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AIBU or is this understandable?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

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Furning · 02/02/2026 00:35

FrodoBiggins · 02/02/2026 00:30

@Furning I'm afraid I can only conclude that some people here have either never been to a hotel or never had a friend. Or both?

That would certainly explain it.

If I was to be generous I’d think that maybe people were imagining a Premier Inn with limited food, but having been told it’s a nice hotel and, crucially, that I was not invited, I have no idea why they’re so determined I didn’t see her because I didn’t offer to take a Boots meal deal round whilst expressing it was fine if she didn’t speak to me at all and her toddler was naked,

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wordler · 02/02/2026 00:35

Furning · 02/02/2026 00:24

She had an upset toddler, she hadn’t vanished off the face of the earth. What would your extremely concerned friends do? Offer child friendly activities? Offer to come to them? Offer their home? What else?

I did not know how popular it was to eat pre-made, uncooked food in hotel rooms (and call it dinner). Anyway, I thought the point of the food was to make things easier for her because she initially allegedly didn’t have time for food and needed me to feed her and her children. Then, having sorted out how easy it actually is to lift a phone receiver, the problem became that room service wasn’t nice. Once established it is a nice hotel, it is now that it’s just a fun thing to eat prepackaged sandwiches in a hotel room.

But I was not invited to the hotel so she obviously didn’t want to make a night of it in that setting.

If all it was was an upset toddler then your friend, who you keep telling us is a capable adult woman who managed to get three children across Europe, and had her sister with her, would not have had to cancel all her plans and stay in a hotel and not go out for a whole week.

If you believe her when she tells you that's what happened, then something was seriously wrong.

I've forgotten the timeline now but if you only discovered that she'd not been out of the hotel the whole week after the week was over - then there's not much you could do. But now you know that's the scenario I don't understand why you've jumped to calling her flaky or rude before worrying about her.

Unless deep down you don't believe her, and you think she just couldn't be bothered to make the effort and has made an excuse.

FrodoBiggins · 02/02/2026 00:30

@Furning I'm afraid I can only conclude that some people here have either never been to a hotel or never had a friend. Or both?

Furning · 02/02/2026 00:29

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:19

Well, if you made an offer of a casual hotel visit where they didn't have to prep, prepare or order anything for you and they rejected that specific offer then again either:

You are right this friendship has run its course and they are not bothered about seeing you

Or your friend was really struggling and needs your sympathy and not judgement.

😂 What on Earth are you talking about? Maybe your hotel room experience is affecting you.

People don’t message their friends suggesting plans which involve instructions about what the other person needs to wear, prep, or prepare (or otherwise). You seem determined to insist that my friend would’ve loved nothing more than me turning up (with food). She clearly didn’t want me there.

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FrodoBiggins · 02/02/2026 00:26

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:20

Have you never done an indoor picnic with small children - they love the novelty.

Yes when bored of having the same old meals at home.

I imagine room service in a hotel in a new city is rather more of a novelty though. Or even venturing to the hotel restaurant or cafe/bar if OP friend could have stretched to that. But it's all irrelevant because OP offered to go to the hotel and friend said no

Furning · 02/02/2026 00:24

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:17

I honestly don't see what's so strange about bringing gifts of food to a friend. Or taking things to a hotel. There are a few of us stuck in a hotel for over a week now because of the severe storm in the USA at the moment and we have vulnerable family members we couldn't risk being stuck in a rural location.

We all have suites with kitchens and there are obviously take out options and the hotel room service. But we've all brought our own supplies - someone even has a full cocktail bar offerings.

If I had an old friend in this town and we couldn't get out to see them because of the snow (substitute for meltdown toddler in OP's scenario) I think it would be wonderful if they wanted to bring dinner over to the hotel, or just wine etc.

When my DD was a baby I flew back to the UK many times and stayed in London hotels - again similar scenario friends would come to me if I couldn't make it out to them and they'd offer to bring food and wine so we could make a night of it together in a more relaxed setting.

If I'd told an old friend that I was coming to London for a week partly to see them and then I kept cancelling and said I hadn't been able to leave the hotel for a week they would be extremely worried about me and for me, not for themselves.

She had an upset toddler, she hadn’t vanished off the face of the earth. What would your extremely concerned friends do? Offer child friendly activities? Offer to come to them? Offer their home? What else?

I did not know how popular it was to eat pre-made, uncooked food in hotel rooms (and call it dinner). Anyway, I thought the point of the food was to make things easier for her because she initially allegedly didn’t have time for food and needed me to feed her and her children. Then, having sorted out how easy it actually is to lift a phone receiver, the problem became that room service wasn’t nice. Once established it is a nice hotel, it is now that it’s just a fun thing to eat prepackaged sandwiches in a hotel room.

But I was not invited to the hotel so she obviously didn’t want to make a night of it in that setting.

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wordler · 02/02/2026 00:20

FrodoBiggins · 02/02/2026 00:07

Like eating on the floor?

Have you never done an indoor picnic with small children - they love the novelty.

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:19

Furning · 02/02/2026 00:16

Your friend in this scenario does not want you to go.

Well, if you made an offer of a casual hotel visit where they didn't have to prep, prepare or order anything for you and they rejected that specific offer then again either:

You are right this friendship has run its course and they are not bothered about seeing you

Or your friend was really struggling and needs your sympathy and not judgement.

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:17

PhaedraWas · 01/02/2026 23:28

That's not true. There was at least one poster wittering on about bringing Pringles and I'm sure there were others talking about bringing stuff.

I honestly don't see what's so strange about bringing gifts of food to a friend. Or taking things to a hotel. There are a few of us stuck in a hotel for over a week now because of the severe storm in the USA at the moment and we have vulnerable family members we couldn't risk being stuck in a rural location.

We all have suites with kitchens and there are obviously take out options and the hotel room service. But we've all brought our own supplies - someone even has a full cocktail bar offerings.

If I had an old friend in this town and we couldn't get out to see them because of the snow (substitute for meltdown toddler in OP's scenario) I think it would be wonderful if they wanted to bring dinner over to the hotel, or just wine etc.

When my DD was a baby I flew back to the UK many times and stayed in London hotels - again similar scenario friends would come to me if I couldn't make it out to them and they'd offer to bring food and wine so we could make a night of it together in a more relaxed setting.

If I'd told an old friend that I was coming to London for a week partly to see them and then I kept cancelling and said I hadn't been able to leave the hotel for a week they would be extremely worried about me and for me, not for themselves.

Furning · 02/02/2026 00:16

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:06

It's fun for six year olds to do that kind of thing when stuck in a hotel for a week. If my friend had a six year old stuck in a hotel for a week I'd love to do something to help entertain her.

Your friend in this scenario does not want you to go.

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Furning · 02/02/2026 00:15

PhaedraWas · 02/02/2026 00:12

The OP was never invited to the hotel.

Thank you!!!!

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PhaedraWas · 02/02/2026 00:12

wordler · 01/02/2026 23:08

FFS the only person obsessed with snacks is the OP.

I suggested bringing lunch, wine and treat for the kids because that’s what I’d do for my friends in the same situation.

The OP was never invited to the hotel.

FrodoBiggins · 02/02/2026 00:07

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:06

It's fun for six year olds to do that kind of thing when stuck in a hotel for a week. If my friend had a six year old stuck in a hotel for a week I'd love to do something to help entertain her.

Like eating on the floor?

wordler · 02/02/2026 00:06

Furning · 01/02/2026 23:36

There was also the carpet picnic suggestion.

The mind boggles.

It's fun for six year olds to do that kind of thing when stuck in a hotel for a week. If my friend had a six year old stuck in a hotel for a week I'd love to do something to help entertain her.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 02/02/2026 00:05

I have a pretty hardcore toddler who was also a very emotional (spicy) baby so can imagine what OPs friend went through on this trip.

Bundling the kid on the plane is easy when you're filled with optimism that the kid will settle once you're in the hotel / adjusted after a few days.

Then it rapidly dawns on you on day 2 that this kid is not going to calm down, and if anything they're getting more dysregulated due to your own stress levels from having dealt with constant tantrums for days on end (largely unsupported by anyone competent).

I can imagine your friend was actually deeply disappointed in not being able to see you but simply didn't have the bandwidth to figure out a way of making it happen in a way where both of you could have a pleasant time

In a few years hopefully her children will be older and she can travel solo, but I think in this case she was probably desperate to socialise and hopelessly naive about the practicalities of making it happen / the toddler has become harder in the interval between booking the trip and the trip actually occurring

Just basing the above suggestions on my own last few holidays with my toddler, who I adore, but is hard work and did not make pleasant work of any of the trips we went on (in fact it took 1 week of me being back at work to recover from our christmas trip to Poland!)

FrodoBiggins · 01/02/2026 23:47

Furning · 01/02/2026 23:36

There was also the carpet picnic suggestion.

The mind boggles.

Pyjama carpet picnic with the ubiquitous naked toddler

Furning · 01/02/2026 23:36

PhaedraWas · 01/02/2026 23:28

That's not true. There was at least one poster wittering on about bringing Pringles and I'm sure there were others talking about bringing stuff.

There was also the carpet picnic suggestion.

The mind boggles.

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Furning · 01/02/2026 23:34

Stompythedinosaur · 01/02/2026 23:23

I think what's surprising me on this thread is how the op describes an alleged friend having a really horrible experience, but can only focus on her own feelings because this meant her plans were disrupted.

It honestly doesn't sound like you care about her.

Well, it is my thread. I’m not discussing it with her.

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Furning · 01/02/2026 23:33

FrodoBiggins · 01/02/2026 23:22

Why on earth would you eat packaged sandwiches and drink prosecco out of a water glass in a nice hotel?
OP's friend is both rich, and presumably saving tonnes of money on the holiday by not doing anything at all. Anyway I agree with OP it's so infantilising to say "oh don't worry if you look like shit I'll come round with bovril and a bit of cheese" when friend has repeatedly made it clear she can't see her at all. Leaving the ball in her court was the right thing to do.

OP though I do wonder if it's deeper given your suspicions about DH issues, and now her obviously feeling bad about it and messaging you a lot. She might be going through some stuff. But I would still give her space.

The poster has also mentioned how awful it is that I expect my friend to order expensive alcohol and food for me. I never mentioned anything of the sort - only that my friend doesn’t need me bringing snacks and M&S sandwiches round when she’s got a kitchen and chefs at her disposal.

Anyway, yes, I think you’re right. I think I’m going to message and see if there’s any way she can get away for a night. Just to try and check there’s nothing deeper going on.

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PhaedraWas · 01/02/2026 23:30

wordler · 01/02/2026 23:08

FFS the only person obsessed with snacks is the OP.

I suggested bringing lunch, wine and treat for the kids because that’s what I’d do for my friends in the same situation.

Edited to delete duplicate post

PhaedraWas · 01/02/2026 23:28

wordler · 01/02/2026 23:08

FFS the only person obsessed with snacks is the OP.

I suggested bringing lunch, wine and treat for the kids because that’s what I’d do for my friends in the same situation.

That's not true. There was at least one poster wittering on about bringing Pringles and I'm sure there were others talking about bringing stuff.

FrodoBiggins · 01/02/2026 23:25

Stompythedinosaur · 01/02/2026 23:23

I think what's surprising me on this thread is how the op describes an alleged friend having a really horrible experience, but can only focus on her own feelings because this meant her plans were disrupted.

It honestly doesn't sound like you care about her.

Having a clingy child is not "a really horrible experience" though, it's a rubbish holiday but it's not - as someone also described the journey - "traumatic".
OP is miffed, as I would be if my friend was that close and couldn't find a single moment for me in a week.

Furning · 01/02/2026 23:24

Penelopeandherpitstop · 01/02/2026 23:08

Clearly shirking your friend responsibilities there, OP. This was your chance for a daring snack mission. Simply unbelievable you wouldn't do this for a friend in need.

I should’ve tried to smuggle them in through the six year old I should’ve taken out.

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Stompythedinosaur · 01/02/2026 23:23

I think what's surprising me on this thread is how the op describes an alleged friend having a really horrible experience, but can only focus on her own feelings because this meant her plans were disrupted.

It honestly doesn't sound like you care about her.

FrodoBiggins · 01/02/2026 23:22

wordler · 01/02/2026 21:02

You didn’t answer my question - do you have the type of friendship that is relaxed and happy with a messy, casual catch up in each other’s hotel room, without any need to dress up, or worry about cleaning up any mess in the room. Who’d be happy with a couple of sandwiches from M&S and to share a bottle of prosecco using the glasses from the hotel bathroom, while being interrupted by the kids?

I have friends who I feel comfortable enough when having a bad week to be that relaxed with.

I have other friends who are great fun to meet up with when everything is going well but can’t roll with the messy stuff.

You keep mentioning room service. I’d never expect a friend to order overpriced alcohol and often very limited room service food for me.

You keep saying how capable your friend has always been.

So in this scenario she wasn’t coping for some reason in which case give her grace

or

She’s just not that into you anymore - so let it drift away.

Why on earth would you eat packaged sandwiches and drink prosecco out of a water glass in a nice hotel?
OP's friend is both rich, and presumably saving tonnes of money on the holiday by not doing anything at all. Anyway I agree with OP it's so infantilising to say "oh don't worry if you look like shit I'll come round with bovril and a bit of cheese" when friend has repeatedly made it clear she can't see her at all. Leaving the ball in her court was the right thing to do.

OP though I do wonder if it's deeper given your suspicions about DH issues, and now her obviously feeling bad about it and messaging you a lot. She might be going through some stuff. But I would still give her space.