Is this just getting ridiculous! UNIVERSAL CREDIT

I've claimed UC for going on 2 years now and have never had one of these reviews.

Proof of address is established when the claim is first started. So no need for proof of housing at all if the person isn't claiming for rent.

They're random. After 6 months on UC everyone can be reviewed, and then they happen every 6 months.

Lazy non tax payer shit wasn't a direct quote, but your assumption that UC claimants don't work/ pay tax implies it. The unpaid training days are on top of a full time job. I'm not talking about a "day off" from unemployment ffs.

The point about paperwork expiring might be relevant, if they weren't asking for a birth certificate. But, for the 3rd (?) time now, I accept that they have to see it. And so will dutifully take it in to be seen. Luckily I dont have to be at work at that time !

This may be due to application of the surplus earnings rule- final and/or redundancy pay can rule you out of claiming for a certain number of months.

Doesn’t that also help back up where you live though, re; the tenancy agreement. Although I agree if not paying rent no need in that respect.

What triggers a review though or are they just random?

The benefits bill would be cheaper by £30 bn a year and rising if we didn't have to pay private landlords mortgages (or in your case pure profit).
What kind of job do you think someone like your tenant would get that didn't need a UC top up? For all your moralising, it wouldn't save a penny.

If you don’t work and all your income is from benefits then you don’t pay tax. You use the money from taxpayers to pay the vat etc.
We have a tenant who has never worked a day in her life. First child at 16. She has never paid a penny of tax in her life because has never earn a penny in her life! It’s not a difficult concept.

UC replaced several legacy benefits so you're wrong in suggesting it's a replacement for job seekers allowance. It's not purely income replacement for the unemployed or low-paid; it fulfils a number of functions including supporting disabled people and families with children.

There are a lot of assertions about people working just enough to keep UC off their backs but in the absence of concrete figures, that's made up rubbish. Apart from anything, as has already been pointed out, UC doesn't work in the same way as tax credits. It's a lot more conditional.

So everyone who pays tax should get UC then?

Do you think people that are claiming UC are paying enough tax to cover their share of public services?

What ‘lazy non tax payer shit’ are you referring to? If that is directed at me then please show me where I said that! 🤔🙄
ID can’t be held on file as you stated because lots of forms of ID have expiry dates, eg. passports, driving licences etc plus utility bills can only be used if they are within the last 6 months.
Of course you should be expected to attend an unpaid training day on your ‘day off’ UC should not be a lifestyle choice where you can choose to work part time and expect it to be topped up. It’s there to support people while they look for a job that does pay enough for them to stop claiming. Part of that is experience and training. This is the case for anyone deemed to be capable of looking for full time work.
If you don’t like that then stop claiming get a better paid or second job.
I’m not directing this at you because as you rightly said, I have no idea of your circumstances. However, there are people in this country who are playing the system and choosing UC as an alternative to working. That does need to be stopped.

What ‘lazy non tax payer shit’ are you referring to? If that is directed at me then please show me where I said that! 🤔🙄
ID can’t be held on file as you stated because lots of forms of ID have expiry dates, eg. passports, driving licences etc plus utility bills can only be used if they are within the last 6 months.
Of course you should be expected to attend an unpaid training day on your ‘day off’ UC should not be a lifestyle choice where you can choose to work part time and expect it to be topped up. It’s there to support people while they look for a job that does pay enough for them to stop claiming. Part of that is experience and training. This is the case for anyone deemed to be capable of looking for full time work.
If you don’t like that then stop claiming get a better paid or second job.
I’m not directing this at you because as you rightly said, I have no idea of your circumstances. However, there are people in this country who are playing the system and choosing UC as an alternative to working. That does need to be stopped.

Well I kind of assumed that when someone verified his ID 6 years ago, and again when he turned 18, that there was a "tick" or something on the system to say they had verified his existence. As him living with me makes no difference to how much money I get, I wouldn't lie about him being here. Not that they've asked for his address anyway!

Obviously I'm wrong and that's fine. Just feels like a waste of time to when I feel like they could hold a record of this. Like a PP said, why isn't it all linked like in other countries? I will take the paperwork in, like you say, it's a condition of claiming. But I'm allowed to grumble about it. Like im allowed to grumble about being expected to do training (unpaid) on a day off. Or go into a meeting.

And fuck off with the lazy, non tax payer shit. You know nothing about me, why I claim and what I do or don't earn.

Why are fit and healthy people on benefits - chatting to a builder a while back I said see you to tomorrow he said no I’ve done my 16hrs this week! Well to me who was working 60 hrs a week at the time it made my piss boil - as they say!

Why are fit and healthy people on benefits - chatting to a builder a while back I said see you to tomorrow he said no I’ve done my 16hrs this week! Well to me who was working 60 hrs a week at the time it made my piss boil - as they say!

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In an ideal world there would be enough social housing. Rented on a time limited basis, not for life. But we don't live in that world. Who should house @Crochetandtea 's tenant given the housing shortage?

I'll wait.

I’m not slagging her off. She’s a pleasant enough lady if somewhat lazy. I’m stating that the benefits bill would be smaller if those who could work even part time did in fact work part time and not rely on those who work fulltime and then some to cover their choices.

I’m not slagging her off. She’s a pleasant enough lady if somewhat lazy. I’m stating that the benefits bill would be smaller if those who could work even part time did in fact work part time and not rely on those who work fulltime and then some to cover their choices.

If you don't receive the housing element, then they shouldn't have asked for your tenancy agreement!

Without trying to sound er, prejudiced, did the woman who called you have a British accent? We have a lot of people who aren't British working in UC reviews and more and more there seems to be misunderstandings on what's required and what's not. I think things are getting lost in translation.

Never really thought about it tbh. But a landlord can't really slag off their tenant for being in benefits then actually make money from it themselves That's hypocritical

Lots of landlords won’t accept benefits I agree. Do you think landlords shouldn’t accept benefits?