Is this just getting ridiculous! UNIVERSAL CREDIT

That reminded me of my junior school teacher..."Nonsense" 🤣🤣

Most of the benefits bill is pensions but don't you fret, Kim Leadbeater's got that in hand.

Like who is working without pay? I'm lost here

If extra checks can prevent benefit fraud then I don’t think this is unreasonable as the benefit bill is currently unsustainable. Whether these are the right checks I don’t know but something needs to be done to reduce it

Nonsense.

Thank God they are getting their finger out!

😂Love it!

Problem is a lot of that wouldn't address fraud, it looks more like someone who knows very little about benefit fraud has just pulled some stuff out of their arse. I can think of a dozen people who wouldn't even ask "why?" if I asked them if I could take a pic of me with the key in their front door lock, they're so used to Insta that it wouldn't occur to them to wonder why I was setting up such a shot.

We waste an enormous amount of resources with "fraud checks" on blameless claimants instead of focusing on red flags. Losing the old signing on system facilitated fraud, as do ever greater moves to online management of claims. An elderly friend told tales of mooching about outside the dole office where he worked & catching fraudsters by the very simple dint of noting who arrived to sign on in works vehicles.

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Sorry. I do understand what you're saying. But it just seems like such a waste if time that they can't see that he was verified 'x' years ago. So rather than spend time replying to a message in someone's journal they have to look at paperwork that they've seen before.

I’m awfully glad they didn’t make us do the photos! When we claimed my DH was bed bound with 5 broken vertebrae. I don’t think the bed would have fitted through the door.

That said they did make him have ‘back to work’ interviews on the phone fortnightly until they finally realised he was terminally ill.

So yeah. They treat people abysmally.

What. Who is working for no pay?

That’s called volunteering, and it doesn’t fund UC claims.

Yeah but those who claim UC always agree to claimant commitments. If someone doesn’t like the requests/rules then the can always stop claiming 😉

That post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/child-benefit/view-proof-entitlement or https://www.gov.uk/guidance/download-the-hmrc-app to get the Child Benefit entitlement proof.

Registered disabled where? With whom?

UC fraud tends to be committed on a large scale by criminal gangs, by the way, not so much by individuals. I know it's enjoyable for a certain kind of person to believe that fraud is rife among ordinary claimants but sadly, they're going to have to find a new hobby because it's not.

I had something similar

The silly cow next door would ring them and tell them I was claiming as a single parent when I wasn't (i was!)

They would investigate and believe that whoever had rang them was shit stirring and drop the case

Then she'd ring them back and they'd investigate again

This went on for about 2 years when a snotty lady came round,sat in my lounge snapping question after question at me,trying to catch me out before telling me I 'had' to show her all our wardrobes to 'prove' I was living with my dc

I just told her to crack on as I had nothing to hide,so she did

She found a pair of men's pyjama bottoms in my wardrobe and claimed that was 'proof' I had a bloke living with me-just a pair of blue checked pj bottoms in with my 'female' clothes

Thankfully I was able to prove id bought them for me at the charity shop the day before and they where for my own use

Honest to god,it was inhumane they way she treated me but they never called back for some reason

So even though I proved in 2009 that he was born in 2006, they now think that might not be the case? Oddly enough his age hasn't changed. 6 months ago they were happy that I had an adult child. Now I have to prove it? Just seems like a waste of everyone's time!

Depends on the type of fraud. Eg if claimant states they live at X, they might show Y.

Ive heard of claimants being asked to go to a local landmark too. Proves they are in the area at least. Ai photos arent as good as you think they are.

Which is exactly why they need to verify his age! 🙄
The systems are not that sophisticated that they automatically link to previous verification. For each new claim or review verification of some sort is generally needed. If he claims but isn’t part of your claim then it’s standard for him to be verified as part of your claim.

But how does a picture with a key in door prevent fraud. ?

For work I have to id check regularly, take selfie video and pictures often with driving licence etc. and I STILL can't see how a picture of a key in door proves anything

Its not a scam. The op will have been through security with the agent. They are uploaded securely and deleted in good time hence whyvpeople are saying they've uploaded same things before.

Adult DCs income doesn't affect parents UC. Until they are 21, when you lose £91ish from the housing element.

And i have verified him, when I first claimed and he was a child. Then again when he went to college. And he actually claims under his own name atm as he's too unwell to work.

Most people on UC are working!

This sounds like a scam?! I wouldn't want to send pictures of passports, full address, children's school/nursery, birth certificates?! Do you need to present that in person or send them somewhere? Sorry if I'm being ridiculously wary.

Well it is relevant if he lives with you. UC is based on household income. If he has never claimed benefits in his own right then having to verify him is pretty common.