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to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

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exse24Londoner · 03/02/2026 16:35

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

OP posts:
Hellohelga · 03/02/2026 18:26

So many Scottish folk saying they say pants, but what about Donald Where’s Your Troosers? At least we know in London they are definitely trousers - often of the baggy or cor blimey variety.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:26

Northerngirl821 · 03/02/2026 17:37

YANBU. “Gotten”, a “slither” of cake, being “unphased” by a situation, “step” foot rather than set foot, off my own “back” instead of bat. There were even people on here the other day arguing that it’s “can’t be asked” instead of “can’t be arsed”.

I find it sad that people don’t seem to care or want to improve their English and any attempt to correct errors gets you screamed at because “they could be dyslexic!!!!”

Oh, and what is this trend of using “males” and “females” instead of “men” and “women” FFS?!

Edited

Gotten is correct. It's just not used in some dialects anymore.

The trend for female and male instead of woman and man is, I assume, due to the fact that woman and man now seem to refer to gender identity rather than sex.

Chinsupmeloves · 03/02/2026 18:26

It's all the media/YouTube vids from America, gaming, online stuff. Have heard DC say 'parking lot' and other such phrases, never say film but movie. We correct but seems irreversible and ingrained. Xx

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 03/02/2026 18:23

As you quite rightly say, language evolves. It's a natural and organic process. You can't police the reasons for that evolution.

Mama2many73 · 03/02/2026 18:22

Im in NE England and dont know ANYONE who uses the word pants for trousers.

Sweetiedarling7 · 03/02/2026 18:22

“Gifting” makes my teeth itch.
As does “elevate”.

RosieCottonDancing · 03/02/2026 18:22

“Gifting” irks me unreasonably 😂

Calling shops “stores”, ugh. “Shop in-store” - nooooo! Buy in the shop 😂

Abitofalark · 03/02/2026 18:21

Echobelly · 03/02/2026 16:38

The worst thing is when fashion editors describe a pair of trousers as 'a pant' . Seriously.

And then there's an elegant little short.

Badsox · 03/02/2026 18:21

"Can I get..." when ordering food or drink is my pet hate.

Surely it should be "Please can I have....."

ImogenBrocklehurst · 03/02/2026 18:19

Badatmostthings · 03/02/2026 16:39

Always been pants for trousers in the NW

Yes, but they are pants plural, not a single pant.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 03/02/2026 18:19

FeliciaFancybottom · 03/02/2026 18:11

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omgggg

eyes running GIF
BerryTwister · 03/02/2026 18:18

Maray1967 · 03/02/2026 17:13

Yes, we need to be careful what we’re complaining about. ‘Gotten’ would have been very familiar to people in the British Isles in the 17th C.

My particular gripe is over ‘upcoming’. What happened to ‘forthcoming’?

Ah the old "gotten has been around for hundreds of years in the UK" argument. The thing is, are the British people who say "gotten" (you know, the ones who used to say "got" until a couple of years ago) using that word because they've been reading lots of 17th century literature? Or could it possibly be because of something they've seen on Netflix.....

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/02/2026 18:18

romatheroamer · 03/02/2026 18:03

Hate split infinitives as in to boldly go sadly every few minutes on mn as elsewhere. Plus invites instead of invitations
On the other hand love the words used in the North Midlands by older relatives eg naughty for stroppy, shirty
Miserable for sullen, unfriendly

Split infinitives were deemed incorrect by 18th century grammarians who were trying to standardise the English language. They argued that because you could not split a Latin infinitive, and Latin was to them a ‘perfect’ language, therefore you should not split them in English.

Which is obviously complete balderdash. (There’s a lovely old word!). Latin infinitives are one word, English ditto are two.

TomvJerry · 03/02/2026 18:18

Hallywally · 03/02/2026 16:51

What you’re talking about IS the evolution of language. Terminology, meaning and word usage do change and evolve.

Your post is quite poorly written and very rambling. You aren’t really in a position to criticise others.

Young people today are clueless. Whenever I see lol at the end of a sentence I cringe. These people work in local authority God help us.

Mama2many73 · 03/02/2026 18:16

Toddlerteaplease · 03/02/2026 16:48

One of my colleagues says ‘elevator’ and ‘vit-a-mins, she also pronounces the letter Z as Zee. It makes my teeth itch.

I'd say lift and z-ed but I would also say vit-a-mins. Others might say 'vite-a-mins'

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:16

JamesClyman · 03/02/2026 16:45

YANBU. There is no such word in English as "gotten". It's "got"!

Yes there is. It's an old English word that has fallen out of fashion in some dialects but has been retained in others, such as hiberno English.

StopWindingBobStopWinding · 03/02/2026 18:15

JamesClyman · 03/02/2026 16:45

YANBU. There is no such word in English as "gotten". It's "got"!

‘Gotten’ arrived in the US with English settlers in the 16th century. It derives from Middle English and Old Norse, and was in common usage in England until later in the 17th century. It’s very much English.

BerryTwister · 03/02/2026 18:15

Cosyblankets · 03/02/2026 17:09

Hate the expression pissed!
I assume someone is drunk

Exactly!
"I arrived at the supermarket and someone took the parking place I was about to drive into. I was really pissed so I had a go at him".
I find myself thinking "What?!! You shouldn't be driving if you're drunk!"

Wintersgirl · 03/02/2026 18:14

I agree OP...

ABeerInTheSunshineMakesMeHappy · 03/02/2026 18:12

I can remember my mum complaining at me picking up Americanisms from watching TV shows like Starsky & Hutch and Charlie’s Angels in the 1970s! Nearly 50 years ago. Language evolves, think about changing slang and words that are ‘in’ for teenagers. And I don’t imagine any of us speak like Shakespeare on a regular basis. And then think of all the regional variances that are often discussed on here.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 03/02/2026 18:12

Realityvbelief · 03/02/2026 18:04

I know people mention American TV and media influencing us and it does of course- but I manage to watch and enjoy their films and programmes without speaking like a shit copy of them so I don't see why other people can't. "Reaching out" and "gifting" are extremely annoying as is the more and more common habit of asking where the "bathroom " is. It's a bloody toilet ! No one's going to faint if you say it.

Well first of all we can't all be like you, sadly 😞 and secondly some younger people who grew up with the internet, don't even know the difference - theatre V theater , I have seen many examples like this. Honestly, It's like trying to put toothpaste back into the tube .

HoppityBun · 03/02/2026 18:12

romatheroamer · 03/02/2026 18:03

Hate split infinitives as in to boldly go sadly every few minutes on mn as elsewhere. Plus invites instead of invitations
On the other hand love the words used in the North Midlands by older relatives eg naughty for stroppy, shirty
Miserable for sullen, unfriendly

I have an aversion to those who pick up on split infinitives without nuance, regarding this as some sort of signal of poor English usage. In the early C20, Fowler pointed out that a split infinitive is a stylistic choice and may be justified to avoid awkward language usage. He suggested that where split infinitives are concerned, English users divide into five types:

  1. Those who do not know or care
  2. Those who do not know but care greatly
  3. Those who know and condemn.
  4. Those who know and approve.
  5. Those who know and distinguish
Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 03/02/2026 18:12

LoveWine123 · 03/02/2026 18:10

You don’t shoot people here, you stab them.

Sorry, not legal.

Hollyhobbi · 03/02/2026 18:11

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 16:41

The irony of the typo in your title😀

Language evolves. We watch a lot of american TV/films/etc so americanisms are going to creep in.

In fairness though, I'm Irish and was utterly bemused when I realised pants means knickers in British English. Pants are trousers in hiberno english.

I'm 100% with you on corporate speak. It's a while since I left industry for academia so the buzz words have probably changed but no, I do not want to get in to bed with you, thanks all the same. The idea is really not sexy and no, I'm not reaching out to anyone as that could be considered inappropriate behaviour. I will, however, contact them.

Where do you live in Ireland? I'm Irish and have lived in 5 different counties and had a dad from Donegal and mum from Cork and not once have I ever heard pants used for anything except knickers! And trousers are trousers

FeliciaFancybottom · 03/02/2026 18:11

mumofoneAloneandwell · 03/02/2026 17:58

You’ll have to pry my gifs out of my cold, dead hands babes 🥰🥰

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