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to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

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exse24Londoner · 03/02/2026 16:35

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

OP posts:
RitaIncognita · 05/02/2026 15:33

The other alternative for the past participle is gotten, the preferred form in America.

Yes. "Gotten" is standard American English for the past participle.

ChubbyPuffling · 05/02/2026 15:29

I use the, do I instantly understand what is being said? principle.

It's gotten colder, hmmm...it is now colder than it was, so yup...

I did wonder if "Gen Zee" was a new US rap artist for a while 🤭, so nope...

Anmbord · 05/02/2026 15:20

‘It’s gotten colder’…that’s the sort of use being talked about, not gotten in ill-gotten gains or forgotten @Rayburn.

ETA Not an expert in any way unfortunately.
This what google says though:
“Get is the present tense form of the verb. Got is the past tense form as well as one of the two alternatives for the past participle. The other alternative for the past participle is gotten, the preferred form in America.”

Rayburn · 05/02/2026 14:54

dailyconniptions · 05/02/2026 11:02

Hell, no it isn't! It's he got/she got.

Surely “got” is a verb there.

I think gotten in “ill-gotten gain” is a participle.

Am happy to be corrected by some expert dialectitian and grammarian.

ShineBlueSky · 05/02/2026 14:37

It's not an 'ask', but a request.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 05/02/2026 12:10

dailyconniptions · 05/02/2026 11:02

Hell, no it isn't! It's he got/she got.

Yes it is. Got and gotten serve different purposes. British English seems to have lost the nuanced difference between them whereas hiberno English has retained it.

dailyconniptions · 05/02/2026 11:04

Why has a film become a movie? Why are we referring to Gen Zee, not Gen Zed?

dailyconniptions · 05/02/2026 11:02

Patchworkquilts · 05/02/2026 05:52

Gotten is the past participle of “to get”.
He has gotten…..

Hell, no it isn't! It's he got/she got.

Kumquatzest · 05/02/2026 07:30

The use of "holiday" a substitute for "Christmas" in British advertising confuses me. E.g. an Essex-accented woman proclaiming "shop our latest holiday collection!". I understand that Americans use "holiday" this way but Brits (typically) don't. Say "holiday" and I'm expecting bikinis, not reindeer jumpers and Elf on the Shelf tat.

Interesting that advertisers tend to borrow American phrases but not phrases from any other cultures (e.g. Spanish, Chinese). It definitely shows the direction of cultural influence.

Snakebite61 · 05/02/2026 07:01

exse24Londoner · 03/02/2026 16:35

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

It's the dumbing down of Britain.

TorroFerney · 05/02/2026 06:59

Biggles27 · 04/02/2026 16:32

Mom it’s MUM, cell phone - it’s a mobile! Vacation - no it’s a holiday. Pants no trousers, pants are your underwear. Zucchini no it’s a courgette. Eggplant - ugh, it’s an aubergine

but the one that is currently winding me up is Mom!!!!

Pants are trousers! Knickers are underwear. Panties (shudder) is the American word.

im British and 54, my mother is 84 it’s not a new American word.

EleanorReally · 05/02/2026 06:56

there is i am sure also an australian influence, after neighbours,
how you doing?
good
for example, or is that still the case?
it was

TorroFerney · 05/02/2026 06:54

Badatmostthings · 03/02/2026 16:39

Always been pants for trousers in the NW

Agree, pants here , knickers for underwear.

op are these people you are speaking to in real life? I’ve never heard anyone in real life say gifting or vacation unless it’s an American colleague. You can’t police the whole of the uk! problem is with social media you are hearing people who you normally never have a conversation with.

Agree about lip and trouser though .

EleanorReally · 05/02/2026 06:54

language evolves
i go on holiday

HelenaWaiting · 05/02/2026 06:50

JamesClyman · 03/02/2026 16:45

YANBU. There is no such word in English as "gotten". It's "got"!

Late Middle English. We used "gotten" before America existed.

Sunsetseascape · 05/02/2026 06:15

Badatmostthings · 03/02/2026 16:39

Always been pants for trousers in the NW

Agree, this isn’t some new change. Just what you were brought up with.

MinnieMountain · 05/02/2026 06:13

Admittedly it's more of a written language issue, but the incorrect use of "may" really irritates me. As in "may you send us this thing?". It's the new "myself".

Patchworkquilts · 05/02/2026 05:55

If you’re going to complain about language intricacies at least make sure you proof read your own writing….

Shmoigel · 05/02/2026 05:52

I am from Wales but one of my parents is from Lancashire. I have always called trousers pants, I have had people accuse me of using Americanisms but it’s what they do!

My theory is that they are called underpants for a reason

Patchworkquilts · 05/02/2026 05:52

JamesClyman · 03/02/2026 16:45

YANBU. There is no such word in English as "gotten". It's "got"!

Gotten is the past participle of “to get”.
He has gotten…..

mathanxiety · 05/02/2026 05:49

FC78 · 04/02/2026 22:47

That’s fair, I was actually going to say “unless you’re in Ireland”

Or Australia.

mathanxiety · 05/02/2026 05:49

Bonbon249 · 05/02/2026 01:02

'Learnings' really gets on my nerves - we do not learn learnings, we learn lessons!

As in, 'Lessons will be learned'?

That never happens.

mathanxiety · 05/02/2026 05:45

Here we go again.

Let's all bash American English.

Never mind that many of the words and phrases that make the teeth of so many itch are commonly used in various parts and regions of the UK itself...

Monty27 · 05/02/2026 04:26

CanadaNotAMum · 05/02/2026 04:20

A lot of terms are the same for Canada and the US, but not all. And Canadian spelling normally keeps the “u” in words like neighbour, labour, etc. Canada has words that befuddle Americans, like chesterfield.

As for the word soda, it depends on the region. The part of Canada I grew up in (Newfoundland) we would say “soft drink”. But Newfoundland English is a whole other thing entirely, so maybe not the best example.

I now live in Montreal, and Montreal English is unique too as it borrows some terms and syntax from Canadian French.

But I too hate “gifted”. And “on accident”.

On point. Add fake IMHO.
Tsk! 🤑

CanadaNotAMum · 05/02/2026 04:20

DoubleDoubleDown · 03/02/2026 17:28

How do we feel about Canadian language/vocabulary. You know they use pants, cookies, diapers, vacation, soda. Basically all the same as the States.

A lot of terms are the same for Canada and the US, but not all. And Canadian spelling normally keeps the “u” in words like neighbour, labour, etc. Canada has words that befuddle Americans, like chesterfield.

As for the word soda, it depends on the region. The part of Canada I grew up in (Newfoundland) we would say “soft drink”. But Newfoundland English is a whole other thing entirely, so maybe not the best example.

I now live in Montreal, and Montreal English is unique too as it borrows some terms and syntax from Canadian French.

But I too hate “gifted”. And “on accident”.