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Work trip to USA

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Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 07:54

I'm in a senior role and there's talk of a work trip to US this year. For context I've been to the US multiple times and even lived in NYC for a year a long time ago.

However I'm British Asian and I don't want to go - it's a very different place to the one I lived in.

At the moment it's not a firmed up plan but we'll be going to number of places (not just the more left wing cities) and I want to be ready to discuss it when the time comes.

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AnSolas · 06/02/2026 23:16

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:53

Yes, it did, but I think it’s safe to say it hasn’t put people off using public transport in London. As I said, millions of people use it daily, and pretty much rely on it. Few people in London have enough money to avoid using public transport altogether. I’m very surprised that an isolated incident from over twenty years ago has affected you so much. Are you a survivor of it?

Edited

I am point out the OP needs to do a risk assessment of the location the OP is travelliing to for work

Ponderingwindow · 06/02/2026 23:06

Big companies often have special travel security plans for particular international destinations. That can mean special rules about bringing your electronics, extra travel allowances so you don’t walk in cities, or even hired security escorts. Some places we might travel, we get briefings like to simply presume the hotel room is bugged.

I would start by asking if your company has done a recent review on their travel policies for the U.S. will they be providing fresh laptops with minimal installs? Will they be providing burner phones for both work and personal use?

Rather than outright refuse, ask them to show they are taking security seriously. Then decide if you are comfortable with their plan.

apeaceful2026 · 06/02/2026 23:06

Have lived in the USA as a white person in the first trump administration, when it wasn't even like today,and don't think you're being unreasonable at all.

WhatdoIkno · 06/02/2026 23:01

Enrichetta · 06/02/2026 18:50

US immigration officials can be quite abrupt, but in what way are they always giving you a hard time, even though you are there for legitimate business purposes?

I can understand why you would rather not go, but don’t shoot yourself in the foot careerwise because of your fears. Simply answer questions politely but as briefly as possible, without adding unnecessary details.

And obviously make sure your visa/esta and business paperwork are in order.

I’ve worked for US software companies for 25+ years and am married to an America, so have been in and out of the US many times. I can attest to the abruptness of US immigration and I can attest that many officers are professional. I can also speak to a number of both British Asian colleagues and Indian colleagues who have had major problems even prior to Trump. That included one senior member of our mgmt - British Asian - who always planned for an assumed three hour hold on entry, despite being and even more regular visitor to the US than me.

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:53

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 22:44

however it happened

Yes, it did, but I think it’s safe to say it hasn’t put people off using public transport in London. As I said, millions of people use it daily, and pretty much rely on it. Few people in London have enough money to avoid using public transport altogether. I’m very surprised that an isolated incident from over twenty years ago has affected you so much. Are you a survivor of it?

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 22:44

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:42

London public transport is extremely safe. Millions of people use it daily with no problems, and the only major incident on it was the 2005 bombings, which was terrible but happened once in the 200+-year history of London’s public transport network.

however it happened

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:42

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 22:19

If you risk assess

The trains and buses of major cities were used as targets by terrorist eg Japan Spain and the UK.

HGV etc are used in open public spaces.

If the OP is worried about a trip to the US the company should be doing a proper risk assessment.

Its 4 years out from a failed revolution and has not recovered from the political unrest. Then there is the change in policing and any political unrest should be assessed in conjunction with its local staff.

London public transport is extremely safe. Millions of people use it daily with no problems, and the only major incident on it was the 2005 bombings, which was terrible but happened once in the 200+-year history of London’s public transport network.

HArderthan1thought · 06/02/2026 22:21

YANBU - look up the the recent testimony of US citizen Aliyah Rahman about her experience at the hands of ICE.
Edited to add - her experience from Jan 2026.

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 22:19

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:08

Why is getting the tube and buses in London not safe anymore?! I live in London and get public transport most days, as do millions of other Londoners and visitors, and quite a few people on this thread, I would imagine.

If you risk assess

The trains and buses of major cities were used as targets by terrorist eg Japan Spain and the UK.

HGV etc are used in open public spaces.

If the OP is worried about a trip to the US the company should be doing a proper risk assessment.

Its 4 years out from a failed revolution and has not recovered from the political unrest. Then there is the change in policing and any political unrest should be assessed in conjunction with its local staff.

BumbleBee7891 · 06/02/2026 22:14

I was in NYC recently and I have to say...it felt really on edge, more than usual. Maybe it was psychological, I must be watching too much news. I saw police cars patrolling in Central Park and I instantly felt a bit stressed.

I wouldn't risk going to a southern state if I was anything other than a white blonde man, and even that isn't without risk these days it seems.

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:08

@OhDear111 what’s a ‘standard British person’??

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 22:08

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 20:45

Why?

If your company is working overseas your travel security is something which it should take into account.

I have worked medium size companies which has one recommendion that staff always have ther luggage brought up by a staff to make sure the room was empty and only take taxis which were arranged by the hotel or company

An international one which had kidnapp insurance and a ransom rescue team and had strict travel rules about having the local staff arrange visitor movement in some parts of the world.

Another which had to try manage political unrest which left local workers trapped on site for days and their famalies trapped at home.

Most will not book senior managers on the same planes anymore.

And just getting the tube and buses in London is not a safe activity any more.

The US is not going to have any more danger than is had before for a documented non-national traveling on business. And if the local staff feel there could be a problem they will be able to notify you and the UK office.

Your main risk from State actors is that you dont know how to manage interactions with an armed police force. Or that you would panic if you think you may be detained/arrested. "Mainly peaceful protest" is not happening and other political activism is usually avoidable.

Why is getting the tube and buses in London not safe anymore?! I live in London and get public transport most days, as do millions of other Londoners and visitors, and quite a few people on this thread, I would imagine.

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 22:01

VacayDreamer · 06/02/2026 19:18

many years ago I very boldly told my US senior management that I would not travel to mainland China due to their human rights record.

I held my breath

our conference was relocated (ironically to the USA but those were different times…)

Avoid histrionics, make a reasonable case, see what happens.

That's a great outcome.

Not the same but I was supposed to go on a work trip to China in Dec 2019. I said I didn't feel comfortable and slowly the other people on the trip also decided (despite initial enthusiasm for going) to pull out too. We didn't know exactly what was round the corner in 2020 but very glad I held my ground.

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AnSolas · 06/02/2026 20:45

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:19

Thank you.

To be honest this list of questions is putting me off even more. It's one thing going somewhere you'd be uncomfortable/fearful for family/life or death but I just don't see why I should do it for a commercial reason.

Why?

If your company is working overseas your travel security is something which it should take into account.

I have worked medium size companies which has one recommendion that staff always have ther luggage brought up by a staff to make sure the room was empty and only take taxis which were arranged by the hotel or company

An international one which had kidnapp insurance and a ransom rescue team and had strict travel rules about having the local staff arrange visitor movement in some parts of the world.

Another which had to try manage political unrest which left local workers trapped on site for days and their famalies trapped at home.

Most will not book senior managers on the same planes anymore.

And just getting the tube and buses in London is not a safe activity any more.

The US is not going to have any more danger than is had before for a documented non-national traveling on business. And if the local staff feel there could be a problem they will be able to notify you and the UK office.

Your main risk from State actors is that you dont know how to manage interactions with an armed police force. Or that you would panic if you think you may be detained/arrested. "Mainly peaceful protest" is not happening and other political activism is usually avoidable.

Forgotmyshades · 06/02/2026 19:20

I'm a British Asian with PR living in Virginia. As long as you're not lying on your visa, committing crime or putting yourself in the middle of police / law enforcement operations you'll be just fine.

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:19

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 19:11

What is your firm EU or US based?
Big international multinational or national organisation with US branches/links?

What travel policy are in place?

What happens if you were arrested?
Will your firm front bail bond and immigration lawyer or are you on your own?

If there are concerns or the visit location is a "hot spot" what mitigattion can the local organisation put into place?

Thank you.

To be honest this list of questions is putting me off even more. It's one thing going somewhere you'd be uncomfortable/fearful for family/life or death but I just don't see why I should do it for a commercial reason.

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VacayDreamer · 06/02/2026 19:18

many years ago I very boldly told my US senior management that I would not travel to mainland China due to their human rights record.

I held my breath

our conference was relocated (ironically to the USA but those were different times…)

Avoid histrionics, make a reasonable case, see what happens.

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:17

InMyOodie · 06/02/2026 19:06

Honestly, if it's later in the year, I'd postpone worrying about it. Trump could have invoked the Insurrection Act by then to prevent the mid terms and you might find the trip is postponed.

Edited

Fair point! Timings not decided yet.

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DdraigGoch · 06/02/2026 19:15

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 18:05

Immigration at US airports always give me a hard time (I have a Muslim sounding surname). Hard to ignore the treatment of their own civillians, white or otherwise and I'll be a brown foreigner travelling to southern states.

I suppose that the one good thing about flying into the US at the moment is that most of the CBP arseholes have volunteered for field duty so it's the nicer officers left staffing the airports.

There's always the option of Irish preclearance though.

EachotherAndAnother · 06/02/2026 19:15

I'm also a brown-skinned British person and would be very reluctant to travel to the US in the current climate. @AnSolas raises some excellent questions to put to your employer if they're really keen for you to go. I would want to know that they had risk-assessed and had plans in place should there be any risk to your safety.

Lamelie · 06/02/2026 19:14

OhDear111 · 06/02/2026 10:02

@Wonderbug81 I think you are over thinking this. I assume you are just a standard British person? Are you going with colleagues? I would say your colleagues in the USA will be lovely, so what’s the issue? Do you think they won’t let you in? Be rude or racist to you? What evidence do you have to suggest there are difficulties with you going? Or do you just not like Trump? That’s political and not work related. How would refusing to go look at work?

You do realise they’re kidnapping and detaining people off the streets? And it’s not blond European types they’re harassing.

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 19:11

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:00

I've long ago learned to deal with US immigration.

I'm more concerned about the violence and unrest as well as the govt treat people from backgrounds like mine (or even just a white protestor...). The environment there is also so unpredicatable right now.

What is your firm EU or US based?
Big international multinational or national organisation with US branches/links?

What travel policy are in place?

What happens if you were arrested?
Will your firm front bail bond and immigration lawyer or are you on your own?

If there are concerns or the visit location is a "hot spot" what mitigattion can the local organisation put into place?

InMyOodie · 06/02/2026 19:06

Honestly, if it's later in the year, I'd postpone worrying about it. Trump could have invoked the Insurrection Act by then to prevent the mid terms and you might find the trip is postponed.

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:00

Enrichetta · 06/02/2026 18:50

US immigration officials can be quite abrupt, but in what way are they always giving you a hard time, even though you are there for legitimate business purposes?

I can understand why you would rather not go, but don’t shoot yourself in the foot careerwise because of your fears. Simply answer questions politely but as briefly as possible, without adding unnecessary details.

And obviously make sure your visa/esta and business paperwork are in order.

I've long ago learned to deal with US immigration.

I'm more concerned about the violence and unrest as well as the govt treat people from backgrounds like mine (or even just a white protestor...). The environment there is also so unpredicatable right now.

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Enrichetta · 06/02/2026 18:50

US immigration officials can be quite abrupt, but in what way are they always giving you a hard time, even though you are there for legitimate business purposes?

I can understand why you would rather not go, but don’t shoot yourself in the foot careerwise because of your fears. Simply answer questions politely but as briefly as possible, without adding unnecessary details.

And obviously make sure your visa/esta and business paperwork are in order.

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