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Work trip to USA

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Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 07:54

I'm in a senior role and there's talk of a work trip to US this year. For context I've been to the US multiple times and even lived in NYC for a year a long time ago.

However I'm British Asian and I don't want to go - it's a very different place to the one I lived in.

At the moment it's not a firmed up plan but we'll be going to number of places (not just the more left wing cities) and I want to be ready to discuss it when the time comes.

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 07/02/2026 13:15

Wonderbug81 · 07/02/2026 12:24

It's not necessarily ICE. It's the general environment and the unpredicatability of the govt, particularly as I'm going to a heavily Trump supporting state.

You're really over exaggerating and making things up now.

It's absolutely fine if you don't want to go but I live here and majority of Americans and visitors are going about their day to day business.

Going into a heavily Trump supporting state, and what are you expecting? That they setup roadblocks asking if you support Trump or not and shoot you if you say no????? Are you going to start political debates or do your work???

What southern state are you going because politics aside most southern states tend to be very friendly and respectful and it's actually purple haired mostly white liberals who are screaming like idiots, attacking people, wanting to know your political views so they can try to cancel you etc.

Go and do your business, treat everyone you meet with respect and avoid political and religious debates simple. And if you don't want to to go that's fine, speak to your boss and let them know.

As I've always said there's an unhealthy amount of news about the US being consumed in countries like the UK.

I don't know if it will help but this guy's recently visited the US from the UK and Ireland and had an amazing time in many statues including Louisiana in the south and I've seen a lot more recent videos from people who visited and have great times and enjoyed the hospitality of Americans irrespective if their political leanings. There's a lot of alarmist biased headlines and social media exaggerates things massively.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 07/02/2026 13:00

i think you should be ok. What does your company say about this? What is their advice?

My friend who’s Jewish lives there with 2 adopted South Korean children (grown up) 1 lives in Florida and the other Delaware or Philadelphia. They haven’t had any issues yet but her in-laws are in the south and she’s always said she’d never move there in the past due to racism. They’ve visited though.

Wonderbug81 · 07/02/2026 12:24

Ladyzfactor · 07/02/2026 00:25

I'm American, actually live pretty close to Minnesota. You need to remember that you are only seeing the news clips. A lot is sensational. America is very big with a lot of people. Mostly we are just going about as business as usual. ICE agents suck, but there not something you're going to realistically come across.

It's not necessarily ICE. It's the general environment and the unpredicatability of the govt, particularly as I'm going to a heavily Trump supporting state.

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AnSolas · 07/02/2026 12:03

Wonderbug81
The US justice system is just about holding the govt to account but you never know what's around the corner.

Non-nationals dont have the same rights as citizens so any risk assessment need to factor that in.

Wonderbug81 · 07/02/2026 11:59

Greengagesnfennel · 07/02/2026 00:26

Honestly, don’t believe the internet. Go there and see for yourself. The population and nation is not trump. The USA has been the place where minorities, race, gender, everything, can rise the to the highest roles (compared with elsewhere) for years and still is. I’m not American but I have worked there and they are not wrong it is the land of the free (comparatively - still work to do). If you think the uk and Europe are better you are wrong. They hide their racism behind politeness but it is way stronger. Trump is an aberration. I hope they get rid of him soon.

Yes I've lived and worked in the US myself.

I never said the UK was better although despite the race riots and the onslaught of Farage I feel much safer here (not least because of the lack of guns).

I'm going to be visiting prime Trump voting country so while I know it's not all Trump, some parts of the country definitely have the same mentality as he does.

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Wonderbug81 · 07/02/2026 11:51

AplineDaisies · 07/02/2026 00:53

One of my white British friends (travelling with his also white wife) got stopped in the US for five hours in the airport border control - a few weeks ago.
I would no way as an Asian person risk any of this.
I can't believe someone on an earlier post called you debating whether to go or not, histrionics. A lot of white people have absolutely no idea of what the reality is like for people of colour.

Thank you. There are some comments on here that absolutely show people have little understanding of what's it like. It's not just the 'ICE threat', it's the hostility, the unpredictably of the environment etc too.

The US justice system is just about holding the govt to account but you never know what's around the corner.

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AnSolas · 07/02/2026 11:16

JennyWren5 · 07/02/2026 11:13

I don’t know - because there’s a very small chance it might crash? Can you answer my original please about why London public transport is unsafe? I’m on a London bus right now, and everything is fine!

When do you think big corporations realised the danger of planes crashing into stuff?

JennyWren5 · 07/02/2026 11:13

AnSolas · 07/02/2026 07:52

Very good

Now why do you thinik the OPs company should not put all of her team / senior saff on the same plane?

I don’t know - because there’s a very small chance it might crash? Can you answer my original please about why London public transport is unsafe? I’m on a London bus right now, and everything is fine!

AnSolas · 07/02/2026 07:52

JennyWren5 · 07/02/2026 00:28

This makes no sense. Sorry. Are you referring to the U.K. riots in 2011 and 2024? I don’t understand why that makes you think London public transport unsafe?

Very good

Now why do you thinik the OPs company should not put all of her team / senior saff on the same plane?

Sweetiedarling7 · 07/02/2026 06:40

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:20

😂 😆

Is that you Karoline? I recognise your erudite tone.

AplineDaisies · 07/02/2026 00:53

One of my white British friends (travelling with his also white wife) got stopped in the US for five hours in the airport border control - a few weeks ago.
I would no way as an Asian person risk any of this.
I can't believe someone on an earlier post called you debating whether to go or not, histrionics. A lot of white people have absolutely no idea of what the reality is like for people of colour.

JennyWren5 · 07/02/2026 00:28

AnSolas · 07/02/2026 00:17

Here you go

Mainly peaceful protesting UK
2011
2024

This makes no sense. Sorry. Are you referring to the U.K. riots in 2011 and 2024? I don’t understand why that makes you think London public transport unsafe?

Greengagesnfennel · 07/02/2026 00:26

Honestly, don’t believe the internet. Go there and see for yourself. The population and nation is not trump. The USA has been the place where minorities, race, gender, everything, can rise the to the highest roles (compared with elsewhere) for years and still is. I’m not American but I have worked there and they are not wrong it is the land of the free (comparatively - still work to do). If you think the uk and Europe are better you are wrong. They hide their racism behind politeness but it is way stronger. Trump is an aberration. I hope they get rid of him soon.

Ladyzfactor · 07/02/2026 00:25

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 19:00

I've long ago learned to deal with US immigration.

I'm more concerned about the violence and unrest as well as the govt treat people from backgrounds like mine (or even just a white protestor...). The environment there is also so unpredicatable right now.

I'm American, actually live pretty close to Minnesota. You need to remember that you are only seeing the news clips. A lot is sensational. America is very big with a lot of people. Mostly we are just going about as business as usual. ICE agents suck, but there not something you're going to realistically come across.

AnSolas · 07/02/2026 00:17

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 23:45

Fine. Can you explain your dislike of London public transport though?

Here you go

Mainly peaceful protesting UK
2011
2024

eurotravel · 07/02/2026 00:07

I hear you. Lived there in 90s on east coast in enlightened areas. It was scarily black white divided. Even in New York State and city. That is why I didn’t stay. And I’m white. Lots ethnic mix but don’t ever recall seeing one hijab in 3 years and across loads states

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 23:45

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 23:26

You may be sure that the OPs workplace will do a risk assessment the OP clearly is not

Fine. Can you explain your dislike of London public transport though?

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:35

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2026 23:28

So you're in the " they deserved it" camp?

No, I believe in the right to protest but what many of those professional protestors are doing is NOT protesting. Attacking, driving your car, blocking agents, throwing objects at them, spitting at them etc is NOT protesting.

I live in Chicago and I am black FYI before anyone comes at with accusations of white privilege and I totally agree with what the head of the Chicago Police department said here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPgj87skRhT/?igsh=ajRrd2FraW9yNW5l

You can protest but attacking federal agents doing their job because you don't agree with the policy is absolutely wrong and it endangers the so called protesters, the agents but also the people they are trying to support.

And this mess is made worse by Democrat cities declaring themselves sanctuary cities then implementing policies that try to frustrate federal immigration enforcement all for their political gains. There's a reason Democrat cities who deare themselves sanctuary cities make it illegal to require ID to vote.

That's like Sadiq Khan declaring that London will not abide by Home Office immigration laws and then intentionally make moves to frustrate enforcement.

Here is another person saying the exact same thing, attacking federal agents is NOT protesting.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FCDhkLp13/

@StevenMcCoy on Instagram: "Yesterday morning, Chicago police Superintendent Larry Snelling addressed concerns after Chicago police officers en route to help federal agents who were being surrounded and menaced by an angry mob of ICE protesters were re...

76 likes, 19 comments - therealmccoyllc on October 7, 2025: "Yesterday morning, Chicago police Superintendent Larry Snelling addressed concerns after Chicago police officers en route to help federal agents who were being surrounded and menaced by an an...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPgj87skRhT?igsh=ajRrd2FraW9yNW5l

sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2026 23:29

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:20

😂 😆

Aah the laughing emoji. A sure sign of an intelligent thought out argument

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 23:29

I never said that.

I said 'To be honest this list of questions is putting me off even more. It's one thing going somewhere you'd be uncomfortable/fearful for family/life or death but I just don't see why I should do it for a commercial reason.'

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sleepwouldbenice · 06/02/2026 23:28

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:18

Really? Are you going to drive your car up to ICE agents or go "protest" in between meetings while you're there???

If you go your trip will be fine and nothing will happen, and it's fine if you don't want to go, tell your boss but millions of people are living normal lives in the US as we speak.

So you're in the " they deserved it" camp?

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 23:26

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 23:23

I’m sure the OP’s workplace will do a risk assessment.

I’m very curious though about why you think London public transport is so unsafe. It seems your main argument for this is a terrorist attack that happened nearly 21 years ago. But Brussels had terrorist attacks in one of its airports and train stations more recently (about 10 years ago), and I notice you’re not saying its public transport is unsafe?

You may be sure that the OPs workplace will do a risk assessment the OP clearly is not

JennyWren5 · 06/02/2026 23:23

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 23:16

I am point out the OP needs to do a risk assessment of the location the OP is travelliing to for work

I’m sure the OP’s workplace will do a risk assessment.

I’m very curious though about why you think London public transport is so unsafe. It seems your main argument for this is a terrorist attack that happened nearly 21 years ago. But Brussels had terrorist attacks in one of its airports and train stations more recently (about 10 years ago), and I notice you’re not saying its public transport is unsafe?

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:20

Lamelie · 06/02/2026 19:14

You do realise they’re kidnapping and detaining people off the streets? And it’s not blond European types they’re harassing.

😂 😆

Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/02/2026 23:18

Wonderbug81 · 06/02/2026 18:03

Thank you. I just don't know what my team can really say. ICE are trigger happy and the situation changes so fast over there.

I guess my boss could go without me but I wanted to gauge how significant that would be first.

Really? Are you going to drive your car up to ICE agents or go "protest" in between meetings while you're there???

If you go your trip will be fine and nothing will happen, and it's fine if you don't want to go, tell your boss but millions of people are living normal lives in the US as we speak.

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