To be disgusted that Iranian dissidents are being branded "filthy Zionists" in London rally

@Twiglets1 is definitely 'discussing things in good faith'. Hope that helps your comprehension.

Israel also funded Hamas.

We should keep out of their mess because they all lie.

didnt vote, but as an Iranian citizen I despise those pro monarchists who align with Israel as much as those who want to see the continuation of the regime, both of whom are manipulating the pain and suffering of ordinary people for their own gains. No more do most people want a return to a monarchy than they do anything else. British people talking here about ‘the enemys enemy is not your friend’ need to be careful to understand that this works both ways. If you want to support Iranians then lobby your governments to remove the sanctions decimating our people.

The Iranian regime funds Hamas.
If the Iranian regime is toppled, Hamas will be in big financial trouble- they don't have many other friends in the Middle East.
It really is that simple.

Hamas are using their Western useful idiots to attack the Iranian protests- I would call the idiots morally bankrupt, but that would be assuming that they are capable of making fact based decisions rather than just parroting whatever slogans they have been told to parrot. They are an absolute embarrassment.

One thing I learnt from working weekends near Trafalgar Square was to ignore all speeches, banners and slogans at protest meetings.

They're all bullshit. Here today and gone tomorrow.

You're not unreasonable to be disgusted.

You'd be very unreasonable to be surprised.

Yes, it’s hatred of Israel.

This is were focusing on one side is problematic. Within the Palestinian society, gay/trans rights aren't great. Child marriage is very much a thing. Girls are dying because their bodies aren't equipped to deal with pregnancy, because they are children. Thus is within both groups. Both groups share a similar culture, being the same religion.

I think if that were the reason they’d have been calling the dissidents ‘filthy transphobes’ rather than ‘filthy Zionists’

That’s the clue it’s about Israel.

I'm just pointing out one possible reason why protesters may have a favourable view of the Iranian regime. Iran has been put forward as a 'progressive' regime in relation to trans rights. Whether that is true in fact is another question. Trans surgery has been developed in Iran as an alternative to being Gay, and requires full genital reassignment. This is ignored in the West who just think they are great for trans rights. .

But regarding the uprising in Iran surely it’s obvious to any decent person that the demonstrators are “on the right side”

Remember the same pro-Palestinians probably chant support for the Houthis (Yemen Yemen make us proud, turn another ship around) even though the Houthis are also objectively terrible.

But regarding the uprising in Iran surely it’s obvious to any decent person that the demonstrators are “on the right side”. They are living under an authoritarian regime that abuses basic human rights and that has murdered thousands of their own citizens just for protesting.
All I can think of is that Iran is relatively 'advanced' (as they would see it) when it comes to trans surgery (which is government funded) and trans rights. They ignore the fact that this is because the alternative to being a straight trans person is being a Gay person, which is illegal, and you will likely be stoned to death.

YANBU, but it's not exactly surprising.

A lot of those pro Palestinian activists have a ridiculously simplistic view of right and wrong, and have decided hating Israel is all thats needed to be on the "right" side. Anything that doesn't fit that world view is discarded as fake or unimportant.

To be fair, Wolfie was dimly benign. Rick was a caricature, or so we thought.

Not surprised at all.

YANBU of course, but reasoning has very little to do with the omnicause. We used to laugh at Wolfie Smith & Rick from The Young Ones, but these bods have taken them as role models.