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AIBU to cancel appt after she moved premises at short notice and ask for my deposit back?

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fluffandfaff · 02/02/2026 09:41

I use a dog groomer who was lovely and very local in my small village. – less than 5 minutes away, loads of parking right outside, no faff. I could drop dog off, come home for an hour, then pop back to collect. Perfect.
When I collected last time I booked my next appointment (for tomorrow, 3rd Feb) and paid a £25 deposit. I have no issue with her cancellation policy generally – 72 hours for refund minus £5 admin, after that full groom payable.

We have a personal email account we check a couple of times a week (mostly full of newsletter rubbish). Early Sunday morning (1st) I checked emails and found one from the groomer sent late Thursday evening saying she had moved premises.
New premises are about 6 miles further away, in a slightly dodgy part of a town, no parking directly outside. I’d have find somewhere to park somewhere else a way a way, in a very busy residential and industrial area and walk my nervous dog there. No chance of popping home either... I’d have to sit in the car for an hour waiting.
Worth saying: my preferred contact method is phone, which I’d selected, not email.
I messaged her on Sunday morning as soon as I saw the email, very politely, saying I’d like to cancel as travelling to the new premises is not viable, thanked her for her service and wished her luck. I also asked for my deposit back, accepting I was technically outside the 72 hours, but she had changed the terms by moving at short notice.
She replied very quickly saying she’d miss us but I was still liable to pay for the appointment, and that I’d had “plenty of time” to respond to the email (there was about 24 hours between her sending it and the start of the 72-hour window).
I replied saying I’d chosen phone contact and that less than 2 working days’ notice of a premises change didn’t feel reasonable. She then got quite rude, said I was being unreasonable, that it’s “only a 15-minute drive”, (realistically it is longer that with traffic etc and then finding parking) and that she told me at my last appointment she was moving. I genuinely don’t remember this and absolutely wouldn’t have rebooked if I’d known – I only used her because she was so local. The booking confirmation definitely still shows the old address. There were a lot of messages sent back and forwards, her saying her terms are perfectly clear and i was not getting a deposit refund and she would be invoicing for the entire appt. I told her that her t's&c's couldn't apply as SHE had moved the terms (address) outside of my control. She got quite arsey and she said she didn’t have time to argue as she’s stressed moving an entire business, then refunded me £20 and kept £5.
I mentioned it to a friend (very “don’t rock the boat” type) who said I should have just let her keep the whole deposit, but maybe argue the appt fee.
AIBU to think I was reasonable to cancel and ask for it back given she changed the location at short notice? Or should I have just sucked it up and let her keep the £25 AND paid for the rest of the appt?

OP posts:
Legomania · 02/02/2026 14:57

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 13:57

no, preconceived notions, like:

New premises are about 6 miles further away, in a slightly dodgy part of a town, no parking directly outside. I’d have find somewhere to park somewhere else a way a way, in a very busy residential and industrial area and walk my nervous dog there. No chance of popping home either... I’d have to sit in the car for an hour waiting.

OP has never even visited these premises, so it is ridiculous to cancel for these reasons IMO.

No chance of 'popping home' from 6 miles away?

Busy residential/industrial area but no parking?

Dog too nervous to walk down a street?

Whatever.

If it's inconvenient for op, it's inconvenient.
I would sack off the majority of my service providers if they moved six miles further away, as convenience is king to me because my time is short and there are plenty of other hairdressers/opticians etc nearby

Tryagain26 · 02/02/2026 14:50

UncannyFanny · 02/02/2026 10:07

But that leaves you open to missing things that could still require a response. I check my personal email every day. That’s not business either. It may be time to learn from this experience and check your personal email more often. We’re talking a few seconds here, it’s not going to take up your whole evening.

Bit even if she had checked the email it's still very short notice and OP isn't unreasonable to want her deposit back.
I have my email on my phone so can see what is coming in but I don't check through it often as most of it is promotional stuff.

Tryagain26 · 02/02/2026 14:43

She changed the terms by changing premises so you are not liable to pay her. I'm glad you got your money back.
She doesn't sound like a particularly pleasant person and you are probably better giving your business to someone else anyway

SnuffleTruffleHound · 02/02/2026 14:43

fluffandfaff · 02/02/2026 09:54

She said that it was 'short notice' so it didn't confuse people WHERE their next appt was and she was still working and so didn't have time.

So that disproves her argument of "I told you at the last appointment"

Londonrach1 · 02/02/2026 14:42

Yanbu. She should have refunded all.

Zov · 02/02/2026 14:37

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 02/02/2026 13:57

Our family hairdresser/salon owner relocated to new premises about 8 miles away - largely because of the increasing rent for the premises.

She mentioned it very clearly for months and months in advance. She was of the opinion that she would be delighted if a lot of her regulars did decide to move with her, but she didn't expect them to, as she had moved away.

Every appointment made, she would say e.g. "So this will be your last/last but one appointment here before we move premises"; or for those who had decided to follow her, "So this will be at our new premises in X-town - is that OK? Do you know how to find it?"

That's how an honourable, well-run business does this. And yes, we have all moved with her. It's less convenient to get to the new place, but she's a great hairdresser, lovely person and charges very fair rates, so it was a no-brainer for us (I appreciate it's different for those who don't drive).

Yeah, this happened with our NHS Dental Practice. They moved (after acquiring a shiny new building on a small industrial park, that was twice the size of the one they had.) They needed the extra room as 3 new dentists were starting. They were a mile further away, but there is parking there, and it's quite easy to get to (even for people who couldn't drive, as it's pretty much only an extra 10 or 15 minutes walk, and it's worth it to have an NHS dentist!) They told everyone by text, email, or in person, several months before the move. And posted it on facebook a few times.

Also, the local vets moved 2 years ago, but it was from the little market town to a slightly bigger market town (10 miles south) which was not great for most. Fortunately, a new vets opened 6 months later, (on the same little industrial park - 2 minutes walk from the dentist) started up by 4 people from that old vets who weren't happy that they had not only moved, but also been taken over by a big conglomerate, and they were charging twice as much as they should. (The takeover happened about 4 months before the move.)

But even they warned people 3 months before the move. Pretty much everyone got a text, or a letter in the mail, and it was posted on Facebook at least 4 times.

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Ewock · 02/02/2026 14:34

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 02/02/2026 10:59

It does change it though

She sent an email giving you time to cancel within her terms of "acceptable"

Because you decide your email aren't worth checking every day (most people check them multiple times a day and some even have them to their phone so pick them up immediently) you missed an important email and didn't reply for FOUR days

I'm on her side. She gave you chance, you not knowing was your own fault

Are you there dog groomer? 🤣 Most people do not check their emails every day, thats a huge generalisation.
If a business I am using moves premises I expect way more notice than this lady gave. Utterly ridiculous to make such a move and inform your customers in good time.

fluffandfaff · 02/02/2026 14:30

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 12:31

I am totally with you on not checking personal emails, my work ones ping up on my phone, my personal one is a lot of non-important junk coming through.. BUT if I missed an email because I hadn't checked my personal email then that is on me, she gave you plenty of notice about the location change, plus she said she told you in person last time she saw you.

I think you are being unreasonable because of the reason you have given for not going to the appointment! It's 6 miles away, I'd have kept the appointment this time, and then not re-book if her location doesn't suit you or your dog anymore. I think you are being massively snooty and judgmental about her new premises and you haven't even been there!

Demanding your deposit back is ridiculous IMO, when YOU didn't bother to check your emails and its YOU that doesn't want to keep the appointment because of your preconceived notions.

The issue for me isn’t whether I could physically get there once, it’s that the service I booked was at a specific location and that changed at very short notice, using a contact method I hadn’t selected. I wouldn’t have booked at all had I known the location was changing, and the booking confirmation still showed the old address. Despite her saying she told me verbally (doesn't count anyway) she absolutely didn't and I absolutely would not have booked. I am not sure how you can say that less than a week, and actually 2 working days notice is plenty! What a ridiculous comment.
I’m not being snooty about the new premises. I’m being realistic about parking, safety, and what works for my dog. Those are practical considerations, not judgements. Also I am not a confident driver, and never drive in towns or cities. I used her before as the location suited me.
In the end, she refunded all but £5, which suggests she accepted there was some responsibility on her side too. I’m happy to leave it there.

OP posts:
Dliplop · 02/02/2026 14:30

You’re completely in the right but I’d have forfeit the deposit if she pushed that and didn’t invoice. Any time a clinic I’ve worked at changed location we lost customers, had people show up at the wrong place and didn’t charge. It’s a cost of moving. We’d also verbally tell them starting 3 months out and have confirmations mention the new address, email a month out, email apt notice with it in the subject and call/text as normal.

Allisnotlost1 · 02/02/2026 14:29

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 13:57

no, preconceived notions, like:

New premises are about 6 miles further away, in a slightly dodgy part of a town, no parking directly outside. I’d have find somewhere to park somewhere else a way a way, in a very busy residential and industrial area and walk my nervous dog there. No chance of popping home either... I’d have to sit in the car for an hour waiting.

OP has never even visited these premises, so it is ridiculous to cancel for these reasons IMO.

No chance of 'popping home' from 6 miles away?

Busy residential/industrial area but no parking?

Dog too nervous to walk down a street?

Whatever.

Pretty sure ‘no parking’ and ‘too far for me to drive home and back within the hour’ are just facts. Maybe you don’t go out very often but it’s not always easy to park at industrial estates because, y’know, industry is going on. OP knows her dog and what they’d be comfortable with.

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 14:20

Iocanepowder · 02/02/2026 14:04

Ok lol.

Take your last point as an example. Perfectly valid reason and also reasonable for 6 miles to be a way away. It’s 4 miles to my nearest shopping centre and takes me 15 mins to drive there. Some people don’t have a spare 30 mins or more in their day.

Yes, and those reasons would make sense as to why she no longer wants to go there anymore, she's free to choose where she goes, but those reasons are ridiculous to use as an excuse for one appointment, one time (which will be her last one), which she could have EASILY attended.

The groomer told her in person about an upcoming move and gave her notice of the move in writing 4-5 days before the appointment.

OP has cancelled the appointment less than 72 hours before it was due.. not because she would have trouble getting there.. because she is unhappy about the move and doesn't want to put herself out in even the smallest way ONE time.

Very grey area. If I was OP I'd have kept this appointment then never gone again if it was that inconvenient, and if I was the dog groomer I would have given her the £20 back due to closeness of when I emailed.

I still think OP is being ridiculous though to have cancelled the appointment.

Iocanepowder · 02/02/2026 14:06

I would assume op tbh that as it’s unusual for a business to give such short notice on moving premise, the groomer has done this deliberately to try and keep deposits, knowing she is likely to lose some clients with the new location.

Iocanepowder · 02/02/2026 14:04

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 13:57

no, preconceived notions, like:

New premises are about 6 miles further away, in a slightly dodgy part of a town, no parking directly outside. I’d have find somewhere to park somewhere else a way a way, in a very busy residential and industrial area and walk my nervous dog there. No chance of popping home either... I’d have to sit in the car for an hour waiting.

OP has never even visited these premises, so it is ridiculous to cancel for these reasons IMO.

No chance of 'popping home' from 6 miles away?

Busy residential/industrial area but no parking?

Dog too nervous to walk down a street?

Whatever.

Ok lol.

Take your last point as an example. Perfectly valid reason and also reasonable for 6 miles to be a way away. It’s 4 miles to my nearest shopping centre and takes me 15 mins to drive there. Some people don’t have a spare 30 mins or more in their day.

Brooklyn70 · 02/02/2026 14:02

i think it’s good you fought for what you felt was fair for you, but I would encourage you to stop giving out your email address to businesses in case this happens again.

Iocanepowder · 02/02/2026 14:01

dadtoateen · 02/02/2026 13:10

I can only assume that the reason for an email stating the changes were probably due to the volume of customers, an email sent to many recipients is common in business.

It's not her fault you don't check emails often.

She said that she had mentioned the move to you at the last appointment, you couldn't remember if she did so she might have told you.

It's 6 miles away, yes the previous premises were easier for you but it's not her fault you don't want to drive 6 miles, have to park, can't nip home etc.

Hope you find another dog groomer closer by for you.

It’s not about whether op checks her emails or how often. The groomer only emailed with 24 hours before cancellation period. It is perfectly acceptable and normal not to respond to some emails immediately.

The groomer clearly know she was moving premises earlier, so should have sent this email much earlier, and should have also made op aware once again at time of booking, and should have provided the new address in writing.

I deal with a company who moved premises a while ago and it was all over their social media for months that they were moving.

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 13:57

Bollihobs · 02/02/2026 13:49

"preconceived notions" 😂

What, like expecting the appointment to be at the place you booked it to be at?? 🤔😂

no, preconceived notions, like:

New premises are about 6 miles further away, in a slightly dodgy part of a town, no parking directly outside. I’d have find somewhere to park somewhere else a way a way, in a very busy residential and industrial area and walk my nervous dog there. No chance of popping home either... I’d have to sit in the car for an hour waiting.

OP has never even visited these premises, so it is ridiculous to cancel for these reasons IMO.

No chance of 'popping home' from 6 miles away?

Busy residential/industrial area but no parking?

Dog too nervous to walk down a street?

Whatever.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 02/02/2026 13:57

Our family hairdresser/salon owner relocated to new premises about 8 miles away - largely because of the increasing rent for the premises.

She mentioned it very clearly for months and months in advance. She was of the opinion that she would be delighted if a lot of her regulars did decide to move with her, but she didn't expect them to, as she had moved away.

Every appointment made, she would say e.g. "So this will be your last/last but one appointment here before we move premises"; or for those who had decided to follow her, "So this will be at our new premises in X-town - is that OK? Do you know how to find it?"

That's how an honourable, well-run business does this. And yes, we have all moved with her. It's less convenient to get to the new place, but she's a great hairdresser, lovely person and charges very fair rates, so it was a no-brainer for us (I appreciate it's different for those who don't drive).

Bollihobs · 02/02/2026 13:54

Teado · 02/02/2026 13:26

I agree with you OP. You are not in the wrong here.

However, I’d cut her a bit of slack if she’s had to move suddenly due to an unexpected relationship breakdown or something horrible like that. I’m not saying you should though! Just saying that I might. And I guess you probably aren’t familiar with the reason anyway, otherwise it would be in your post.

But according to the groomer she knew she was moving at the OP's previous appointment because she claims to have told the OP about it then so it wasn't a last minute decision to move at all.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 02/02/2026 13:54

She should have phoned and offered you the opportunity to cancel. Quite possibly you might not have read the email at all and turned up at the old place.

Bollihobs · 02/02/2026 13:49

sandyhappypeople · 02/02/2026 12:31

I am totally with you on not checking personal emails, my work ones ping up on my phone, my personal one is a lot of non-important junk coming through.. BUT if I missed an email because I hadn't checked my personal email then that is on me, she gave you plenty of notice about the location change, plus she said she told you in person last time she saw you.

I think you are being unreasonable because of the reason you have given for not going to the appointment! It's 6 miles away, I'd have kept the appointment this time, and then not re-book if her location doesn't suit you or your dog anymore. I think you are being massively snooty and judgmental about her new premises and you haven't even been there!

Demanding your deposit back is ridiculous IMO, when YOU didn't bother to check your emails and its YOU that doesn't want to keep the appointment because of your preconceived notions.

"preconceived notions" 😂

What, like expecting the appointment to be at the place you booked it to be at?? 🤔😂

Mangelwurzelfortea · 02/02/2026 13:44

She was in the wrong but I'd still just write off the £5 and forget about it.

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 13:44

I would state to her you are not paying for the entire appointment, that if she doesn't deposit your deposit back into your account/send you a cheque, you will contact Small Claims. See what she says then. I bet she backs down.

CandiedPrincess · 02/02/2026 13:44

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 02/02/2026 10:59

It does change it though

She sent an email giving you time to cancel within her terms of "acceptable"

Because you decide your email aren't worth checking every day (most people check them multiple times a day and some even have them to their phone so pick them up immediently) you missed an important email and didn't reply for FOUR days

I'm on her side. She gave you chance, you not knowing was your own fault

Professionally, I always err on the side of caution, that not all emails are read. If it's important, you pick up the phone.

MimiSunshine · 02/02/2026 13:42

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 02/02/2026 10:59

It does change it though

She sent an email giving you time to cancel within her terms of "acceptable"

Because you decide your email aren't worth checking every day (most people check them multiple times a day and some even have them to their phone so pick them up immediently) you missed an important email and didn't reply for FOUR days

I'm on her side. She gave you chance, you not knowing was your own fault

You cannot possibly claim with absolute certainty that ‘Most people check their (personal) email every day or actually multiple times a day’.

You may do, a lot of other may do as well. But many don’t.

i for one don’t, im on work email all day. There is nothing in my personal email that is at that level of communication need.
also if a customer says that their preferred channel is phone, then the business has a duty to use that as the primary contact for updates or changes. They do not have a leg to stand on if they don’t follow customer instructions.

Maddy70 · 02/02/2026 13:40

She broke the t&Cs by changing the venue. Say you will go to trading standards I'd she doesn't refund in full