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AIBU or is this understandable?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

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Furning · 01/02/2026 15:47

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 15:39

So have you been off with her since then? Are you going to raise this with her?

or are you just going to move on and message that you look forward to getting together with her asap

How could I be off with her? I haven’t seen her.

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figgyputty · 01/02/2026 15:47

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:30

So I’m expected to help with her kids but not actually see my friend? Pull the other one 🙄.

Surely as godmother to one of the children, you don't mention which, you'd be happy to take them out/spend time with them.

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:46

DeQuin · 01/02/2026 15:38

I have three ND kids. My ability to sustain friendships in the way I did pre-DC has been shot to hell. A few of my friendships have survived it, but I get cut A LOT of slack by those people. I am no longer actively friends with many of my friends who did not have DC at all because the gulf of life experience is so incredibly wide. (There are a few exceptions.)

I'm not saying her kids are ND but having kids is WAY HARDER than you ever imagine and kid number 3 might be tipping her over the edge.

I get why you are disappointed OP with how things panned out, but I would absolutely not be taking it personally, I would read it as 100% she is having a beyond shit time of epic proportions.

She got from her home across Europe to be ten minutes away from mine. We were close geographically for the first time in two years. And she couldn’t find an hour in a week, even to come to mine or meet me at the hotel? This is what I am admittedly struggling to get my head around

It’s not the same as friends who can’t make breakfast or whatever because of a child related issue but we can catch up another time.

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SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 01/02/2026 15:45

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:35

This is what I had thought but my husband thinks that the toddler cant have meant that it was impossible to see her at the hotel, my house, the park, a walk etc.

He thinks I should knock the gifts on the head until it is more of a two way friendship.

Nooo. I disagree....
I think she sounds absolutely frazzled and like shes nothing thinking straight / struggling (very understandably) to keep the train on the track.

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 15:45

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:39

It didn’t have to be meeting in public.

She was thinking of you

she didn’t want you to be subjected to three young children who were unsettled and very needy of her

Rusalina · 01/02/2026 15:44

She took three children, including a 6 month old baby, on holiday to another country and didn’t leave the hotel? It sounds like she may have been in a bit of a state. At 6 months PP with my second baby I probably could have done anything as normal. But with my first, I had some sort of post partum anxiety or depression or whatever it was - I was a total mess until about 9 months PP I reckon.

She could very easily be suffering badly and be able to hide it relatively well - I know I did. Making over ambitious plans and then finding myself unable to fulfil them in any way whatsoever reminds me of myself when I had PPD.

I’d be willing to bet she was having quite a bad time and didn’t feel up to visitors. Perhaps she just didn’t feel able to show you that she was struggling - it’s often really hard to admit you’re suffering post partum as it feels like you’re failing at the one thing that matters most to you.

YANBU to be disappointed but I think it would be mean spirited to hold it against her when the evidence clearly points to a woman who had good intentions but is struggling.

JLou08 · 01/02/2026 15:41

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:36

Self centred because I want to actually spend time with my friend?

Because it's all about you and what you want with zero empathy or understanding for your friend. I know you've said a few times you send gifts, that is not having understanding or empathy.

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 01/02/2026 15:39

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:21

Yes, because I am friends with her mother.

Being godmother isn't just about being friends with her mother FFS

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:39

FailMeOnce · 01/02/2026 15:28

I'm sorry to say it because I know it's irritating to hear, but I wouldn't have really understood this before I had children either, but I do now.

I expect, if anything, she's even more gutted than you that she couldn't slip off for an hour or two to catch up. She's evidently really tried to rearrange and then texted to apologise when it couldn't happen so I'd say she really did try.

If her toddler was being that much of a handful you'd have had absolutely no opportunity to catch up even if she'd managed to manhandle everyone out of the door as she'd be managing whatever meltdown was occurring in public and while you looked on. Her stress levels (and potentially that of her children, who knows?) would have risen and risen. And honestly, I expect you'd be on here complaining about how she was when you met up with her (e.g. that she never managed to listen to a complete sentence from you about how you are, and you seemed to be expected to be very hands on with these children you don't know).

My advice is to swallow your disappointment and give her some grace. Better luck next time!

It didn’t have to be meeting in public.

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zoemum2006 · 01/02/2026 15:39

Unless you think she was lying about her kid and actually just blanking you because she had loads of better stuff to do I can't understand why you'd be angry/ upset with her?

Do you think she wanted/ enjoyed spending time in a hotel with three little kids who were acting up. That sounds hellish!

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 15:39

So have you been off with her since then? Are you going to raise this with her?

or are you just going to move on and message that you look forward to getting together with her asap

DeQuin · 01/02/2026 15:38

I have three ND kids. My ability to sustain friendships in the way I did pre-DC has been shot to hell. A few of my friendships have survived it, but I get cut A LOT of slack by those people. I am no longer actively friends with many of my friends who did not have DC at all because the gulf of life experience is so incredibly wide. (There are a few exceptions.)

I'm not saying her kids are ND but having kids is WAY HARDER than you ever imagine and kid number 3 might be tipping her over the edge.

I get why you are disappointed OP with how things panned out, but I would absolutely not be taking it personally, I would read it as 100% she is having a beyond shit time of epic proportions.

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 15:38

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:36

Self centred because I want to actually spend time with my friend?

Self centred because you don’t seem to fully grasp her situation. Three very young children including a baby - plans change at the drop of a hat

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:36

JLou08 · 01/02/2026 15:21

You sound really self centred and absolutely clueless about the realities of parenting.

Self centred because I want to actually spend time with my friend?

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Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 01/02/2026 15:35

It’s tough being a mother and it’s even tougher when the kids don’t behave as you’d like them to.

It’s disappointing you didn’t see your friend but I think she did the best she could and did intend to meet you, it just couldn’t happen this time.

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:35

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 01/02/2026 15:20

It doesn't sound as if she didn't want to meet you, it sounds as if she couldn't.
YANBU to be disappointed, YABU to blame her.

This is what I had thought but my husband thinks that the toddler cant have meant that it was impossible to see her at the hotel, my house, the park, a walk etc.

He thinks I should knock the gifts on the head until it is more of a two way friendship.

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StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 01/02/2026 15:30

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:50

Try and read the OP again. I did not say I would drop her as a friend.

You probably should

You clearly don't like her

FailMeOnce · 01/02/2026 15:28

I'm sorry to say it because I know it's irritating to hear, but I wouldn't have really understood this before I had children either, but I do now.

I expect, if anything, she's even more gutted than you that she couldn't slip off for an hour or two to catch up. She's evidently really tried to rearrange and then texted to apologise when it couldn't happen so I'd say she really did try.

If her toddler was being that much of a handful you'd have had absolutely no opportunity to catch up even if she'd managed to manhandle everyone out of the door as she'd be managing whatever meltdown was occurring in public and while you looked on. Her stress levels (and potentially that of her children, who knows?) would have risen and risen. And honestly, I expect you'd be on here complaining about how she was when you met up with her (e.g. that she never managed to listen to a complete sentence from you about how you are, and you seemed to be expected to be very hands on with these children you don't know).

My advice is to swallow your disappointment and give her some grace. Better luck next time!

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 15:27

She had her hands full. Big time. She wanted to see you but when the time came - she couldn’t swing it.

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:21

Uricon2 · 01/02/2026 15:03

So I’m expected to help with her kids but not actually see my friend? Pull the other one

Her children are lovely but I don’t know them and I’m not friends with them.

But you are godmother to one of them.

Yes, because I am friends with her mother.

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JLou08 · 01/02/2026 15:21

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:04

I don’t want to spend a day babysitting a child I don’t know. Babysitting the kids, sending them gifts - all apparently expected and a sign of being a good friend.

But I shouldn’t expect any time or conversation with my friend? We don’t holiday together any more, although she says every few months that we should book somewhere then she, reasonably, can’t leave the kids. When I visit her, she needs to get home early to see her husband. When she visits me, I should step up and babysit but not expect a conversation with her? Where exactly is the friendship for me?

Not to mention how odd the six year old would find it in a strange country with a woman she’d have no memory of.

You sound really self centred and absolutely clueless about the realities of parenting.

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 01/02/2026 15:20

It doesn't sound as if she didn't want to meet you, it sounds as if she couldn't.
YANBU to be disappointed, YABU to blame her.

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:18

Dartmoorcheffy · 01/02/2026 15:01

Maybe because the 6 year old is your goddaughter?

No, she isn’t?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 15:17

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 01/02/2026 14:55

So she was on "holiday" with her sister and 3 kids in a cold city and never left the hotel 😵‍💫sounds shit!!!

I've got a 3 and 2 yr old.
Yanbu.
I'd have said are you willing to come meet for a few hours after kids go to sleep on a couple of evenings... we can gave a wine in rhe lobby while my sister watched the kids.

Your friend is 6m postpartum though and has 3 kids so it may be her brain is just fucking fried (which would explain going to a beautiful city in winter and trapping the kids inside the hotel for a week 😵‍💫)

She said the toddler’s sleep was awful and she’d have felt guilty leaving her with her sister, which I understand.

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KimberleyClark · 01/02/2026 15:10

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:06

If I’d seen her, I’d have been an extra pair of hands, wouldn’t I?

Yes, and it doesn’t sound like she was falling over herself to invite you to the hotel.