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Is this just getting ridiculous! UNIVERSAL CREDIT

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ChristmasTime2023 · 05/02/2026 16:06

So had a review with UC today phone call she stated she would up date the journal with what I need to provide.
A full length photo of myself standing outside my front door with the key in the lock!?
Then a letter from the children's school & nursery saying they attend there
A letter from the children's gp
Passport photos
Child benefit award letter
Birth certificates (they have had birth certificates before )

This isn't a new claim either I dont understand why gp letters are needed they want one for me and my partner too.

Also on the phone call asked who I use for my gas and electricity
Ive never been asked these things before seems strange to ask?
Anyone else had a review lately what did they ask for.

Partner works full time if that matters.

OP posts:
LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:44

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 11:29

I am not getting you. Are you an offended landlord? Not quite why you are having a go at me?

My genuine apology is due to you- I mixed up your username with the commenter who has a tenant. Sorry Coffeeandbooks.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 11:29

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:17

You are commenting on hypocrisy? Wow.

I am not getting you. Are you an offended landlord? Not quite why you are having a go at me?

Navybluecoat · 06/02/2026 11:27

IngridBergmannn · 06/02/2026 11:16

Wtf.... So sorry this happened to you!

But what a bunch of bullshit. I don't claim anything, but if I would, and someone checked my wardrobes, they'd find a bunch of men's clothing. I'm a woman and live with my daughter, no men.

I just like unisex style, I'm almost 6ft and like wearing oversized men's jackets, blazers, bombers, bikers and have quite a few. Ditto roomy hoodies and knits. Also own several silk ties. My shoe size is 8, so lots of my boots and trainers like docs, adidases, etc can be taken for 'men's'. What does that even prove? Is it against the law to buy men's clothing if you're a woman?

Absolute insanity.

They'd have a field day with both my dds

Both have a very masculine style,neither own a dress,both live in doc Martins (both wear size 8/9),both wear mens boxers/pyjamas/socks/jeans/hoodies and neither wear make up

You wouldn't believe a woman lived in their homes if you where to check their wardrobes

It's a daft way of doing things

LemaxObsessive · 06/02/2026 11:18

Steevee · 05/02/2026 16:16

Beggars can’t be choosers OP.

As others say, it’d be easy to get around with AI but I guess they’re at least trying to reduce benefit fraud.

How DARE you essentially call OP a “beggar” without even knowing her circumstances? Unbelievable ignorance. Reported

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:17

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 11:16

Not in a funny way obviously. The hypocrisy is funny.

You are commenting on hypocrisy? Wow.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 11:16

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:14

Its not hilarious, it's true. I've been a benefits specialist well over a decade and landlords who profit from the same system they like to slam are just quietly riding on the back of that exact same system. You know that, hence your rather silly comment. You have an appreciating asset funded by your tenant's UC housing costs, so it's win win for you.

Edited

Not in a funny way obviously. The hypocrisy is funny.

IngridBergmannn · 06/02/2026 11:16

Navybluecoat · 05/02/2026 22:02

I had something similar

The silly cow next door would ring them and tell them I was claiming as a single parent when I wasn't (i was!)

They would investigate and believe that whoever had rang them was shit stirring and drop the case

Then she'd ring them back and they'd investigate again

This went on for about 2 years when a snotty lady came round,sat in my lounge snapping question after question at me,trying to catch me out before telling me I 'had' to show her all our wardrobes to 'prove' I was living with my dc

I just told her to crack on as I had nothing to hide,so she did

She found a pair of men's pyjama bottoms in my wardrobe and claimed that was 'proof' I had a bloke living with me-just a pair of blue checked pj bottoms in with my 'female' clothes

Thankfully I was able to prove id bought them for me at the charity shop the day before and they where for my own use

Honest to god,it was inhumane they way she treated me but they never called back for some reason

Wtf.... So sorry this happened to you!

But what a bunch of bullshit. I don't claim anything, but if I would, and someone checked my wardrobes, they'd find a bunch of men's clothing. I'm a woman and live with my daughter, no men.

I just like unisex style, I'm almost 6ft and like wearing oversized men's jackets, blazers, bombers, bikers and have quite a few. Ditto roomy hoodies and knits. Also own several silk ties. My shoe size is 8, so lots of my boots and trainers like docs, adidases, etc can be taken for 'men's'. What does that even prove? Is it against the law to buy men's clothing if you're a woman?

Absolute insanity.

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:15

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 10:54

Yes, I am aware that you can claim as a single parent with the father named on the birth certificate

So why is it relevant to claiming benefits?

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 11:14

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 10:45

This is hilarious. This poster is very loud about her beliefs on benefit claimants as well.

Its not hilarious, it's true. I've been a benefits specialist well over a decade and landlords who profit from the same system they like to slam are just quietly riding on the back of that exact same system. You know that, hence your rather silly comment. You have an appreciating asset funded by your tenant's UC housing costs, so it's win win for you.

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 10:57

HoskinsChoice · 06/02/2026 08:20

We have to stop this thinking. Some people need UC. Some people choose UC. Everyone is entitled to UC if they NEED it. But it's those that are deliberately organising their lives to minimise their work and maximise their benefits that are the problem.

This in abundance.
I know people who are working full time and paying extortionate rent, hence the need for UC top up

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 10:54

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 10:42

Whether or not a father is on a birth certificate has nothing to do with whether or not someone claims as a single parent. Absolutely nothing.

Yes, I am aware that you can claim as a single parent with the father named on the birth certificate

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 10:45

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 10:40

So your rental income comes directly from the state. Struggling to work out why you are hanging onto the moral high ground.

This is hilarious. This poster is very loud about her beliefs on benefit claimants as well.

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 10:42

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 09:51

I know of people who leave father's name blank on birth certificate and claim as a single parent whilst in a relationship with said man.
Fraud is rife

Whether or not a father is on a birth certificate has nothing to do with whether or not someone claims as a single parent. Absolutely nothing.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 06/02/2026 10:41

@Crochetandtea look at you getting all the rent via UC to pay your mortgage whereas some of us on UC don't get any help for ours unless it is a loan so I would suggest you jog on.

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 10:40

Crochetandtea · 05/02/2026 23:58

If you don’t work and all your income is from benefits then you don’t pay tax. You use the money from taxpayers to pay the vat etc.
We have a tenant who has never worked a day in her life. First child at 16. She has never paid a penny of tax in her life because has never earn a penny in her life! It’s not a difficult concept.

So your rental income comes directly from the state. Struggling to work out why you are hanging onto the moral high ground.

notnorman · 06/02/2026 10:39

Im glad they’re making robust checks as there are criminal gangs who are exploiting any trust that may have previously been given.

notatinydancer · 06/02/2026 10:37

Jellybunny56 · 05/02/2026 16:15

It is being asked for more now. Full length photo proves it is you, outside the front door links you to that exact address, key in lock shows you have full access and control of the property. Especially if you are claiming housing element, where we are at least they have recently found quite a number of people who are receiving housing benefit for a property which actually they are subletting and receiving rent for.

so easily faked though.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/02/2026 10:29

Crochetandtea · 05/02/2026 23:58

If you don’t work and all your income is from benefits then you don’t pay tax. You use the money from taxpayers to pay the vat etc.
We have a tenant who has never worked a day in her life. First child at 16. She has never paid a penny of tax in her life because has never earn a penny in her life! It’s not a difficult concept.

Oh dear. That's quite embarrassing for you. Especially as you openly tell us you're a recipient of an awful lot of state benefits without doing anything much in return.

ForWittyTealOP · 06/02/2026 10:27

NorthXNorthWest · 06/02/2026 08:41

The benefits bill already proves it.

Expand please.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 06/02/2026 10:09

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 09:51

I know of people who leave father's name blank on birth certificate and claim as a single parent whilst in a relationship with said man.
Fraud is rife

That's just stupid of them. You can have a father named and still be a single parent.

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 06/02/2026 10:08

Onbdy · 06/02/2026 07:35

What paperwork do you assume they have? There is no paperwork.You clearly didn’t understand my response. I am baffled that people who are essentially getting government money for free funded by tax payers are moaning that they have to do something as simple as verify ID as and when requested. This is what you agree to when you sign your commitments at the start of a claim. If you don’t like it then don’t claim! It would be a bit like me telling my boss which parts of my job I want to do or moaning about having to provide evidence for my expenses. If I want the money I provide the evidence requested.

Well I kind of assumed that when someone verified his ID 6 years ago, and again when he turned 18, that there was a "tick" or something on the system to say they had verified his existence. As him living with me makes no difference to how much money I get, I wouldn't lie about him being here. Not that they've asked for his address anyway!

Obviously I'm wrong and that's fine. Just feels like a waste of time to when I feel like they could hold a record of this. Like a PP said, why isn't it all linked like in other countries? I will take the paperwork in, like you say, it's a condition of claiming. But I'm allowed to grumble about it. Like im allowed to grumble about being expected to do training (unpaid) on a day off. Or go into a meeting.

And fuck off with the lazy, non tax payer shit. You know nothing about me, why I claim and what I do or don't earn.

Newyearawaits · 06/02/2026 09:51

Amiacoolorwarmcolour · 06/02/2026 07:45

There is a huge problem with fraudulent claims. Also many people put some random bloke on their child’s birth certificate for fraudulent reasons.
I agree with having to show it as evidence.

I know of people who leave father's name blank on birth certificate and claim as a single parent whilst in a relationship with said man.
Fraud is rife

This2shallpas · 06/02/2026 09:14

Thechaseison71 · 06/02/2026 08:46

How the hell would you do that? And even why? I'm not sure if it's still the case but to be aan oh the birth certificate he had to be present unless you were married to him.

So if you are married he's your husband and not a random, if he was a random he can't be added with being present.

Not sure how it would work as far as defrauding the benefits system or what you could gain

I have never linked it to fraud and not sure how that would work - but in the working class community grew up in, I knew quite a few young women who put random male friends on their birth certificate.

AFAIK these men had consented to it and came along for the registration despite knowing for sure it wasn’t theirs.

It was quite obvious as well in some cases, like a white mother who was claiming her mate to be the (white) father and the child was mixed race.

In each of the cases I can think of, they either were not sure who the bio dad was and/or the bio dad was washing his hands off the whole thing.

But yeah, I also don’t see how you could defraud the benefits system with this.

LilyBunch25 · 06/02/2026 08:57

Thechaseison71 · 06/02/2026 08:46

How the hell would you do that? And even why? I'm not sure if it's still the case but to be aan oh the birth certificate he had to be present unless you were married to him.

So if you are married he's your husband and not a random, if he was a random he can't be added with being present.

Not sure how it would work as far as defrauding the benefits system or what you could gain

Its just a weird throw away comment imo. I've never come across it and I've been in welfare benefits for a long time.

Thechaseison71 · 06/02/2026 08:46

Amiacoolorwarmcolour · 06/02/2026 07:45

There is a huge problem with fraudulent claims. Also many people put some random bloke on their child’s birth certificate for fraudulent reasons.
I agree with having to show it as evidence.

How the hell would you do that? And even why? I'm not sure if it's still the case but to be aan oh the birth certificate he had to be present unless you were married to him.

So if you are married he's your husband and not a random, if he was a random he can't be added with being present.

Not sure how it would work as far as defrauding the benefits system or what you could gain

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