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Sister-in-law won't look at me and runs away from me!

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TiredMummaChlo · 05/02/2026 10:48

This is a long story - I will try to condense it. I am looking to vent and get advice (AIBU doesn't really fit, but couldn't find a better category).

My sister-in-law had several early pregnancy losses. We were so sad for her. We sent her flowers, would always ask how she is feeling and getting on. She is didn't really ever discuss with us, which is understandable. It might be worth mentioning she is on the autistic spectrum. I can't quite imagine how awful these losses must have been, as you must be grieving the life, hope and joy you thought you were going to have.

We used to be friends with BIL/SIL - go out for meals, cinema, boardgames nights, etc. Then got pregnant. We messaged BIL/SIL first, to express their might be mixed feelings, but I am pregnant. The invites then stopped...

At social events, my SIL would not say hello, not look at me, when she saw me she would turn and walk the other way. When sitting at dinner tables, she would spend the whole time looking at the ceiling or opposite direction to me. During my pregnancy, my in-laws would start talking about 'being a nanny for the first time...' etc. then immediately cut their sentence off, with worried expressions, as they realised SIL could hear. It was like the family couldn't feel joy for us.

I had a friend who was going through IVF at the time. My SILs reaction to my pregnancy made me feel so terrified to tell my friend I was expecting - as I thought maybe react the same. I felt really alone and had no other friends with babies. I remember crying at a midwife appointment about it.

All of the above continued after having my lovely now two-year-old. No acknowledgement of her, no talking to her, etc.

As of the end of January 2026, BIL/SIL have welcomed a baby girl into the world. I am so glad that they have had their baby. But I also feel resentment - that they could have their pregnancy, the family were allowed to feel and express full joy, that they are now allowed to discuss their birth openly, have full support, etc. I just feel resentment that we weren't allowed to have this, and that my BIL wasn't there for his brother after a horrendously traumatic birth.

I can definitely get over all of the above, so long as SIL/BIL do actually start talking to us again at family events, looking at us, acknowledging my daughter, etc. I know we will never be such close friends again now, but I just hope they can act normal with us. I don't want to feel these feelings when my MIL is talking to me about SIL. I just want to get over it!

Has anyone had any similar experiences, or have any advice?

OP posts:
Tableforjoan · 06/02/2026 20:59

TiredMummaChlo · 06/02/2026 20:48

No. The SILs parents iced her out over something, wouldn't talk to her, visit her etc.
Not BILs/my partners parents.

Sounds like icing people out is something she’s learnt from her family as a perfectly normal thing to do over any upset.

TiredMummaChlo · 06/02/2026 20:53

freakingscared · 06/02/2026 18:43

Everyone’s happiness should be celebrated . The issue is everyone protected them including yourself and now off course you resent it .
I lost a baby at 13 weeks and 3 days after I had to celebrate my niece babies shower . I remeber looking at her bump and wanting to very non stop ( it was my 3rd loss ) but I never did because I knew I was wrong the moment I took away her joy . Her baby was on the way and needed and should be celebrated .
Thankfully I went on to get pregnant ( currently) again , those where hard times but we are not animals who don’t know what’s right and wrong

I'm so sorry you had a tough time. I think they would have understood if you hadn't have gone to the baby shower. Although you had mixed emotions, it's kind that you were still able to go and celebrate in some way. So glad to hear that you were able to get pregnant again x

OP posts:
TiredMummaChlo · 06/02/2026 20:48

CruCru · 06/02/2026 18:37

I don’t think she’s told the SIL about the friend doing IVF.

Something has jumped out at me from the OP’s last update. The wider family treated the SIL in the same way over some issue for a year? This isn’t just the SIL then, the family themselves are weird and unpleasant.

No. The SILs parents iced her out over something, wouldn't talk to her, visit her etc.
Not BILs/my partners parents.

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 06/02/2026 18:54

I think that there are larger family problems at play and I would question the relationship between your sil/bil and their family otherwise

in normal families, no one would expect not to talk about your baby

in my family, I was bullied. What they’d do is act like they couldn’t speak about things for fear of me, and then make a big deal out of making me seem unapproachable when in fact that wasn’t the case and I had no idea they were all acting like this!

I would speak directly to sil and have it out with your husband and her husband there and no one else

just to offer a different perspective xx

also congratulations on your babies

freakingscared · 06/02/2026 18:43

Everyone’s happiness should be celebrated . The issue is everyone protected them including yourself and now off course you resent it .
I lost a baby at 13 weeks and 3 days after I had to celebrate my niece babies shower . I remeber looking at her bump and wanting to very non stop ( it was my 3rd loss ) but I never did because I knew I was wrong the moment I took away her joy . Her baby was on the way and needed and should be celebrated .
Thankfully I went on to get pregnant ( currently) again , those where hard times but we are not animals who don’t know what’s right and wrong

CruCru · 06/02/2026 18:37

I don’t think she’s told the SIL about the friend doing IVF.

Something has jumped out at me from the OP’s last update. The wider family treated the SIL in the same way over some issue for a year? This isn’t just the SIL then, the family themselves are weird and unpleasant.

Tuesdayschild50 · 06/02/2026 18:26

It's a tough one I understand your resentment towards them.
To not acknowledge their niece is out of order it's understandable they felt grief at their losses but not being able to be happy for someone your close to is poor it's not a competition.
I'd have to talk to them and say how they've treated you and made you feel wasn't fair .
If you don't you will always feel resentful ..

chocorabbit · 06/02/2026 10:14

Maybe I have misunderstood but why did you feel that you had to tell SIL about a friend's IVF/pregnancy? Especially when they disrespect you like that and completely ignore you. I am sure she comes across very badly in social gatherings and people do notice. Did they even acknowledge that you had a baby and did they visit or send gifts at the time?

I hope your DH tells them that it's very rude of them to hurt both of you like that. And your DD hasn't done anything to them!

aneelli · 05/02/2026 21:20

Well she’s the weird one, she’s not the only person in the world struggling, she needed to get over herself n learn to be happy for others. That is such embarrassing way to behave, if I were you, I would want nothing to do with people like that.

TowerRavenSeven · 05/02/2026 21:03

Yanbu. You can’t mention Anything today without reminding/hurting/etc. someone these days. But what about talking about parents? I lost mine young. What about being healthy? I had a potential life threatening illness. Yet no one pussy foots around me even though it can be very hurtful because people should be able to live - not rubbing it in other’s faces - just live!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 05/02/2026 20:57

It is sad for her, her reaction was probably worse due to the autism diagnosis. I don’t think I would want to speak to her again. I understand her pain and frustration but she has been horrible to you. She is lucky that you had a healthy baby or she’d have been the biggest shit going.

Calliopespa · 05/02/2026 20:55

Opfestlove · 05/02/2026 20:53

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😂

Calliopespa · 05/02/2026 20:54

Pancakeorcrepe · 05/02/2026 20:36

There is more and more carte blanche for people with fertility issues to treat other people like crap. I’ve got so many friends now who can’t properly enjoy their pregnancy because it all becomes very fraught with telling the other friends and family members. It turns into a whole thing to be managed. Of course, when these couples with infertility do get their pregnancy and baby, they expect everyone to celebrate with them and be over the moon for them. Obviously not everyone is like this, it seems to be the bridezilla types that then turn into this persona. It is the same behaviour.
OP, your SIL sounds extremely immature. It’s a shame you are now being singled out when you haven’t done anything wrong.

I can see the Bridezilla analogy up to a point - and I definitely think baby showers can fall in that kind of category.

But I think it can be all too easy to dismiss fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, and I don't think comparing the sometimes erratic behaviour that can result from the heartbreak and anxiety involved to the "Me, Me, ME-ness" of Bridezilla-dom is really fair.

One of the reasons it seems a more recent thing is because back a couple of generations you simply bottled and buried any kind of trauma that involved your ... (whisper it: your "down-there bits.") I'm sure it manifested in different ways.

Opfestlove · 05/02/2026 20:53

Cinquefoils · 05/02/2026 18:07

Are you reading a different thread?

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Calliopespa · 05/02/2026 20:49

TiredMummaChlo · 05/02/2026 20:19

I appreciate everyone who has taken the time to respond to this, and to everyone who has shared their stories and been vulnerable. It is so helpful to understand all perspectives, so thank you.

Some things have been taken out of context/jumped to conclusions. For example, I never said I was going to have a difficult conversation with SIL now, as new mum, with a newborn, going through baby blues, hormonal shifts, etc! This can either wait, or I don’t think it necessarily needs to be addressed at all if we can be civil. I don’t want an apology, as grief can do all sorts to people.

It is likely a mix of things - the trauma, difficulty expressing emotions/social situations, and perhaps her upbringing (her family iced her out like this for over a year for an issue I won’t go into details on) - that means that she could not handle it in a different way, other than completely cutting contact/running away/looking away.

One the many things that I have taken from this is being mindful of my 2-year old. If SIL/BIL continues to ignore my very social girl, I will have to consider the impact it has on her, as she will definitely pick up on it. I might have to stop taking her to events where SIL/BIL are if it continues. This is one instance which would mean some kind of convo to address in the future.

I also agree that these issues are very complex. I just wish it could have been handled slightly differently, even if the brothers could have spoken about it. Just a little bit of clarity, other than being totally iced out, would have been less hurtful and confusing. However, I know there is no point in thinking of the shoulds/could/what ifs. I cannot control how another person reacts.

Thanks all! Probably my last message as can’t keep up. But it feels good to share something that I’ve felt alone with for a while now.

A wise summary I think op.

And I agree, the impact on your DD is the one thing that requires some sort of resolution at some point, either gentle contact while you all feel your way towards a more natural dynamic, or an explanation to Mil, perhaps, as to why you can't attend things together.

Good luck.

Pancakeorcrepe · 05/02/2026 20:36

There is more and more carte blanche for people with fertility issues to treat other people like crap. I’ve got so many friends now who can’t properly enjoy their pregnancy because it all becomes very fraught with telling the other friends and family members. It turns into a whole thing to be managed. Of course, when these couples with infertility do get their pregnancy and baby, they expect everyone to celebrate with them and be over the moon for them. Obviously not everyone is like this, it seems to be the bridezilla types that then turn into this persona. It is the same behaviour.
OP, your SIL sounds extremely immature. It’s a shame you are now being singled out when you haven’t done anything wrong.

TiredMummaChlo · 05/02/2026 20:19

I appreciate everyone who has taken the time to respond to this, and to everyone who has shared their stories and been vulnerable. It is so helpful to understand all perspectives, so thank you.

Some things have been taken out of context/jumped to conclusions. For example, I never said I was going to have a difficult conversation with SIL now, as new mum, with a newborn, going through baby blues, hormonal shifts, etc! This can either wait, or I don’t think it necessarily needs to be addressed at all if we can be civil. I don’t want an apology, as grief can do all sorts to people.

It is likely a mix of things - the trauma, difficulty expressing emotions/social situations, and perhaps her upbringing (her family iced her out like this for over a year for an issue I won’t go into details on) - that means that she could not handle it in a different way, other than completely cutting contact/running away/looking away.

One the many things that I have taken from this is being mindful of my 2-year old. If SIL/BIL continues to ignore my very social girl, I will have to consider the impact it has on her, as she will definitely pick up on it. I might have to stop taking her to events where SIL/BIL are if it continues. This is one instance which would mean some kind of convo to address in the future.

I also agree that these issues are very complex. I just wish it could have been handled slightly differently, even if the brothers could have spoken about it. Just a little bit of clarity, other than being totally iced out, would have been less hurtful and confusing. However, I know there is no point in thinking of the shoulds/could/what ifs. I cannot control how another person reacts.

Thanks all! Probably my last message as can’t keep up. But it feels good to share something that I’ve felt alone with for a while now.

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Twinkletopz · 05/02/2026 20:18

Have you been to see the baby yet?

Jeska7 · 05/02/2026 20:13

Diamondsareagirlsbestfrien · 05/02/2026 11:51

I’ve actually been on both sides of this. I’ve been the one going through losses and also the one who’s been pregnant, whilst others have gone through reoccurring loss.

I completely understand how you feel whilst also understanding how your SIL feels. It’s such an awkward, delicate situation.

I pretty much avoided my closest friend during her pregnancy and turned down her baby shower, didn’t meet her DD until she was months old. I still hold guilt for that but going through losses especially with ones that meant we “should” of had babies together was so hard. I
sure she felt a bit of upset/resentment that I pulled back and maybe felt like in group settings she couldn’t express her joy in case it hurt me.

I had a healthy pregnancy in 2023 and I’m now pregnant again with my second and a couple of my friends are now going through losses/infertility and it is hard when they pull back but I’ve been in their shoes so I understand it more.

I’m sorry you felt sometimes you had to suppress your joy, I know it’s hard but please hold some grace for your SIL. You can’t understand the devastation of loss until you’ve been there. It’s so hard watching other pregnancies thrive. She was no doubt happy for you but jealous and sad for her. She should have been the first to have the grandchild, she lost her babies and then you get pregnant and its a big reminder for her x

I agree with this. It was rude of your SIL to behave like this and awful of you, but she probably couldn’t help it and probably made worse if she has ASD. I know how devastating it is to lose a baby. When it happened to me, half of all the women at work were pregnant at work. I just couldn’t be near them. I couldn’t avoid them entirely but missed all their leaving events, and was upset about this as I got on well with all of them but I knew if I went I’d just burst into tears. I knew I wouldn’t have been able to hold it together. Nobody would have known why either as none of them knew I’d been pregnant. I didn’t take much time off work either as it was awful being at home. I spent hours sobbing when I did take a day off sick. At least at work, I could try to keep busy, but had to sob in the toilets or go home early a few times! It was difficult to avoid pregnant women and talk of pregnancies and babies with so many pregnant at the same time! If it had been a close relative or friend who had been pregnant, I think I would have tried to avoid seeing them too but at least I could have explained. You clearly realised how sensitive it was, but I think your SIL should have explained that she would have to pull away from you, and then not met up as much. That might have helped you, but her grief got in the way so much.
You have a right to be really hurt. I think it would be reasonable to organise a sit down and try to have a talk about it. Say you realise it was a very difficult time for her / them but say you were really hurt by their reaction and couldn’t express the joy of your pregnancy. I imagine her pregnancy was full of worry in case they miscarried again. Say there was hurt and upset on both sides, and ask if you can all put it behind you? Ask if the cousins can have a relationship? Perhaps go from there? See what they say. I’d say one chance and if the conversation doesn’t go as well, you’ll have to leave it. It’s clearly bothering you, as it would and should, you say you were really close before so of course it’s upsetting. It’s such a shame. As it’s family though, I’d be trying to forgive her / them. Hopefully you can all have a relationship with the children / babies who have done nothing wrong and are cousins. I might be having a similar conversation with your parents too, saying how hurt you were that there was no joy expressed over your pregnancy.
Good luck.

Thepossibility · 05/02/2026 19:49

It's their baby and future kids I feel for. They are going to have to deal with their DM running away from them when she's overwhelmed or there is any time of emotion or hardship. And their extended family are a bunch of rug sweepers.
Before anyone comes for me, I have LIVED experience. It's all well and good making endless excuses and exceptions for someone with ASD but the children will suffer. IL aren't going out of their way to rectify the situation for OP's child so SIL child will be no different.
Just step back and enjoy your lovely family, and maintain a cool distance for your own family's benefit. The outcome you want won't happen from these people.

LavenderSweetPea · 05/02/2026 19:42

OP I can tell you've tried to be kind to her, sending a text announcement for example definitely the right thing to do. However, I really think you've missed the mark with your resentment of her being able to have the experience you feel like you were denied. Pregnancy after loss is not an enjoyable experience, she might have been able to talk about her pregnancy more openly but I bet it hurt her to do so. Personally I found it extremely hard to even acknowledge my own pregnancy, let alone anyone else's. She probably spent each and every day worrying that she was going to lose another one. You may not have been able to share and feel your joy as much as you would have liked with the in laws, but presumably you were able to do so with your friends, your own family, your colleagues, your hairdresser, some random woman on the bus who asks you when you're due etc. and you probably got to enjoy your scans, your midwife appointments, decorating the nursery and preparing for baby's arrival. Your SILs previous experience probably jaded every conversation people tried to have with her about it.

I don't say this to say I can't see why you are sad, after all you lost a friend through no fault of your own. But resenting her feels hollow, just something to think about.

Calliopespa · 05/02/2026 19:33

TiredMummaChlo · 05/02/2026 19:29

Thanks for this @cinquefoils . I looked up the best ways to handle the situation, as like I said, I had SIL with loss and a best friend going through IVF. So I did really consider the options of how to tell them with empathy and kindness, and decided that was the best way to do it. Obviously, there is no single right way to do it, but I tried my best.
If I were in her position, I would have not been able to plaster a smile on my face if it were announced in person. So I could not have done that to her!
Tbf, we aren't big 'announcement', baby shower, type people anyway. I think it was all pretty low-key the way we told everyone.

Yes, text is absolutely the best, and the best you could have done - and it works on a similar logic to the way in which SIL finds she can send a card to dc but struggles face to face.

To me, it is clear it is still costing her an effort that is beyond her because of her trauma. We could debate whether she has failed in some way in that she hasn't healed faster, but I definitely think there is no reason to take it personally.

TiredMummaChlo · 05/02/2026 19:29

Cinquefoils · 05/02/2026 17:58

I think that, although considered a kindness, it was actually singling them out and making it clear that you thought they may ruin the announcement or your special time.

I think that's a deeply weird and unpleasant assumption, @Crwysmam. There's no suggestion whatsoever that the OP let her BIL and SIL know separately by text in case they 'ruined her announcement'. People in the OP's position, announcing a pregnancy to someone struggling with infertility or pregnancy loss, often on here beg people to let them know via text so they can deal with their complicated emotions about it and not have to slap on a happy face amidst familial rejoicing. It seems to me a sensitive thing to do and not to come from 'Don't rain on my parade' but from a genuinely well-meaning thought process.

Thanks for this @cinquefoils . I looked up the best ways to handle the situation, as like I said, I had SIL with loss and a best friend going through IVF. So I did really consider the options of how to tell them with empathy and kindness, and decided that was the best way to do it. Obviously, there is no single right way to do it, but I tried my best.
If I were in her position, I would have not been able to plaster a smile on my face if it were announced in person. So I could not have done that to her!
Tbf, we aren't big 'announcement', baby shower, type people anyway. I think it was all pretty low-key the way we told everyone.

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Calliopespa · 05/02/2026 19:22

CrouchEndTiger1 · 05/02/2026 18:22

My mum had 4 sisters and most of them never sent me a card or present my entire life. I dont care. I never have cared. Presumably these women had rheir own lives struggles and families.

One of the aunties that ignores my existence in childhood contacted my via Facebook in adulthood as she saw me on a friend's list from one of the cousins.

I welcomed contact from her and we began sending each other cards at christmas and birthday.

I had zero animosity whatsoever towards her.

Children make their own minds up. All of this hand wringing about a small child being ignored by her dad's sister is the adults emotions. The child wont care. There is an awful lot of projecting going on here.

It's frankly weird that the OPs entire pregnancy was spoilt because of one person.

It's frankly weird that the OPs entire pregnancy was spoilt because of one person.

I'd actually go a step further and say that it's a bit weird that other people's reactions - apart, obviously from the baby's father or maybe your parents - could ruin a woman's pregnancy at all. Surely this is about the joy of the life you are creating and about to meet, and not about the reactions of other people? It's almost SM'ish in its neediness for "likes."

I do understand that it would have been a lot nicer if there had been more celebration, more fanfare, more discussion of it in the wider family circle on that side of the family; but, with an understanding of why that wasn't the case, it seems to me a kind of "shrug and move on" circumstance. As another pp said, pregnant women generally get more interest from their own side of the family anyway.

Changedmynameagain20 · 05/02/2026 19:18

CrouchEndTiger1 · 05/02/2026 19:15

I dont care what happened 100 years ago or in other countries. It might be recent but it's what we do now.

Edited

Who are you including as "we" in that sentence? At my child's primary school, about half the parents grew up locally and are still geographically close to their extended families (we are not in that half). A fair few attended the school themselves!