Do you still have an old fashioned RTS electricity meter

I don't think it's really been mentioned in this thread but one of the reasons people don't seem to want to swap RTS meters to smart meters is that they don't want someone to control their electric supply. An RTS meter was the very first smart meter putting the electric companies in charge, the modern smart meters are only really a development of this technology.

In my experience, electricians know very little about meters. They don’t need to, since they’re not allowed to touch them.

What sort of tariff is that? Are you sure you’re not on Economy 7 or similar, and the time clock has drifted to the wrong time? Night time is off-peak, so it’s never more expensive than during the day (except Octopus Agile, a smart meter tariff).

I'm just repeating my experience which was told to me by an electtrician.

I’ve worked for an energy supplier and the old ones, particularly on prepayment, are far worse for these sorts of issues than smart meters.

We swapped ours but only because EDF offered us a few hundred pounds to change!

I've actually heard of more people having issues like these with smart meters than old style ones. One person had no electricity because his smart meter went wrong and couldn't get any help online to sort it out until the Monday.

I have an old meter. The bloke came round and looked at it over the summer and said he'd contact us about a replacement. Not heard a peep since.

I don't really want a smart meter as I suspect electricity when you actually want it (4-7pm ) will become exorbitant. Im on a tariff that is not cheap rate overnight (but IS cheaper during the day) and very happy with it so its irrelevant whether the night/day rate is switching at the right time.

If we ever sort ourselves out with solar we'll change it then.

Your RTS meter is still working fine because the signal is still on. I would have thought that is obvious…. But once it switches off it won’t be switching your meter into day/night rates.

RTS replacement is not the same as a regular smart installation in terms of “my meter still works” type arguments, it’s the signal that’s the issue.

just please don’t complain to your supplier when they thing the have warned you about and given you a solution to happens.

ours is not that old but still dumb. They stopped hassling us a little while ago. More than happy to send my own readings

Wouldn't you just have a new meter that operates in "dumb" mode? So you'd have to submit meter readings and wouldn't be able to get variable time of use tariffs etc.

I don't think mine is an RTS one we send readings each month
It's a white box bit different from pictures I've seen of old black RTS boxes

Did you or the previous occupants, ‘need’ your current meters? Probably not, they simply replaced the previous ones when their certification expired. Now the current ones are due for replacement.

@ValidPistachio the meter is displaying 0.00. we have electricity, but no-one knows how much we've used/are using and presumably when they sort it out we'll have to reach agreement based on last year's usage or something. It's been a shambles. They've changed the actual meter three times. Never a problem in 15 years before they switched off the RTS signal.

I still have old electricity and gas meters. They work fine. I could probably wallpaper the entire house with the number of letters I've had about smart meters, but they all go straight in the bin. I neither want nor need a smart meter.

We’re the same. Somehow our meter cupboard acts as a faraday cage and will not send or receive any signal.

We have had smart meters since 1998 in 3 different areas and they have been fine. You don't get off peak rates if you don't have one, so you are always on a standard tariff no matter what time of day you are using gas/electricity. We keep our display upstairs so we don't keep an eye on it minute by minute, more like day to day.

Surely it’s still displaying the actual reading, in kWh?

You’ll change your tune if your heating and hot water stops working properly.

Yes, we do and I’m not changing it

I've not got an old RTS...... But we also can't have a digital meter because we're in a signal black spot..... What happens then??

It only takes about 90 minutes to have a meter installed. No big deal. I wanted a SMETS 2 meter so that I could have an EV tariff with Octopus.

I really don’t see the issue in having smart meters. Had one for years now with no issues and far more accurate readings. Also daily information that tells me usage etc

And our storage heaters won't work, as they have no idea what time it is. 😂

They (EdF) insisted on replacing our meter last June, and we've not had a bill since. The so called smart meter shows 0.00. The technology was not ready in some areas. They have no idea how much we are using ... I've just opened a case with the ombudsman. My advice is resistance for now.