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To say don't use a wood burner if you have children in the house?

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MojoMoon · 06/02/2026 08:46

AIBU to say anyone using a wood burning stove with children in the house when it is for cosy vibes and other forms of heating are available should be viewed the same way as someone smoking with children in the room or the car?

Particulate pollution has been linked to miscarriage, low birth weight, respiratory problems and a higher risk of developing dementia.

Why do wood burning defenders respond so vigorously to studies like this? Is it because they have spent money on a wood burning stove and don't want to accept that they should remove it? Is it because they have a feeling of guilt about having been using it with children for years and worry about the damage already done? Or do they simply not believe particulates to be dangerous despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary.

Study:

Children living in homes with wood burners could be exposed to over three times more particulate pollution than those in non-wood-burning homes. The results come from a study that looked at air pollution experienced by primary schoolchildren in Wales.

Fifty-three children from two primary schools in Anglesey (Ynys Môn) were given backpacks equipped with air pollution sensors. They took the packs home and carried them during their journeys to and from school.
Dr Hanbin Zhang, from the University of Exeter and part of the study team, said: “One thing that stood out was the home environment. This was the largest contributor to children’s daily particle pollution exposure – more than school or commuting. This was mainly due to indoor sources such as wood burning and indoor smoking.”

Short peaks in particle pollution were linked to home cooking and secondhand tobacco smoke. Home heating with a fire or stove was linked to longer exposures. In some cases, these persisted overnight in children’s bedrooms as fires remained lit or smouldering with poor ventilation.
Prof Zhiwen Luo from Cardiff University, who led the study said: “During home hours, the average particle pollution in non-smoking homes with wood burners was about 13 micrograms per cubic metre compared with 3.5 micrograms per cubic metre in non-smoking homes without wood burners.
“The study is small, but the contrast was consistent and supports the conclusion that wood burning can substantially increase indoor particle pollution.”
One school was in Holyhead, and the other was in a rural area. We often think of towns and cities are being the most polluted places, but on average, researchers found urban children experienced less particle pollution, compared with those at the rural school.
The study took place in winter, and researchers attributed these differences to contrasts in wood burning. This took place in 21% of homes for the urban schoolchildren and 53% in the rural school.

Cooking added to the measured air pollution, especially when the backpacks were left close to the kitchen in the children’s homes. Short pollution peaks were also measured when children walked past bakeries and restaurants on the high street.

Particle pollution inside the schools was much lower than during travel and at home.

Children who walked to and from school experienced less pollution compared with children who were driven. Parental smoking while driving produced the highest concentrations measured in the study.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/06/children-living-homes-wood-burners-exposed-pollution?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301479725042677?via%3Dihub

University of Exeter

https://experts.exeter.ac.uk/41457-hanbin-zhang

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Violinist64 · 07/02/2026 11:21

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 07/02/2026 11:05

Loads of them died of asthma and bronchitis 🙄

I don't disagree with you and am aware of that, which is why I wrote that it was not necessarily a good thing. People had no alternative and knew no different but the vast majority lived well and many are still alive and enjoying a healthy old age. My point is that it is impossible to eliminate all risks and still have a good quality of life. In fifty years' time, people will probably be horrified at many of the things we consider normal today and log burners may not make the list.

ASometimeThing · 07/02/2026 11:12

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:34

no idea what those numbers mean
where did you get the air quality measurer from?

Those numbers mean the air quality is excellent. I have the monitor because I need it for work, but they’re easy to buy and cost about £80 for a good one.

climbintheback · 07/02/2026 11:11

Are they using predominantly coal in Wales?

SpaceRaccoon · 07/02/2026 11:07

Costell9 · 07/02/2026 10:38

Thanks. And does this happen with open fires too or is it only with woodburners?
I have a woodburner so am interested in what you've explained.

I've not lived in a house with an open fire since childhood so I'm no expert, but I'd guess not, or to a lesser extent, as it's not enclosed? It's the heat of the actual wood burner unit that causes the secondary combustion effect. Observed from outside, there shouldn't really be visible smoke coming from the chimney then.

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 07/02/2026 11:05

Violinist64 · 06/02/2026 10:11

How did people cope up until at least the latter half of the twentieth century when central heating was uncommon and coal fires were the normal way to heat a room? Paraffin stoves were often an alternative. In addition to this, many adults were smokers so children were exposed to a lot of pollution in the house. I am not saying it was a good thing but I think a bit of perspective is needed here.

Loads of them died of asthma and bronchitis 🙄

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2026 11:00

BiddyPopthe2nd · 07/02/2026 10:39

What would a similar study have found 40
years ago when smoking was much more prevalent and open fires burning wetter wood and smoky coal were the norm, and central heating was only becoming normal with many homes not having it or using less efficient oil boilers?

wood burning stoves and modern kiln dried wood have far far fewer particulates and smoke released than the older forms of open fires, and also retain much more heat in the home so are a lot more efficient. And wood is a renewable fuel source rather than gas or oil for central heating boilers. As well as being a very useful backup source of heat for when there is no electricity and the boiler won’t work because of that.

Backup power/heat sources are essential for rural areas, currently. Going forward, diverse energy sources also seem sensible. Given global energy supply pressures.

FoxRedPuppy · 07/02/2026 10:49

I live in an area where some people still receive a coal pension. Imagine that would blow your mind!

If we banned diesel vehicles from cities, how would we get anything delivered to restaurants and shops? We need decent alternatives onto diesel HGVs first.

NotMeNoNo · 07/02/2026 10:45

It should be "Don't use a wood burner unless you have no other heating and no neighbours".

The risks to the community air quality generally from the particulates pumped out of the chimney are well established. But people seem incapable of caring about anyone outside their household so it's come down to a debate of indoor air quality. It doesn't surprise me though and it's easy to measure.

Nobody wants to face the fact they wasted £1000's having one put in their suburban home. It is just like it took over a generation to be convinced of the danger of smoking.

BiddyPopthe2nd · 07/02/2026 10:39

What would a similar study have found 40
years ago when smoking was much more prevalent and open fires burning wetter wood and smoky coal were the norm, and central heating was only becoming normal with many homes not having it or using less efficient oil boilers?

wood burning stoves and modern kiln dried wood have far far fewer particulates and smoke released than the older forms of open fires, and also retain much more heat in the home so are a lot more efficient. And wood is a renewable fuel source rather than gas or oil for central heating boilers. As well as being a very useful backup source of heat for when there is no electricity and the boiler won’t work because of that.

Costell9 · 07/02/2026 10:38

SpaceRaccoon · 07/02/2026 09:27

It's called secondary burn. The smoky crap and particulates themselves get combusted by the heat rather than going up the chimney as soot. It keeps the flue nice and clean too as creosote doesn't form.

Thanks. And does this happen with open fires too or is it only with woodburners?
I have a woodburner so am interested in what you've explained.

Imanautumn · 07/02/2026 10:25

ASometimeThing · 06/02/2026 09:24

We have a modern, approved wood burner with good ventilation in the room. We burn only wood that has been seasoned.

I recently tested the air quality when it had been running for hours and it remained excellent.

Comparing a woodburner to hot-boxing children in a car is just silly.

What air tester do you have?

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2026 10:10

justtheotheronemrswembley · 07/02/2026 10:09

I'd rather drink my own vomit than read the Daily Mail.

Ew. That seems quite an extreme respons.

justtheotheronemrswembley · 07/02/2026 10:09

I'd rather drink my own vomit than read the Daily Mail.

soupyspoon · 07/02/2026 09:55

SpaceRaccoon · 07/02/2026 09:27

It's called secondary burn. The smoky crap and particulates themselves get combusted by the heat rather than going up the chimney as soot. It keeps the flue nice and clean too as creosote doesn't form.

Yes keeps the window of the burner nice and clean as well

soupyspoon · 07/02/2026 09:54

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Yes I think its inappropriate to talk about miscarriage when its so emotive and its natural to look for 'reasons', when in fact the vast majority of miscarriages dont have a reason at all, its very unfortunately quite a natural thing

SpaceRaccoon · 07/02/2026 09:27

Costell9 · 07/02/2026 04:34

What do you mean when you say 'once it's at temperature the particulates themselves get combusted'?
I don't understand this sentence.

It's called secondary burn. The smoky crap and particulates themselves get combusted by the heat rather than going up the chimney as soot. It keeps the flue nice and clean too as creosote doesn't form.

Sheknowsaboutme · 07/02/2026 07:27

Im just gonna come out with it and say jog on.

my cottage dated back to the late 1700s. Huge inglenook with a roaring multifuel burner. No aesthetically fake fire operated by a remote control would look right in it.

approved by hetas, fitted by a hetas engineer, which are given rules and regulations by the government.

so I aint worried a d frankly i don’t care. I pay for my wood and anthracite so i will burn away.

KeepYaHeadUp · 07/02/2026 06:15

YANBU. But it will fall on deaf ears. Wood-burner owners are evangelical and won’t hear a bad word against their excellent modern fixture.

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:34

ASometimeThing · 06/02/2026 18:56

This thread has inspired to me use my air quality monitor. Woodburner in our sitting room has been going for hours, as well as 2 3 wick candles. I put the monitor close to the fireplace.

Air pollution level 001 (fresh)
HCHO 0.002
TVOC 0.010
PM2.5 0.03

About as good as you can get 😊

no idea what those numbers mean
where did you get the air quality measurer from?

Inmyuggs · 07/02/2026 04:50

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ScoobyDooDooh · 07/02/2026 04:48

justasking111 · 06/02/2026 22:52

I'm fine with log burners. Scented candles on the other hand 😷. You'll find me in the garden coughing if friends burn them.

Diffusers can go to hell. I had a Rituals one and I fell asleep on the sofa and woke up gasping like an asthma attack and I don't have asthma. Got rid of the thing and was instantly better.

ScoobyDooDooh · 07/02/2026 04:46

I'm not a fan, I have a respiratory condition and I feel like it prolonged my cough when I was staying with family.

hoichinny · 07/02/2026 04:42

ASometimeThing · 06/02/2026 09:24

We have a modern, approved wood burner with good ventilation in the room. We burn only wood that has been seasoned.

I recently tested the air quality when it had been running for hours and it remained excellent.

Comparing a woodburner to hot-boxing children in a car is just silly.

How did you test the air quality? My eyes have started stinging when I use the woodburner (HETAS approved and fitted), using kiln dried wood

Costell9 · 07/02/2026 04:34

SpaceRaccoon · 06/02/2026 17:20

My wood burner is fine - no smoke gets into the room as it goes up the chimney, and once it's at temperature the particulates themselves get combusted - you won't actually see any smoke coming out of the flue.
My air purifier doesn't react to it, even when I open the door to add a log.
So I'm very happy to continue using it.

What do you mean when you say 'once it's at temperature the particulates themselves get combusted'?
I don't understand this sentence.

justasking111 · 06/02/2026 22:52

I'm fine with log burners. Scented candles on the other hand 😷. You'll find me in the garden coughing if friends burn them.

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