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To think you can never get rid of hypervigilance

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MargoLivebetter · 04/02/2026 14:36

I've been pondering this a great deal. I finished a 4 year relationship at the end of last summer and I've been reflecting on it and trying to learn from it.

I had an abusive childhood and went on to have abusive relationships and then an abusive marriage (which I have long since exited). I've been diagnosed with both PTSD and CPTSD. I had some excellent therapy, that was transformational. BUT I do wonder whether there are some behaviours that are so hard-wired into our psyche that we never truly get rid of them.

I am hypervigilant. When I was considering whether or not my most recent relationship was abusive, I found myself thinking was he abusive or was I too hypervigilant?

I am unable to not read people, scan their faces, spot micro-reactions and constantly analyse them. I do it in all scenarios, work, social, home, family, friends, even in the gym etc. It is onerous, tiring, frustrating and I don't enjoy any aspect of it, but I also do not know how not to do it. It is like breathing in and out for me. It is so instinctual that I don't even realise I am doing it, but I am constantly. When I do catch myself, I have no idea how not to do it. It feels like I'm asking myself not to see things that are in front of me. I'm in my mid-50s and my therapist said that given my background, I have probably been doing this in rudimentary form since before I have memories. So, this isn't a new thing, or something I started doing as an adult, it is over 50 years of enduring behaviour.

So, are there any others out there with hypervigilance who have managed to switch it off? Or any psychotherapists who know if it is even possible to do that?

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BrokenButNotFinished · 04/02/2026 16:13

VisitingInkMonitor · 04/02/2026 16:10

After lots of therapy to help control my stress levels I now think it’s my super power. I can quickly judge character which enables me to form relationships in work quickly, which is perfect for my job. I have no difficulties in reading people in teams meetings which I think a lot of less vigilant people struggle with. I find an online meeting no different to an in person one. I can also spot a wrong un a mile off. I’m easily startled so don’t like anyone walking behind me but apart from needing some down time every now and again I manage really well. I have a very understanding DH and DCs who know to back off of I say I need 10 minutes to myself. I think if you can get the stress off of under control it’s not a problem. I do a lot of meditation 🤣

Ah, yes - the exaggerated startle response!!
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BrokenButNotFinished · 04/02/2026 16:11

I used to wonder why people couldn't see the things I did. (Like, for instance, that really popular man in a group or organisation who everybody thinks is just a loveable maverick... but you realise that he's a bully or a predator who flies under the radar because he picks on the lone one, the small one, the one with no social capital, on the edge - so there's no come back for him.) Now I realise that they don't see because they literally aren't trained for this.

I try not to let it change too much about my behaviour in the ordinary run of things. If I get a blast of someone else's pain, it doesn't have to become my responsibility. Or if I need to remove myself, I will do so. I have certain workarounds: I try, for instance, never to be the first one in a venue and therefore responsible for picking a table - because I already know where the doors are and which way they open, but if someone else makes the decision, I don't have to make the calculation over where is 'safe'. I'll just roll with it.

I hadn't heard about the Botox. I'm not sure I'd do it though.

VisitingInkMonitor · 04/02/2026 16:10

After lots of therapy to help control my stress levels I now think it’s my super power. I can quickly judge character which enables me to form relationships in work quickly, which is perfect for my job. I have no difficulties in reading people in teams meetings which I think a lot of less vigilant people struggle with. I find an online meeting no different to an in person one. I can also spot a wrong un a mile off. I’m easily startled so don’t like anyone walking behind me but apart from needing some down time every now and again I manage really well. I have a very understanding DH and DCs who know to back off of I say I need 10 minutes to myself. I think if you can get the stress off of under control it’s not a problem. I do a lot of meditation 🤣

MargoLivebetter · 04/02/2026 16:09

@Cinquefoils you are right awareness is not enough. I've been aware for a long time but the undoing seems beyond me.

It may need something like CBT or I was even wondering about hypnotherapy.

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Cinquefoils · 04/02/2026 16:04

I think it's possible, but admittedly it's not something I've managed to achieve yet. I'm seeing a somatic therapist, and working with her has made me far more aware of the many things I do automatically (abusive childhood, unattuned parents, CSA) -- not just hypervigilance, but shallow breathing, clenched jaw, making myself small, defensive posture, capacity to ignore bodily cues like hunger and tiredness until they're screaming etc etc. I'm in my 50s too, and have been doing these things since early childhood, but working very hard in therapy is making me aware of them. Awareness is the first step to undoing. And it's difficult, I won't lie. But I am relearning how to breathe, and to ground myself in something other than 'What is that flicker of expression on the other person's face saying? Am I safe?'

So you might need something other than talking therapy.

navystrap · 04/02/2026 15:59

@MargoLivebetter Yeah its wild there is an increasing body of research about it, I had no idea until I noticed a change in myself.

MargoLivebetter · 04/02/2026 15:58

Wow, @navystrap I'm gobsmacked by that revelation. Certainly worth thinking about.

Yes, @Octavia64 that makes sense. When I retire I want to get a dog. I love animals.

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Octavia64 · 04/02/2026 15:57

I don’t do it when I’m alone in my house with my cats.

so I use that as rest time.

navystrap · 04/02/2026 15:55

So after a difficult childhood I struggled with this as well and tried all sorts to move on from it. However it was after getting botox for severe migraine (something that likely was triggered at least in part by my hyper vigilance) that I gradually noticed an improvement. You have to get the glabellar / frown muscles done as this stops the feedback between your facial muscles and the amygdala i.e. the emergency warning centre in the brain.

It doesn't make you insensitive it just sort of dampens down the high alert stress state over time so that your at more of a normal level. Might be worth a shot or at least looking in to?

MargoLivebetter · 04/02/2026 15:48

@BrokenButNotFinished that's an interesting perspective. You sound like you have very similar issues. I need quite a lot of alone time too, so that my mind can rest.

You are right it is like a superpower and it is undoubtedly hugely useful. My colleagues value my insights from meetings. But for me it means that even the simplest of interactions is way more tiring than it needs to be and it leads to very annoying behaviours on my part. Unconsciously, I immediately adapt to the other person or the situation. This is why I ended up questioning whether my ex-P was abusive or whether I was over-scanning, over-analysing and over-adapting to him.

@mynameiscalypso yes, I think it is definitely a control thing. For me it is the way I try to be safe with other people.

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mynameiscalypso · 04/02/2026 15:47

For me, it’s the one part of my PTSD that I don’t think will ever leave me. And I’m okay with that to some extent; I suspect that I might, in part, cling to it as it gives me a sense of control (even if I know that I’m not in control of it).

BrokenButNotFinished · 04/02/2026 15:41

Short answer: I don't think it's possible.
Longer answer: Why would you want to switch it off? I'm the same as you, in my mind 50s with a heap tonne of trauma in my childhood, going back to early years. The hypervigilance is exhausting, but I don't know how not to do it. It's not conscious. I get blasts of somatic empathy too. I have to factor in some time every week to be completely alone, otherwise I start climbing the walls with it. On the other hand, I always feel that the majority of other people seem to be walking around with their eyes shut. So I've started to think about it like a superpower.

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