The most pernicious secret about Reform

I call a spade a spade. I'm not going to stop calling Reform far right simply to make you feel better about your voting intentions. If you want to vote for a far right party, why not just own it? Presumably you don't think there is any shame in it?

Another of Farage's pals.

"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women. If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead. … You've got to be strong. You've got to be aggressive. You've got to push back hard. You've got to deny anything that's said about you. Never admit." Trump.

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Also Trump.

Vote Farage. Get a man in a Trump hat.

I agree. They want to erase women entirely.

I would suggest that by the standard of calling Reform ‘far right’, then the policies of the Greens are pretty far left and Labour seems to be aspiring to that too.

But maybe PPs can stop calling Reform ‘far right’ and everyone can have a more productive conversation.

We have a Reform Council. Only 12% of the Reform Councillors are women.

They aren't all old men though. There are a few young incel types.

I'm deeply disappointed by the failure of most political parties to give a clear statement of intent of protecting single sex spaces for women. However, I haven't yet reached the stage where if they pinned a rosette on a pig and called it GC it'd get my vote.

It's interesting how few Reform candidates are women. At the last election only 16% of their candidates were women. That's half the average number of female candidates across the board.

If all Reform council candidates had been elected it would have widened the gender gap in our councils. That can't be said about Green, Labour or Tory candidates.

Look at photos of Reform meetings and you see that less than 1 in 4 are women and it's an even smaller number if you look at the platform. It's a sea of men with grey hair.

You can see why these men want to keep what they have to themselves. Never has the phrase "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" been more appropriate.

He's looking to deregulate and make more money for himself and his cronies. He doesn't give a crap about anyone else (whether they voted for him or not).

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Don't be so ridiculous. I'm in Ireland where we have the GRA and it still fucking mattered that when I was dying of sepsis I could have an abortion. I'm sick of these men can't be women people being happy to throw abortion away just to stick it to trans people. I used to be vocal about men can't be women until I realised who it was I was aligning myself with and just how little they care about women.

I pity them really. Imagine voting them in and then gradually realising what you've done?!

My guess is that will be the case for a lot of voters if they get their wish, @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack . Still, at least they'll have stuck it to the 'elites', eh?.

@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack

The women that I know who back reform are privileged and so women’s rights have never been important to them. They have husbands who pay for everything, they are worried about immigration and they hate ‘woke’. Think Pam in Gavin & Stacey, although I have no idea how Pam would have voted!

His number 2 guy is a Muslim though?

@EuclidianGeometryFan aren't you the person who should be able to answer that question? I often wonder what Green voters are thinking. Why did you support them?

Reform have also said that they would like to see ICE-style enforcement on British streets. Unbelievable

In answer to your question, OP, I don't think the misogyny is a secret at all, but it's clear that some are choosing to stick their fingers in their ears and look away. They pretend they can't see it. Presumably because they like the racism. Though they obviously pretend they can't see that either.

It's really very hard to comprehend why any woman would actually vote for Reform. It doesn't even take much in the way of critical thinking skills to work out what they stand for. Internalised misogyny, maybe? Or perhaps just wishful thinking?

I pity them really. Imagine voting them in and then gradually realising what you've done?!

@HangingOutAtTheRialto and yet the public are falling for it! I have family members who are solidly backing reform, it’s depressing.

@JustSomeWaferThinHam

What bothered me about Reform’s position on online safety is that Farage pitched this as some type of online freedom issue and had no proposal at all for any form of protection for children online. That told me loud and clear that he didn’t care about children. He gave some reasons such as teens will access porn via a VPN, but that argument is as silly as saying underage drinking should be allowed because teens will find alcohol anyway. He literally had no suggestions about improving online safety for children.

Women shouldn’t just worry about abortion rights.

Farage doesn’t believe in a free NHS or current women’s rights like maternity leave either. He totally would sell NHS services to US insurance companies to improve his personal wealth after he’s served in government. I think he’d follow his hero Trump and do things like that withdraw the UK from WHO.

They assume it won't affect them.

Fools.

There isn't a large mainstream 'far left' party in the UK. It would be the Communist Party of Britain or maybe the Socialist Workers' Party, but neither have a big foothold.

Anyone voting for extremes of anything would come to regret their choices, one would think.

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The message is clear. They don't want any migrants here because they believe that there is a risk that migrant men might rape or abuse their women and children. They want it to be known that they have an exclusive right to rape and abuse these women and children themselves, and they will do whatever it takes to protect those rights. They are essentially defending their property.

He's a liar. Frequently says one thing and does another.

Quacking on about protecting our children and voting against online safety laws.

Bleating about protecting women yet voting against upskirting laws.

Being the big gob behind Brexit which (knowingly) royally fucked farmers and then putting himself front and centre, waving the flag for British agriculture and 'save our farmers' when the inheritance tax was brought back.

Claiming the reason he has never held a surgery in his constituency is because he has been advised by the speaker's office that it is unsafe to do so. This has been confirmed as a lie by the speaker's office themselves who said they'd never given that advice.

Omits to declare his financial interests and expenses. He's one of many in his party. He's not the only murky politician, lord knows, but he sure is scuzzy. I don't know how anyone is still falling for it.

Can you share which of their policies are ‘far right’?

I have noticed a plethora of smears and frankly outlandish claims on this thread but have seen zero evidence to back any of them.

The Lib Dem’s have gone so far as to confirm that they were wrong to describe Reform as ‘far right’ as it is patently incorrect.

People who have voted far left tend to regret their decisions. According to history.

Is it racist for local people to be upset about 3 of their young girls being brutally murdered by a young man that was not stopped because of his race and the authorities then lied to the public about his race and tried to conceal his motivations?

DV is sadly very common, especially in deprived areas. I’m not sure you are making any point of interest.