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Really disturbed by response to this horrible incident

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Xoxka · 31/01/2026 15:22

Recently I was at Kings Cross. On my way to meet a friend. When this middle aged guy saw me and said something along the lines of “oh my god how beautiful, her face”. The two younger guys who he was with had to physically restrain him ans he was trying to walk in my direction. And they honestly were struggling. They were maybe 10 metres away from me but I was genuinely afraid. I’m 27 and incredibly active but only 5 ft 3. I was surrounded by people but worried I was going to be groped. Plus I really don’t like drawing any attention whatsoever if I can help it. Naturally VERY shy.

Ive recounted this incident to three people (all women of varying ages) and they’ve all mentioned the part about me being called beautiful. Like it’s a compliment. Ie that should be the takeaway. The man was physically intimidating to me! I was genuinely scared I was going to be attacked.

I just find this response very very depressing. Would the women around you not express sympathy if you were to tell them of a similar encounter?

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x2boys · 31/01/2026 17:52

VivienneDelacroix · 31/01/2026 17:46

The women (I presume) on this thread falling over themselves to excuse this behaviour is depressing.
The internalised misogyny amongst women needs so much work.

Nobody is excusing the behaviour posters are offering possibilities of the reasons behind the behsviour ,that is very different to excusing the behaviour.

Oneforallandallforone · 31/01/2026 17:52

Mariocatgran · 31/01/2026 15:28

@Xoxka hi being pn your own I would be scared aswell but it is a compliment but obviously he should have kept it himself

Whle I'm sure the OP is attractive etc, she didn't see it as a compliment and it probably wasn't a compliment either from a clearly unhinged man. The man is dangerous.

butterpuffed · 31/01/2026 17:52

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 16:47

You can be victimised in a split second. What if the man grabbed at me? Even if he’s pulled off within .5 seconds that’s still traumatising.

Omg I can’t believe this thread.

So many people questioning why I felt intimidated in a public setting. I have to walk away from this thread.

Im so disturbed.

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

Im not saying he did or didn’t. But for so many to make that assumption this was entirely down to mh is just bizarre.

Edited

PPs are assuming that it's a MH problem because it definitely wasn't a normal thing to do .

The reason you're posting in here about it is because you don't think it's normal behaviour either .

You're away from there now, try not to worry any more about it .

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:51

tinytinyviolin · 31/01/2026 17:45

I get that, I was just explaining how it comes across to others. My friend uses a couple of emojis in a way that unintentionally makes her seem like she’s being a dick.

It wasn’t intentionally to be a dick, being ND, I can often come across that way unfortunately.

VivienneDelacroix · 31/01/2026 17:46

The women (I presume) on this thread falling over themselves to excuse this behaviour is depressing.
The internalised misogyny amongst women needs so much work.

tinytinyviolin · 31/01/2026 17:45

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:39

it was meant more of a shrug as in “I don’t know?” “maybe?” “perhaps ?” kind of context

I get that, I was just explaining how it comes across to others. My friend uses a couple of emojis in a way that unintentionally makes her seem like she’s being a dick.

Translatethedog · 31/01/2026 17:44

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 16:47

You can be victimised in a split second. What if the man grabbed at me? Even if he’s pulled off within .5 seconds that’s still traumatising.

Omg I can’t believe this thread.

So many people questioning why I felt intimidated in a public setting. I have to walk away from this thread.

Im so disturbed.

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

Im not saying he did or didn’t. But for so many to make that assumption this was entirely down to mh is just bizarre.

Edited

I also can’t believe the comments.

Great victim blaming mumsnet. Ops only crime is being a woman.

The excuses are bollocks.

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:43

I actually can’t believe some people on here are still wanging on about a ‘compliment’. Jesus Christ I thought we’d moved on from the 90’s. How depressing

IPM · 31/01/2026 17:42

Xoxka · 31/01/2026 16:47

You can be victimised in a split second. What if the man grabbed at me? Even if he’s pulled off within .5 seconds that’s still traumatising.

Omg I can’t believe this thread.

So many people questioning why I felt intimidated in a public setting. I have to walk away from this thread.

Im so disturbed.

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

Im not saying he did or didn’t. But for so many to make that assumption this was entirely down to mh is just bizarre.

Edited

it feels really gaslight-y to assume bad behaviour= mh issues.

From what I've read, no-one has really made that definite assumption - they've just offered that as a possible reason.

So they're not saying he did or he didn't.

"Im not saying he did or didn’t."

Why is this ok for you but not for the previous posters?

VivienneDelacroix · 31/01/2026 17:41

Mariocatgran · 31/01/2026 15:28

@Xoxka hi being pn your own I would be scared aswell but it is a compliment but obviously he should have kept it himself

Good grief. It's really not. Cat calling never is. It's unwanted male comment on a woman's appearance which makes women feel uncomfortable and intimidated and they fucking know it.

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:40

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Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:39

tinytinyviolin · 31/01/2026 17:32

I hate the shrug emoji and often think it comes across as really dismissive and passive aggressive. It might not be meant like that.

it was meant more of a shrug as in “I don’t know?” “maybe?” “perhaps ?” kind of context

silverwrath · 31/01/2026 17:37

Applesonthelawn · 31/01/2026 17:29

There were two men poised and primed to restrain him at any moment. It wasn't his first rodeo.

Normal men without learning difficulties don't lunge at women they find "beautiful" - they are in awe of them, shy around them, etc, and would approach with extreme caution, trying to impress.

Creepy men without learning difficulties lunge at people they think they can get away at lunging towards - ones that they consider vulnerable, because they are alone or just unlikely to put up a fight for some reason. They make disgusting and intimidating comments.

So to me, this sounds like learning difficulties or something similar.

'There were two men poised and primed to restrain him at any moment. It wasn't his first rodeo.'

Jesus wept. This thread has morphed into Jackanory.

I hope the OP gets off MN asap. Because I doubt any of this is remotely helpful.

DandyDenimScroller · 31/01/2026 17:37

billandtedsexcellentadventure · 31/01/2026 15:34

Was it someone with a learning disability? Were they his carers?

This was my thought too.

BlueJuniper94 · 31/01/2026 17:32

Is this just bots posting at bots with the odd actual person?

EverytimeItry · 31/01/2026 17:32

billandtedsexcellentadventure · 31/01/2026 15:34

Was it someone with a learning disability? Were they his carers?

This is what I thought. He wasn’t actually offensive and they reacted instantly to prevent anything inappropriate?

tinytinyviolin · 31/01/2026 17:32

Cappie73 · 31/01/2026 17:20

don’t be overdramatic, it’s just an emoji

I hate the shrug emoji and often think it comes across as really dismissive and passive aggressive. It might not be meant like that.

silverwrath · 31/01/2026 17:31

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WaryCrow · 31/01/2026 17:31

Women are always socialised to be ‘nice’, be ‘kind’ and self sacrificial too. To make excuses and endless excuses for men.

Why is it that male prisons are full?

The go to question is always what would men do. What would men do if they were being treated like this by an identifiable group?

They would recognise that they were at war with that group.

Applesonthelawn · 31/01/2026 17:29

There were two men poised and primed to restrain him at any moment. It wasn't his first rodeo.

Normal men without learning difficulties don't lunge at women they find "beautiful" - they are in awe of them, shy around them, etc, and would approach with extreme caution, trying to impress.

Creepy men without learning difficulties lunge at people they think they can get away at lunging towards - ones that they consider vulnerable, because they are alone or just unlikely to put up a fight for some reason. They make disgusting and intimidating comments.

So to me, this sounds like learning difficulties or something similar.

peacefulpeach · 31/01/2026 17:29

YourBreezyBiscuit · 31/01/2026 17:09

I've seen severely mentally impaired adults out with two carers who restrained them when they became agitated before. They are people and deserve to go out and live a life of sorts as much as everyone else, you can't just lock them inside for their whole life and call it a done job because they inconvenience other people!

An ‘inconvenience’?

I think you mean a sexual threat.

And yes they should stay indoors. Why should women and girls have to deal with out of control men?

Nelliemott · 31/01/2026 17:28

Reminds me of an incident at London Bridge 30 years ago. It was very busy and I had my daughter's(aged 6 and 4) by the hands one on each side. My husband had a rolly case and his briefcase, the rigid sort.
An old man grabbed my 6 year old's other hand saying how beautiful she was (still is). I kept hold and we were all yelling for him to let go as he dragged us all three through the crowds. My husband ran back and joined in, eventually he brought his suitcase down on the man's arm.
Before he let go. A young woman was apologising, saying he was harmless, but we were scared stiff and swept away by the crowds before we could engage. He could have broken the man's arm, and I still feel guilty, I realise now that the man was probably not well. But it was terrifying at the time.

Queenoftartts · 31/01/2026 17:27

billandtedsexcellentadventure · 31/01/2026 15:34

Was it someone with a learning disability? Were they his carers?

That’s just what I was thinking. Some do need to have 2 carer for their own safety and the safety of the general public.

shuggles · 31/01/2026 17:26

@Xoxka but only 5 ft 3

Not sure what the relevance is.

ProfessorSlocombe · 31/01/2026 17:25

If (as the post suggests) this mans behaviour made the OP fear for their safety then an assault - a criminal offence - has possibly been committed.

Assault is a common law offence in England and Wales that occurs when a person intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful personal violence.

Whether the (British Transport) police are interested is another matter.

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