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To say don't use a wood burner if you have children in the house?

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MojoMoon · 06/02/2026 08:46

AIBU to say anyone using a wood burning stove with children in the house when it is for cosy vibes and other forms of heating are available should be viewed the same way as someone smoking with children in the room or the car?

Particulate pollution has been linked to miscarriage, low birth weight, respiratory problems and a higher risk of developing dementia.

Why do wood burning defenders respond so vigorously to studies like this? Is it because they have spent money on a wood burning stove and don't want to accept that they should remove it? Is it because they have a feeling of guilt about having been using it with children for years and worry about the damage already done? Or do they simply not believe particulates to be dangerous despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary.

Study:

Children living in homes with wood burners could be exposed to over three times more particulate pollution than those in non-wood-burning homes. The results come from a study that looked at air pollution experienced by primary schoolchildren in Wales.

Fifty-three children from two primary schools in Anglesey (Ynys Môn) were given backpacks equipped with air pollution sensors. They took the packs home and carried them during their journeys to and from school.
Dr Hanbin Zhang, from the University of Exeter and part of the study team, said: “One thing that stood out was the home environment. This was the largest contributor to children’s daily particle pollution exposure – more than school or commuting. This was mainly due to indoor sources such as wood burning and indoor smoking.”

Short peaks in particle pollution were linked to home cooking and secondhand tobacco smoke. Home heating with a fire or stove was linked to longer exposures. In some cases, these persisted overnight in children’s bedrooms as fires remained lit or smouldering with poor ventilation.
Prof Zhiwen Luo from Cardiff University, who led the study said: “During home hours, the average particle pollution in non-smoking homes with wood burners was about 13 micrograms per cubic metre compared with 3.5 micrograms per cubic metre in non-smoking homes without wood burners.
“The study is small, but the contrast was consistent and supports the conclusion that wood burning can substantially increase indoor particle pollution.”
One school was in Holyhead, and the other was in a rural area. We often think of towns and cities are being the most polluted places, but on average, researchers found urban children experienced less particle pollution, compared with those at the rural school.
The study took place in winter, and researchers attributed these differences to contrasts in wood burning. This took place in 21% of homes for the urban schoolchildren and 53% in the rural school.

Cooking added to the measured air pollution, especially when the backpacks were left close to the kitchen in the children’s homes. Short pollution peaks were also measured when children walked past bakeries and restaurants on the high street.

Particle pollution inside the schools was much lower than during travel and at home.

Children who walked to and from school experienced less pollution compared with children who were driven. Parental smoking while driving produced the highest concentrations measured in the study.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/06/children-living-homes-wood-burners-exposed-pollution?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301479725042677?via%3Dihub

University of Exeter

https://experts.exeter.ac.uk/41457-hanbin-zhang

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MojoMoon · 06/02/2026 11:14

It is indeed a small study with a novel research method.

But there are many studies to back up the premise that wood burning stoves, even eco design ones with seasoned wood, release a significant volume of PM2.5 particulates into the home and into the immediate local area.

The sciences that PM2.5 particulates are a significant health risk (miscarriage, low birth rates, dementia, asthma and cancer in particular) is very well established and the risks are particularly significant during pregnancy and childhood.

Yes humans have been having fires for millennia. They also tended to die quite young by the standards we might hope for today

In most cases, using a stove is a choice. It might be more expensive or less cosy or more inconvenient to use something else but it is possible. And I would prioritise my health and my children's health (and my neighbours) over that.

Why post it? Because when wood burning stoves are discussed, the psychology of denial of the risks is fascinating and there are various studies on that like this one; https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421522002427#:~:text=This%20soundness%20had%20to%20do,et%20al.%2C%202013).

But mostly I posted it because a poster above said they didn't know about the risks and will look into it more and consider changing their behaviour or plans and two others have messaged me directly saying something similar.

And I hope others also look at and consider that although it might be uncomfortable to accept or inconvenient, that they and their children and their neighbours will have a lower risk of serious health impacts by not putting the stove on .

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/emissions-of-air-pollutants

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4433/11/12/1326

https://eeb.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Where-theres-fire-theres-smoke_domestic-heating-study_2021.pdf

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/2024/woodburning-creates-major-pm2.5-air-pollution-issue-in-west-midlands

https://www.islington.gov.uk/-/media/sharepoint-lists/public-records/environmentalprotection/information/adviceandinformation/20222023/mapping-solid-fuel-hotspots.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/393263889_Particulate_matter_exposure_from_different_heating_stoves_and_fuels_in_UK_homes

https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/air-pollution-and-mental-health

https://www.dsawsp.org/health/particle-pollution

Emissions of air pollutants

An annual publication covering the emissions of some important air pollutants.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/emissions-of-air-pollutants

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Grammarnut · 06/02/2026 11:14

awakeandasleep · 06/02/2026 11:06

Yes this is interesting. What about if you put on the car filter to stop outside fumes? Is it better to keep this off and smell the fumes? It is all so confusing. Does anyone know the answer to this?

Edited

Yes, the answer is to ignore scaremongering and to check what is actually being said. Statistics are dangerous weapons when offered to people who do not understand how statistics work.

wishingonastar101 · 06/02/2026 11:13

PolarGear · 06/02/2026 11:09

In numbers terms, the number of children negatively impacted by being driven to school when they could walk/scoot/cycle is going to be massively higher than the number of children being negatively impacted by living in a home with a wood burner.

We live in an area with no gas. We have an oil fired boiler and wood burners for heating. The emissions from the oil boiler absolutely stink, really really worryingly gross. I deliberately use it less and wood burners more....Hobson's Choice maybe? But comparing me to a parent that smokes tobacco with their dc in the car is frankly mad.

I find it so weird when some says "this thing is bad for your health" people come out and say "but this other thing is worse"... two things can be bad... two things can be avoided / changed.

Lemondrizzle4A · 06/02/2026 11:13

Three years ago we replaced our open fire. We read up on everything and in the end went for an expensive( cast iron) electric fire. It was the worst decision we ever made. Looks good but I miss the real thing so this year I am going to be really naughty and invest in a wood burner. Yes I care about the environment but
Im afraid my well being as Insee it out bids the environmental impact I will have.
I will only be using seasoned wood and it will not be used every day.
I’m expecting lots of negative posts.

explanationplease · 06/02/2026 11:12

The British Lung Foundation advises against coal fires and wood burners for anyone with any type of lung issues, including asthma. Smoke from heating wood enters neighbouring homes too

https://www.asthmaandlung.org.uk/sites/default/files/Indoor%20air%20pollution%20downloadable%20PDF.pdf

itsthetea · 06/02/2026 11:10

I think the smoking analogy is good - it did take decades for people to accept the evidence - it will take a new generation because too many older people are too set in their ways and know best

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 11:10

MollyFeather · 06/02/2026 10:57

Sir Richard Doll had similar backlash in the 1950s when he made the link between smoking and lung cancer. People absolutely did not want to hear - why? Because smoking was enjoyable and fashionable and relaxing. All the things a wood burner is.

People will wake up eventually but I appreciate it’s a tough thing to U turn on when you’ve just had one fitted or you’ve spent a load of money on one and enjoy using it. It takes time to step outside of those thoughts and think dispassionately and actually look at the evidence

This.

PolarGear · 06/02/2026 11:09

In numbers terms, the number of children negatively impacted by being driven to school when they could walk/scoot/cycle is going to be massively higher than the number of children being negatively impacted by living in a home with a wood burner.

We live in an area with no gas. We have an oil fired boiler and wood burners for heating. The emissions from the oil boiler absolutely stink, really really worryingly gross. I deliberately use it less and wood burners more....Hobson's Choice maybe? But comparing me to a parent that smokes tobacco with their dc in the car is frankly mad.

Spookyspaghetti · 06/02/2026 11:08

nannyl · 06/02/2026 11:02

YABU

living in a 300 year old listed building, which has been heated by fire for the whole of time, who are you to tell me how to heat my home?

We live high up in the middle of the countryside, so our air is much cleaner than those who chose to live in the city, and I'm not suggesting that all these families move to areas with clean air, darkness and quiet.

Our stove is serviced regularly and during winter power cuts, it can keep as alive and warm rather than freezing to death.

Its also much cheaper to run than using the boiler to heat 22 radiators in our farm house (which we use in the morning and evening), the stove plus aga keep downstairs warm during the day.

Yes but the cleaner air is outside and the wood burner is inside so unless you are keeping doors and windows open to increase airflow which would defeat the purpose then its an irrelevant point.

Of course you are entitled to cary on as you see fit. The op is just raising awareness.

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 11:08

titchy · 06/02/2026 10:54

Completely missing the point but why would AHRC be funding science stuff? Which makes me think it’s not very robust cos humanities people tend to be humanities experts not science experts.

They're just the funders, they didn't carry out the actual research.

Ohthatsabitshit · 06/02/2026 11:08

We have open fires and a wood burner as did my parents, grandparents and great grandparents. I don’t think this is a huge “risk” and would be more focused on exercise and outside time for lung health myself.

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 11:06

Goldfsh · 06/02/2026 11:02

Except literally every post on this subject says that if you need it for heating, fair enough. This is referring to the use of log burners in cities etc. where it is a cosy lifestyle choice.

Exactly. I sympathise with people living so rurally that their options are genuinely limited. In that case, it could make sense to trade the evidenced risk of wood burners to your health and the environment against the real constraints you have in finding a healthier alternative.

For most people, though, that is not the case, and it's better they have this information so they can be properly informed on how to look after their health and that of their children and neighbours.

wishingonastar101 · 06/02/2026 11:06

soupyspoon · 06/02/2026 10:53

Yes same here, Im not concerned about it.

Children are at far greater risk from traffic and obesity.

But surely you mitigate the risk of being hit by a car by teaching them road safety and reduce the risk of obesity by teaching them about healthy living? Why would you not mitigate the risk of smoke inhalation by not burning stuff in your home?

awakeandasleep · 06/02/2026 11:06

Spookyspaghetti · 06/02/2026 11:04

That is really interesting, thank you!

One thing that stands out is that air pollution/particulate pollution is worse inside the car than outside. (Presumably the wind and airflow can disperse it a bit more) So driving is actually worse for the health of the person driving on top of increasing air pollution for those around them.

Yes this is interesting. What about if you put on the car filter to stop outside fumes? Is it better to keep this off and smell the fumes? It is all so confusing. Does anyone know the answer to this?

Anonanonay · 06/02/2026 11:06

You have to wonder how humanity made it this far.

Spookyspaghetti · 06/02/2026 11:04

That is really interesting, thank you!

One thing that stands out is that air pollution/particulate pollution is worse inside the car than outside. (Presumably the wind and airflow can disperse it a bit more) So driving is actually worse for the health of the person driving on top of increasing air pollution for those around them.

Grammarnut · 06/02/2026 11:03

We are talking micrograms here and among pollutants are listed cooking, passing a bakery etc. So we should live on raw food, avoid shops that sell food cooked on the premises and not heat our homes if we cannot use electricity to do it?

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 11:03

Another76543 · 06/02/2026 11:00

We have a serious childhood obesity problem, which is linked to all sorts of issues, increasing mental health concerns amongst young people, and yet here we are with people concerned about children living in houses with wood burners. I’d say, as a society, we have bigger issues to be concentrating on.

Can we only focus on one thing at a time, then?! Since when? And why?

Both are important and both just as deadly. They both need to be tackled.

Goldfsh · 06/02/2026 11:02

LVhandbagsatdawn · 06/02/2026 10:59

Well yes, I mean if someone is willing to give me the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of pounds to run gas mains from the road through two fields to my house, or to install sufficient solar panels and battery systems and rewire the house to install underfloor heating / electric radiators and boilers and showers etc, and to pay for accommodation while this goes on (which will take weeks), then sure maybe I'll get rid of the fires.

Until then, however...

Except literally every post on this subject says that if you need it for heating, fair enough. This is referring to the use of log burners in cities etc. where it is a cosy lifestyle choice.

nannyl · 06/02/2026 11:02

YABU

living in a 300 year old listed building, which has been heated by fire for the whole of time, who are you to tell me how to heat my home?

We live high up in the middle of the countryside, so our air is much cleaner than those who chose to live in the city, and I'm not suggesting that all these families move to areas with clean air, darkness and quiet.

Our stove is serviced regularly and during winter power cuts, it can keep as alive and warm rather than freezing to death.

Its also much cheaper to run than using the boiler to heat 22 radiators in our farm house (which we use in the morning and evening), the stove plus aga keep downstairs warm during the day.

Goldfsh · 06/02/2026 11:01

MollyFeather · 06/02/2026 10:57

Sir Richard Doll had similar backlash in the 1950s when he made the link between smoking and lung cancer. People absolutely did not want to hear - why? Because smoking was enjoyable and fashionable and relaxing. All the things a wood burner is.

People will wake up eventually but I appreciate it’s a tough thing to U turn on when you’ve just had one fitted or you’ve spent a load of money on one and enjoy using it. It takes time to step outside of those thoughts and think dispassionately and actually look at the evidence

Absolutely this.

I have an air filter and it spikes when my neighbour's put their (brand new, state-of-the-art apparently) log burner on. It's also the ONLY time I need to use my inhaler. I didn't realise the risks until they had it installed but when I read up on it, I was shocked.

I'm very grateful they got bored of it extremely quickly and only use it now when they have visitors around!

I think it's shocking when we've waged war on air pollution in cities - and made huge improvements - we allow unnecessary log burners to continue.

Another76543 · 06/02/2026 11:00

soupyspoon · 06/02/2026 10:53

Yes same here, Im not concerned about it.

Children are at far greater risk from traffic and obesity.

We have a serious childhood obesity problem, which is linked to all sorts of issues, increasing mental health concerns amongst young people, and yet here we are with people concerned about children living in houses with wood burners. I’d say, as a society, we have bigger issues to be concentrating on.

wishingonastar101 · 06/02/2026 11:00

awakeandasleep · 06/02/2026 10:57

I agree with this. Walking my dog in the winter over the last 15 years feels like stepping back in times to the Victorian era. The smog and fug in the air is awful. Half the houses on my road have log burners - I hate them. Hopefully they will go out of fashion in the next few years.

Agree! It's certainly a 'fashion' thing in certain parts of the country... no need at all.

LVhandbagsatdawn · 06/02/2026 10:59

Another76543 · 06/02/2026 10:50

This. Unfortunately some people don’t appreciate the conditions others are living in. Many communities don’t have a choice but to use this type of heating. It’s all very well someone sitting in their modern, well insulated, house with a gas supply saying “don’t burn wood, you’re harming your children”, but some families have no choice.

Well yes, I mean if someone is willing to give me the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of pounds to run gas mains from the road through two fields to my house, or to install sufficient solar panels and battery systems and rewire the house to install underfloor heating / electric radiators and boilers and showers etc, and to pay for accommodation while this goes on (which will take weeks), then sure maybe I'll get rid of the fires.

Until then, however...

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 10:57

HarryVanderspeigle · 06/02/2026 10:33

I would welcome a good study into the issue, this one seems to have quite a few flaws/gaps. I also question why wood burning is the only thing mentioned when lots of other things in the study were said to raise pollution.

  • The sample size is tiny and from only one location.
  • There is no mention of whether the fires are open, older log burner, or modern standards ones.
  • Cooking with gas vs electricity is not mentioned.
  • Equivalent particle emissions per unit of energy produced by power stations are not mentioned.
  • It recommended cutting wood burning, but not cigarette burning, or gas fires, so implies a bias or agenda.
  • It doesn't look into why people burn wood, or how to replace it. If they have no access to mains gas for a boiler, they may have no choice.

We have a log burner and have a fire every week or two. We also have solar panels and cook with electricity, not gas. I can't honestly believe that is a major issue.

Great that you would welcome a good study, there are lots of them, this is just the latest. A quick Google will turn them up.

My guess would be wood burning is particularly focused on in the study because it's one of the easiest problems to solve and one of the areas of least public awareness, currently. Unless you are living very rurally and genuinely stuck for other options, wood burners are a 'nice to have' instead of a necessity. An easy switch for most people, that can instantly reduce harm quite significantly.

I agree that I would like to see more publicity around the risks of cooking with gas, and also the fact that unnecessarily large cars (eg driving a Range Rover in London) also contribute unnecessarily to harmful particulate pollution (they release more particulates from tyres and brakes than smaller, lighter vehicles). But that doesn't negate the importance of getting the message out about wood burning - we need to tackle this on multiple fronts, across all areas where it can be reduced.

There are good reasons why health and environmental organisations like Cancer Research UK, British Heart Foundation, Asthma and Lung UK, Alzheimer's UK, Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace all back the reduction of wood burning and other sources of particulate matter.