To have lost faith in men

Pornsick- in Porn World anything a woman does is sexual. According to BBC it tends to focus on lower body and 'intimate areas' - no surprises. Basically unsporting from a further distance.

I didn't totally get it
What's the interest in women going out and about. I guess it's something sexual?

Plenty of oppressed groups have done that historically, and it's never ended well.

Plenty of men do use vile language about women but the solution isn't to be vile back.

I am a tad surprised my post was deleted - I merely stated biological truths as well as personal opinions as to the attractiveness or lack thereof of men and their moral failings - I did not call for violence nor used any worse language than what they chose to name us

Sure you can

I’ve seen a few of these pop up on social media and they’re grim.

I think what really exposes the naysayers is a kind of Staniland question for the NAMALT debate:

"Think of the woman or girl you care about most. Imagine her walking alone down an empty street at night.

She sees a figure coming towards her out of the darkness."

Would you rather that the figure was a man or a woman?"

Assuming that they really care about that woman or girl, every. single. one. of them will answer the same way.

Every one.

It also shows, how, in one very real and impactful sense, to women, it is all men.

It was on the news tonight that women are being filmed on nights men. They don't know it's being done
Thern are uploading the footage to you tube and it's getting millions of views. You tube have had to take a few accounts down

It's grim. We can partly thank smartphones and the internet though. Another thing that couldn't have happened years ago.
Rm are just getting worse and worse. I bet they wouldn't like their wives or daughters filmed and put online,?

And if they don't want to fuck and molest you, then you get the shit for being unfuckable- too ugly, too fat, too pregnant, frigid or too old (never too young, though). Being unfuckable is a very big crime in patriarchy.

Sadly most men are complicit by staying silent and defending each other.
Watching porn.
Laughing at rape jokes.
Everyday misogyny.
As a group upholding victim blaming, minimising rape, minimising the Epstein files and other things like that.
Too many men, the majority of men? are happy to do these things.

The day that the majority of men stand up against porn, against sick jokes, when anonymous polls no longer show that nearly half of men (from a uni study) would rape a woman if he knew he’d get away with it, and 1 in 5 men would sexually assault a child if he knew he’d get away with it, when that day comes that men are equally revolted by male behaviour and actually make a stand against it, when that day comes I’ll happily agree with you.

Until that day I know you’re just one more man happy to keep the status quo.

@RamsaySnowsSausage exactly. I don't believe for one minute that there is a woman alive who hasn't been whistled at, catcalled, propositioned, groped, called a miserable cow (because she ignored a man's advances,) sexually assaulted, or even worse.... Maybe there is the odd woman here and there who has never been sexually assaulted or groped, but I am sure every woman alive has been whistled at and catcalled, and had a man fancying his chances trying it on with her.

I just don't believe any woman who says nothing has ever happened.... ever.

Thank you. Yeah and I don't consider my experiences anywhere near the more extreme end, pretty tame quotdian stuff. And no female friends or family who haven't experienced stuff.

There's been a few who have said they hadn't experienced anything but when I checked if that meant they had never been catcalled, never been groped in a club, never had to wear a different uniform to a male colleague, never been called bitch, cow, tart, whore, never been told to behave differently to their brother to their detriment, etc.and they ALL end up having something but don't class it as oppression because it is so, so, so normal.

None of that shit should be acceptable. None of it. Not to mention large scale, systematic trafficking and rape, rape as a war crime, the entire fucking sex industry and on and on and on.

She was, this is true. Do you think she was the mastermind, or was she guided by him. She is horrific but again, no one is saying women can’t and don’t. In terms of harm as a whole sex class, the majority of harm is caused by men. Statically proven. It’s brought up earlier in the thread when Myra Hindley and Rose West are mentioned. Main men are involved.

I agree with this.

On violent porn, surveys show violent content is a relatively small niche of overall pornography. But a large percentage of men watch porn, so the number of men who watch violent content will still be upsettingly high.

https://www.jmir.org/2020/5/e16702?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-023-02701-8?utm_source=chatgpt.com

'These creatures' - we can't fight dehumanisation with more dehumanisation.

You’re not wholly wrong but in fairness, it does ignore the fact that his right-hand person and partner in crime was female.

@Deadringer 100% nailed it there! ^ 👏

@BatchCookBabe one word jumped out at me from your post and that is 'superiority'. I think you have hit the nail on the head there. I think most men, in fact damn near all men, feel superior to women. This superiority allows them to 'other' women. They can pass comment on womens bodies and looks online and on the street, talk over them at work, watch violent porn without guilt or remorse, catcall, make passes at and harass women in public, and in more extreme cases beat, rape and kill women, especially women who are beneath them, prostitutes, 'easy' women, women from amother culture, imprisoned women, women of the enemy in wartime, at the end of the day, they are 'just' women.

First you try being patronising and now it's passive agression.

You aren't open to discussion or debate.

It'a a pity that your communication style is so lacking that you cannot engage is reasonable and meaningful debate.

I was opening to listening and perhaps even learning but sadly you can't provide anything worth engaging with any future.

I'm sorry you have such bad experiences.

Sadly, all your experiences are not rare. Despite a small handful of posters claiming 'Not My Nigel.'

It's exasperating.

Actual wow.

How can more men cheat than women? Surely it has to be the same?

No point wasting your breath and wearing yourself down trying to get certain posters to 'get it.' They're not listening, they don't want to hear it.'

It's like trying to put out the sun with a child's water pistol.

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