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AIBU or is this understandable?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

OP posts:
Keroppi · 01/02/2026 17:22

Stop sending her kids presents now maybe just do Xmas or bdays only and keep a strict budget, stuff like colouring books or pens etc. Then you can peter that out over a year or so

I would be gutted and annoyed my friend wouldn't even allow me over to the hotel? I think I would have just walked to the hotel to see her if I were you though, but if she really insisted then I would have stayed home I guess.

I think she obvs just came to see her sister ans you were an afterthought/a "chore" and she just didn't prioritise you

So don't prioritise her anymore. I think she keeps you as a harkening back to her childfree days but obviously isn't wanting to put effort in. Which is fine. But you can feel hurt over that.
I disagree with the previous comments about cutting her some slack. She seriously couldn't have just walked down the lobby to see you or had you up in the room for a quick hello? Even if toddler unwell.

wordler · 01/02/2026 17:21

@Furning what did she say when you offered to come to her hotel room?

Did you offer to bring coffee/wine etc and hang out with her in her room with no pressure to go out? Or did you offer to come to her and help her get out of the hotel to go for a walk?

I don’t see why she wouldn’t have minded you popping up to the hotel too for a quick catch up but she had clearly said she couldn’t leave the hotel room with the toddler so if you had implied coming to her and then still going out I could see why she said no.

Spookyspaghetti · 01/02/2026 17:19

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:42

To be clear, you think I should go and take out a six year old child I haven’t seen in two years to help out her mother who I also haven’t seen in two years, without actually seeing my friend?

Her children are lovely but I don’t know them and I’m not friends with them.

She got three kids across Europe. I dare say she could get them across a corridor.

Edited

I think it is interesting that you have separated your friend into two people here: Firstly, the mother of three small children you haven’t seen in two years who wouldn’t really be worth your time and, secondly, your ‘friend’ sans children who might be worth going for a coffee with.

It sounds like it was very hard for your friend. She tried a couple of times to see you and it just didn’t work out. Maybe just let it go. If you give her some grace in this occasion there may well be lots of times in the future when the kids are older when she has more time to get together.

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:17

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:12

I knew from the very first present that it would be one way. But what irritates me is that it has eventually become literally only hearing from her when she says thank you for a present.

So really it’s been fizzling out for years
She doesn’t sound bothered and you don’t really either now

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 01/02/2026 17:16

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:30

So I’m expected to help with her kids but not actually see my friend? Pull the other one 🙄.

Yes, a real friend would do this.

Your friend was exhausted and frazzled. It would have helped her if you'd taken the oldest child out.

You don't understand what it's like to have children.

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:12

Jinxjacobs · 01/02/2026 16:57

This sounds spot on to me; your friend sounds overwhelmed, and reading your initial post I wondered if she knew the mask would slip (on this plan, life in general, marriage - something!) if she saw you. Something hinky.

I understand why you feel hurt, and if you think you need some space.

The presents are trickier, tbh - maybe you won't have kids and it won't get 'repaid' but in some ways if you do see it that way, you are also best to stop. It's a signal if it brings resentment or feels transactional. But it is quite an outgoing as well as a sign you care.

It also brought to mind an early episode of curb your enthusiasm (niche maybe),where they fall out, but Richard tells Larry they have enough 'good stuff in the bank' (I'm mangling the quote, btw) to let this one slide. I use that in my own life and you'll know when it's overdrawn!

I knew from the very first present that it would be one way. But what irritates me is that it has eventually become literally only hearing from her when she says thank you for a present.

OP posts:
Furning · 01/02/2026 17:10

Gahr · 01/02/2026 16:57

Why on earth should OP do all that? That said, this is why I dont really have any close friends who have children. This sort of thing is going to happen all the time.

I have lots of friends with children who I really love to see. But, other than my nieces, I would never take them out without their mother

OP posts:
Furning · 01/02/2026 17:07

Imdunfer · 01/02/2026 16:49

I have read all your posts now and the only "unreasonable" bit I can see is not realising that this relation, as far as your friend is concerned, is over.

I guess the most likely explanation is that she feels it's run its course, but I can't help wondering if there was something she doesn't want you to see. Bruises on her, or her children?

Mmm. This is a horrible thought, but not one I could rule out. She was unhappy last time I spoke to her. It is so hard to speak to her though.

OP posts:
Colourz · 01/02/2026 17:06

I think your friend is going through hell. And over ambitious with her plans. I wouldn’t be surprised if she one day leaves her husband and has her toddler diagnosed or whatever and you one day look back thinking about this holiday and her general crapness in a different light. Still I think you’re right to step away.

Ponoka7 · 01/02/2026 17:05

I'd be wondering if her husband is controlling her behaviour. I wouldn't cut her off, I'd message her a open question on how she is.
Is their country as cold as your's? She might have underestimated how the children would be out in it.

Spookyspaghetti · 01/02/2026 17:05

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:24

Yes! Did not leave the hotel except for one attempt to go to the park.

Things must have been incredibly hard for that to have been the case. It’s stressful travelling alone with one child, let alone three. Does she normally travel alone with the kids? I’d be wondering if something else is up.

moose62 · 01/02/2026 17:03

I don't know why the OP is having such a hard time from responders.

I think your friend just isn't that invested in the friendship.

You suggested everything you could, she was the one putting obstacles in the way.
An unsettled grumpy child might have been better not cooped up in an hotel room.
I think the friendship will fade naturally, which is a shame. Perhaps start just sending token presents to the children but obviously something for your God child.

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:02

ProfessorBinturong · 01/02/2026 16:47

I don't have children. I don't like children of that age. I have as little to do with them as possible.

I would still have been able to work out that she was (for whatever reason) going through a week of utter hell, and would have offered to either take some/all of the children out for an hour or sit with some/all of them in the hotel room while she got out for a bit to get her head together. At the end of which, she may well have had the mental space for a short catch up.

If she cannot leave the toddler with her sister, how is she going to leave her with me? Do you think I have special toddler whisperer abilities? And it is clear you don’t spend much time with young children. They’re not usually keen on spending the day with an adult stranger.

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ProfessorBinturong · 01/02/2026 17:01

Whaleandsnail6 · 01/02/2026 16:56

If their own mother couldn't handle leaving the hotel with them, what makes you think a practical stranger to the children would be able to take them out? I doubt a 6 year old, 3 year old and 6 month old would want to go out with someone they don't know.

The friend had a reasonable, workable solution of op helping her take them out for a change of scenery, she just didn't want to take that

I'm certainly not suggesting it would have been enjoyable for anyone. At the end of an hour I'd probably be ready to gnaw my own arm off to escape. But it would have given her a break if only to go for a walk round the block. Even if she didn't accept, sometimes an offer can help - or give her a laugh at the prepostrousness of it.

SapphireSeptember · 01/02/2026 17:01

Wemetatascoutcamp · 01/02/2026 16:33

OP years ago I had a friend who criticised me & my parenting- she couldn’t understand why I couldn’t get my toddler to just “behave” and thought children should just fit in with parents plans- 6 years later she found out when she had her own son the reality of life with young children.

If your friend had been out and about all week and just didn’t meet you i’d have thought she was a rubbish friend but she didn’t she was stuck in a hotel room with 3 young children- that is not fun for anyone. From your posts it doesn’t sound like you have much experience of young children and your friend probably realises you wouldn’t have appreciated catching up in her hotel room with a screaming toddler and 2 other children, you’ve said multiple times you weren’t interested in seeing the children only your friend but thats fairly difficult when young children are involved. I think possibly you and your friend are at different life stages now which means her priorities are different to yours unfortunately but don’t take it personally its just life!

Kids do have to fit in with parents' plans though. I had a dentist appointment earlier this week, so I was getting me and my 18 month old DS ready and out the door no matter what he thought about it.

nomas · 01/02/2026 17:00

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

Stop all presents.

She is a user.

Jinxjacobs · 01/02/2026 16:57

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:53

This is a very fair point. I did actually wonder if all was well in her marriage for a few reasons. Maybe there is more going on.

This sounds spot on to me; your friend sounds overwhelmed, and reading your initial post I wondered if she knew the mask would slip (on this plan, life in general, marriage - something!) if she saw you. Something hinky.

I understand why you feel hurt, and if you think you need some space.

The presents are trickier, tbh - maybe you won't have kids and it won't get 'repaid' but in some ways if you do see it that way, you are also best to stop. It's a signal if it brings resentment or feels transactional. But it is quite an outgoing as well as a sign you care.

It also brought to mind an early episode of curb your enthusiasm (niche maybe),where they fall out, but Richard tells Larry they have enough 'good stuff in the bank' (I'm mangling the quote, btw) to let this one slide. I use that in my own life and you'll know when it's overdrawn!

Gahr · 01/02/2026 16:57

FeralWoman · 01/02/2026 14:20

Why didn’t you offer to go over and take the 6yo out to a park for her? One less child for her to deal with for an hour or so. Offered to play with the baby and 6yo while she dealt with the middle child?

You could have offered to bring over coffee, milkshakes/juices and cakes/sandwiches to the hotel and visited her and the children.

Take the initiative next time. Children can be hard work and she’s likely not getting enough sleep.

Why on earth should OP do all that? That said, this is why I dont really have any close friends who have children. This sort of thing is going to happen all the time.

Whaleandsnail6 · 01/02/2026 16:56

ProfessorBinturong · 01/02/2026 16:47

I don't have children. I don't like children of that age. I have as little to do with them as possible.

I would still have been able to work out that she was (for whatever reason) going through a week of utter hell, and would have offered to either take some/all of the children out for an hour or sit with some/all of them in the hotel room while she got out for a bit to get her head together. At the end of which, she may well have had the mental space for a short catch up.

If their own mother couldn't handle leaving the hotel with them, what makes you think a practical stranger to the children would be able to take them out? I doubt a 6 year old, 3 year old and 6 month old would want to go out with someone they don't know.

The friend had a reasonable, workable solution of op helping her take them out for a change of scenery, she just didn't want to take that

Whaleandsnail6 · 01/02/2026 16:51

I actually don't think you are being unreasonable after your updates.

I'm amazed she didn't bother to take her kids out of the hotel room...no wonder they were struggling!

Your idea of a trip to the park was a good one, you could have met at the hotel and helped them get the the park, where the kids run off some steam and you would have been there as an extra hand. Can't believe some posters think you should have taken her child out for her!

I'd send a message saying its a shame you didn't catch up but not to worry, you'll happily meet up next time you are in the same area and leave it at that. I'd also let the gifts fizzle out as it does sound one sided and like you make all of the effort

Monty34 · 01/02/2026 16:51

I have to say I would have found it odd. Not to meet up. She could have invited you to meet her.
Her toddler being unable to settle for two days to the extent portrayed would have invited issues within the hotel too.
She would have to leave the room for meals.
All a bit off really.

Imdunfer · 01/02/2026 16:49

I have read all your posts now and the only "unreasonable" bit I can see is not realising that this relation, as far as your friend is concerned, is over.

I guess the most likely explanation is that she feels it's run its course, but I can't help wondering if there was something she doesn't want you to see. Bruises on her, or her children?

BernardButlersBra · 01/02/2026 16:48

pouletvous · 01/02/2026 16:41

The toddler was “unsettled “ due to being confined to a hotel room for days

This. I have twin toddlers, l would have got them out and about, the change of scene most likely would have helped

ProfessorBinturong · 01/02/2026 16:47

I don't have children. I don't like children of that age. I have as little to do with them as possible.

I would still have been able to work out that she was (for whatever reason) going through a week of utter hell, and would have offered to either take some/all of the children out for an hour or sit with some/all of them in the hotel room while she got out for a bit to get her head together. At the end of which, she may well have had the mental space for a short catch up.

BernardButlersBra · 01/02/2026 16:47

Furning · 01/02/2026 16:37

I have plenty of experience of young children.

‘you’ve said multiple times you weren’t interested in seeing the children only your friend’

I have not said this once. I have, however, said multiple times that I was looking forward to seeing the kids and that I suggested many child friendly activities.

Why do people make things up on this forum? Is it a comprehension issue or just the glee of excitement of posting something condescending?

@Furning On here it’s a mixture of comprehension fails and LOTS of projection / making up your own narrative. Your friend should have made more effort. I think your strategy of letting this friendship fizzle out is a good one. She just isn’t putting in the same level of effort, she can’t move 10 minutes down the road but you have to fly to her and celebrated their events all the time?! I used to have a friend who had children before me and very much thought I should run around after her and make the friendship work. Including madness like wanting me to get up at 5am to travel to her house to “fit in around nap time”. She was super keen to say how easy my life was and how hard her was 🙄. With a strong side of “you’ll understand when you have children”, l know have toddler twins and know she talked a lot of rubbish. I make proper effort with friendships and know it’s NOT all about me and my children. I’m amused by the posters who think you should have swooped into super nanny mode. It’s your weekend too, where are the children’s father (s) in all of this and what’s the point of her holing up in a hotel for a week with 3 small children?!