Chopra. It will all come out in the end, but it feels so much darker and more depraved than any of us could have ever imagined...

Where does one find the definitive list

I always thought that David Icke was onto something!

And relieved to see that Rufus Sewell isn’t mentioned.

Beginning to think that pretty much every “A lister”, most politicians and royalty are involved and every billionaire.

Quite.

Well she’s serving a sentence for her own crimes. Let’s not imply she has any degree of innocence. But yes..where are the men in prison?

All the people up in arms over the Epstein files (which are horrific, I’m not denying that) - but do you feel the same outrage over the grooming gangs? Which affected many more children, up and down the country. Where is the outrage about that?