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Really disturbed by response to this horrible incident

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Xoxka · 31/01/2026 15:22

Recently I was at Kings Cross. On my way to meet a friend. When this middle aged guy saw me and said something along the lines of “oh my god how beautiful, her face”. The two younger guys who he was with had to physically restrain him ans he was trying to walk in my direction. And they honestly were struggling. They were maybe 10 metres away from me but I was genuinely afraid. I’m 27 and incredibly active but only 5 ft 3. I was surrounded by people but worried I was going to be groped. Plus I really don’t like drawing any attention whatsoever if I can help it. Naturally VERY shy.

Ive recounted this incident to three people (all women of varying ages) and they’ve all mentioned the part about me being called beautiful. Like it’s a compliment. Ie that should be the takeaway. The man was physically intimidating to me! I was genuinely scared I was going to be attacked.

I just find this response very very depressing. Would the women around you not express sympathy if you were to tell them of a similar encounter?

OP posts:
gratefulmezze · 31/01/2026 17:25

Tbh it sounds like he has special needs, lack of self awareness and the people with him must be obviously used to him acting inappropriately in public as they were ready to restrain him, which they might have to do regularly when taking him out and about.
im sure it was upsetting for you, but he does sound SEN

WaryCrow · 31/01/2026 17:25

YourBreezyBiscuit · 31/01/2026 17:09

I've seen severely mentally impaired adults out with two carers who restrained them when they became agitated before. They are people and deserve to go out and live a life of sorts as much as everyone else, you can't just lock them inside for their whole life and call it a done job because they inconvenience other people!

I’ve been one of those carers in the past. It’s horrible on all sides.This is the fundamental problem, that male apes ARE the natural predators of women and girls. Far too many of them now need special care and attention that we cannot afford and our prisons are full of them.

At least the birth rate is falling.

I was also yelled at by my father about how creepy men calling you gorgeous is a compliment. He was a misogynistic prick.

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:23

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:20

don’t be overdramatic, it’s just an emoji

One meant to convey confusion or lack of understanding.

FranticFrankie · 31/01/2026 17:23

Some of the replies here OP!!!!!
Sorry for this very unsettling and frightening experience. It's staggering that this comment might be seen as a compliment! Yes this man may have difficulties but that's no reason to minimise the OP's experience
Honestly
I think women are afraid of men with good reason.

Would you be able to describe this man so that you could report it to the police? He could be known? Or might actually hurt someone next time

silverwrath · 31/01/2026 17:22

x2boys · 31/01/2026 17:19

Are all those men being escorted by two individuals, who immediately restrain them when they mske inappropriate comments ?
Thats what's sticks out for me .

'escorted'??

She said 'with'

But please continue to write your own narrative.

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:22

x2boys · 31/01/2026 17:19

Are all those men being escorted by two individuals, who immediately restrain them when they mske inappropriate comments ?
Thats what's sticks out for me .

Sadly not otherwise I guess they wouldn’t have raped the poor women and girls they raped.

Perhaps he needed strait jacket and castration.

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:22

silverwrath · 31/01/2026 17:20

'Seriously! I’m sorry but now you’re being absolutely ridiculous!'

'I think you’re overdramatising the whole situation'

You weren't there. She was.

But I'm sure she feels blessed that you shared. Your wisdom is a gift.

🙄

Oh do share your words of wisdom then 🙄, you know we’re not all going come to the same conclusions aren’t you? This is the whole point of these discussions on MN. You know how it works right ?

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:20

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:18

I know you did. But the shrug emoji and how you worded it wasn’t nice ..as the poster whose daughter it happened to has already pointed out.

don’t be overdramatic, it’s just an emoji

silverwrath · 31/01/2026 17:20

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 15:47

Seriously! I’m sorry but now you’re being absolutely ridiculous! The guy sounds like he’s clearly mentally ill/disabled. I think you’re overdramatising the whole situation. Most people would have just walked on realising that he is unwell. This isn’t just in London as well for your information, I live in a large town outside the M25 and I’m regularly see mentally ill/disabled out with their carers. Unfortunately, they don’t behave what could be considered normally because they don’t know they aren’t.

Edited

'Seriously! I’m sorry but now you’re being absolutely ridiculous!'

'I think you’re overdramatising the whole situation'

You weren't there. She was.

But I'm sure she feels blessed that you shared. Your wisdom is a gift.

🙄

x2boys · 31/01/2026 17:19

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:15

Have all of these men got Mental Health problems (eta: taken from another thread on MN atm)..

https://thecritic.co.uk/germany-is-acknowledging-the-unspeakable/

‘The Germany-wide statistics on sexual violence were also sobering. An internal study by the German federal law enforcement agency, leaked to a Zurich newspaper, revealed that asylum-seekers have committed some 7,000 sexual assaults (ranging from groping to gang-rape ) between 2015 and 2023. Although they make up only 2.5 per cent of the population, asylum-seekers made up 13.1 per cent of all sexual-assault suspects in 2021.

In 2023, there were 761 gang-rapes registered in Germany — almost two per day; 47.5 per cent of the suspects were foreigners. The frequency of such crimes — which were rare in Germany as late as the 1990s — has hovered between 600 and 800 per year for the past 7 years. The statistics go on for page after mind-numbing (or mind-boggling) page. Berlin’s police chief delivered the upshot: “Bluntly stated, our numbers show that violence in Berlin is young, male, and has a non-German background.” What is straining German law enforcement (and society) is the sheer number of young male asylum-seekers. Germany famously relaxed its border controls in 2015-2016, permitting an influx of some 1.3 million people from countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey.

Then as now, about 70 per cent of asylum-seekers were male and most are under 35 years old.Current numbers are off this peak but still high: in 2023, 351,000 asylum-seekers entered Germany, more than the population of Germany’s former capital Bonn. Most of these men have no German skills, little education (a 2016 study revealed only 34 per cent could read the Latin alphabet), no experience with alcohol, and no experience interacting with women not related to them.’

This Germany obviously but the UK isn’t much different.

Edited

Are all those men being escorted by two individuals, who immediately restrain them when they mske inappropriate comments ?
Thats what's sticks out for me .

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:18

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:16

I left the comment about AirDrop and it wasn’t a sarky comment, I think it was a reasonable comment about keeping it switched off for privacy and safety which I obviously wrongly assumed most do 🤷🏻‍♀️

I know you did. But the shrug emoji and how you worded it wasn’t nice ..as the poster whose daughter it happened to has already pointed out.

KilkennyCats · 31/01/2026 17:18

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 15:43

I hate to say it but he was most likely from a country where men and women probably do not mix freely.

I got the impression the two guys were family members.

i really didn’t want to share that detail as I am definitely not trying to cause division

Edited

How on earth would you know these guys were family, and not carers??!

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:16

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:12

Roll your eyes all you want. That poster shared a horrible incident that happened to her daughter and all someone can say is a sarcastic comment about leaving Air Drop on.

I left the comment about AirDrop and it wasn’t a sarky comment, I think it was a reasonable comment about keeping it switched off for privacy and safety which I obviously wrongly assumed most do 🤷🏻‍♀️

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:15

Have all of these men got Mental Health problems (eta: taken from another thread on MN atm)..

https://thecritic.co.uk/germany-is-acknowledging-the-unspeakable/

‘The Germany-wide statistics on sexual violence were also sobering. An internal study by the German federal law enforcement agency, leaked to a Zurich newspaper, revealed that asylum-seekers have committed some 7,000 sexual assaults (ranging from groping to gang-rape ) between 2015 and 2023. Although they make up only 2.5 per cent of the population, asylum-seekers made up 13.1 per cent of all sexual-assault suspects in 2021.

In 2023, there were 761 gang-rapes registered in Germany — almost two per day; 47.5 per cent of the suspects were foreigners. The frequency of such crimes — which were rare in Germany as late as the 1990s — has hovered between 600 and 800 per year for the past 7 years. The statistics go on for page after mind-numbing (or mind-boggling) page. Berlin’s police chief delivered the upshot: “Bluntly stated, our numbers show that violence in Berlin is young, male, and has a non-German background.” What is straining German law enforcement (and society) is the sheer number of young male asylum-seekers. Germany famously relaxed its border controls in 2015-2016, permitting an influx of some 1.3 million people from countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey.

Then as now, about 70 per cent of asylum-seekers were male and most are under 35 years old.Current numbers are off this peak but still high: in 2023, 351,000 asylum-seekers entered Germany, more than the population of Germany’s former capital Bonn. Most of these men have no German skills, little education (a 2016 study revealed only 34 per cent could read the Latin alphabet), no experience with alcohol, and no experience interacting with women not related to them.’

This Germany obviously but the UK isn’t much different.

bizteca · 31/01/2026 17:15

AmberSpy · 31/01/2026 16:52

Men throw acid on women in public spaces. Men grope women in public spaces. A man pushed a woman into the path of a bus in a public space (Putney Bridge attack). A man coughed and spat on a female railway worker in a public space (her name was Belly Mujinga, she later died of COVID). Men trap and sexually assault women in public toilets (look up Daniel Odubanjo).

Many of these vile men will have started with more "low key" events (I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone that Wayne Couzens was a flasher before he became a rapist and murderer).

OP is not being unreasonable to have found this scary and distressing, just because it was in a public place.

Don t get into alarm mode all the time, because then you don’t learn to recognise real danger and you live in constant anxiety and paranoia.

Plenty of men are dangerous, but being afraid of all men or letting oneself be overwhelmed by fear when something like this happens (unnerving definitely but actually there was no direct risk) is not the best solution.

Being scared makes you a lot more vulnerable, because your brain stops working. And more often than not, when afraid, women freeze rather than flight or fight.

Predators look for weakness, ppl who will be afraid of them, that’s how they choose you and not someone else. Being easily afraid doesn’t make you safe. The opposite.

Talking from experience.

Walkinthepark2026 · 31/01/2026 17:14

I’m sorry but my first thought was learning disability too. The way he acted and the fact you mentioned he was with 2 younger males makes me think he might have been a mental health offender (maybe sex offender, from his behaviour?) who was out on escorted community leave. That encounter would shake me up too, and I would not take it as a compliment, it just objectifies and would make me feel yuk. I’m really sorry you had to go through that.

Wordsmithery · 31/01/2026 17:14

If course it's not a compliment and I'd be furious if that's what my so called friends said in response to a description of a horrible moment when you felt really scared.
I honestly think the man must have lacked capacity in some way to have behaved in such a bizarre way.
You probably should have reported it but in the moment you wisely simply decided to make yourself safe.

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:12

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 16:47

You can be victimised in a split second. What if the man grabbed at me? Even if he’s pulled off within .5 seconds that’s still traumatising.

Omg I can’t believe this thread.

So many people questioning why I felt intimidated in a public setting. I have to walk away from this thread.

Im so disturbed.

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

Im not saying he did or didn’t. But for so many to make that assumption this was entirely down to mh is just bizarre.

Edited

That must’ve been horrible OP. Some of these men are out of control, and very very scary. x

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:12

YourBreezyBiscuit · 31/01/2026 17:09

🙄

Roll your eyes all you want. That poster shared a horrible incident that happened to her daughter and all someone can say is a sarcastic comment about leaving Air Drop on.

x2boys · 31/01/2026 17:11

FKAT · 31/01/2026 17:03

If a man needs two carers to restrain him when he's out in public so he doesn't attack women, he shouldn't be out in public. I don't care what the reasons are. Women are not support humans and background cast for problematic men.

I personally don't buy that this was the case by the way. I live next to a community of adults with learning difficulties and trust me, none of them have 2 on 1 carers.

Unless your privy to all the risk assessments of the people thst live there you can't possibly know, that.

YourBreezyBiscuit · 31/01/2026 17:09

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:09

I could go on and on but I think my first comment nailed it.

🙄

YourBreezyBiscuit · 31/01/2026 17:09

FKAT · 31/01/2026 17:03

If a man needs two carers to restrain him when he's out in public so he doesn't attack women, he shouldn't be out in public. I don't care what the reasons are. Women are not support humans and background cast for problematic men.

I personally don't buy that this was the case by the way. I live next to a community of adults with learning difficulties and trust me, none of them have 2 on 1 carers.

I've seen severely mentally impaired adults out with two carers who restrained them when they became agitated before. They are people and deserve to go out and live a life of sorts as much as everyone else, you can't just lock them inside for their whole life and call it a done job because they inconvenience other people!

Sidebeforeself · 31/01/2026 17:09

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:07

Don’t be ridiculous, of course I’m not! Have you got nothing better to add?

I could go on and on but I think my first comment nailed it.

JuvenileBigfoot · 31/01/2026 17:09

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 16:47

You can be victimised in a split second. What if the man grabbed at me? Even if he’s pulled off within .5 seconds that’s still traumatising.

Omg I can’t believe this thread.

So many people questioning why I felt intimidated in a public setting. I have to walk away from this thread.

Im so disturbed.

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

Im not saying he did or didn’t. But for so many to make that assumption this was entirely down to mh is just bizarre.

Edited

To be clear, it's not HIS behaviour that is saying to me he is disabled, it's the behaviour of the men with him.

CopeNorth · 31/01/2026 17:08

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 15:30

The fact something positive was said about my appearance is extremely beside the point in my opinion. The physical threatening should be the only thing commented on

I agree. It’s not a compliment to enforce your presence on a stranger and make them feel uncomfortable.

Cat-calling and hassling lone women isn’t about complimenting them. He was being held back by two other men - he knew he wasn’t trying to be nice. I think these men are aware it’s about being intimidating - there’s no way he was oblivious to how he was making someone feel

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