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AIBU to want my wife to do more of the child-related tasks as she wants a large family?

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dadtosomekids · 31/01/2026 13:19

I know this is mostly a women’s space, but that’s kind of why I’m here: I’d really like some female perspectives. For context I’m a man, married to a woman I love. She’s genuinely a great mum and a wonderful person that I’m proud of being married to. We’ve got 2 kids, one is 4 and the other is 1.

From the very start she was clear she wanted a big family, 3-4 kids. I’ve always been more of a one-kid person. If I’m being totally honest, 2 already feels like a lot to me. Parenting is hard, and I don’t find it fulfilling in the way she does, I mostly find it exhausting, although I love my children.

That said, I love her and I wanted / want to be with her. I knew that lots of kids were basically part of the deal, so I went along with it. I don’t regret my children, I love spending time with them (but struggle when it’s full days or long stretches of solo parenting) but I also can’t pretend this was ever my dream.

I’m usually out of the house from around 8am until about 6pm for work, 5 days per week. I very rarely get time that feels properly “off”, especially at weekends because we tend to spend the weekends as a family.

My wife is a SAHM, which was always what she wanted. Her day-to-day expenses (things like clothes, coffees, dentist, general spending) are covered by her or family money or inheritance, so money isn’t really a stressor for her in the long term. The house is paid for 50/50 by us. Everything else (bills, children’s clothes, nursery, meals out as a family, holidays) are covered by me.

The thing we keep clashing over is expectations around childcare. She wants everything to be very 50/50: nights, weekends, early mornings, all of it. She also still wants a third child, possibly a fourth, whereas I really don’t. And this is where I get stuck. From her side, it’s “this is my purpose in life, I want a big family”. I get that, and I respect it. But from my side, this already feels like more than I can comfortably handle. It feels like I’m being asked to sign up for something I never really wanted, and then expected to put in exactly the same level of energy and enthusiasm as someone who does. I guess, bluntly, my thinking is this: if having 3-4 kids is something she wants far more than I do, is it unreasonable to think she should be doing more of the work that comes with that choice? Because at the moment it feels like “I want more kids, let’s do this together, but you still have to carry half, or more, of the load”.

I love my wife, I love my kids, and I want to stay with her. I’m not trying to opt out of being a parent. Im
happy to occasionally wake up with the baby or to help get everyone ready in the morning for the day. I just don’t want to pretend that this is equally my dream when it isn’t. I can’t wake up every other morning at 6am because our toddler does, or spend large chunks of the day firefighting tantrums and overtired behaviour.

So am I being unfair here? Would it be unreasonable to say that if you want another 1-2 children be prepared for your load to go up disproportionately to mine?

Would really appreciate honest thoughts

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AbstractPoison · 31/01/2026 19:25

Doesn't sound like you were ever truly compatible if you had never agreed on how many kids you wanted.

MissCooCooMcgoo · 31/01/2026 19:23

You need to have no more children. You do not want them. Your wife can then make her own decisions on what that means for her.

You 50/50 made them. You 50/50 parent them.

TheIceBear · 31/01/2026 19:17

ColinOfficeTrolley · 31/01/2026 18:35

But he NEVER wanted 3 or 4 kids by his own admission. He KNEW he didn't but because he wanted the woman, he lied and said he did, just so he could 'have' her.

He's said it himself in black and white if you read the OP. He tricked her into being with him at the end of the day.

My point still stands. People are entitled at any point to say they don’t want more children . 2 is plenty. If she wants more let her leave

poetryandwine · 31/01/2026 19:01

FallingSlower · 31/01/2026 18:19

Then there’s nothing ‘normal’ in his engagement with the children, if he’s their parent, lives with them, and his only ‘parenting’ involves cooking and going on holiday.

Where do you get this idea?

He is the one who gets up early with the DC, because his wife feels it is more important for her to sleep in.

When OP gets home and at weekends they are doing 50-50. He doesn’t want more children.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/01/2026 18:59

muggart · 31/01/2026 18:50

It sounds like this would be much harder on the OP since he is the one who finds childcare draining!

And also it’s not so easy to do - just dropping and picking up jobs short term

JohnnysMama · 31/01/2026 18:55

dadtosomekids · 31/01/2026 13:26

@RosieCottonDancingsorry perhaps I explained this quite terribly. It’s not that I would do 50/50 with Child 1 and Child 2, then nothing with Child 3 and Child 4, I would just do overall (let’s say, although it’s very theoretical and can’t be measured exactly) 30% of “work” of having children with all the 3-4 of the kids rather than more with the eldest and less with the youngest.
in practice, perhaps that looks like I don’t wake up in the night unless it’s an emergency / my wife really needs it but in an ordinary night my wife handles the night waking up. Or I have some weekends where I’m at the pub on Saturday afternoon, away from the chaos that 3-4 children bring.

What are you living for?

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 31/01/2026 18:54

DH and I had a similar dilemma. When we got married he wanted 4 children, I wanted three and we decided to play it by ear. He was by far the larger earner so once first DC arrived we agreed I'd be a SAHM. I did 90% of housework and childcare and he did bits and bobs at weekends.

About a year after having second DC I wanted to start trying for a third. At which point he told me he'd changed his mind - he wanted to stop at 2. He found the pressure of financially supporting 4 people too much. His earning capacity wouldn't stretch to supporting 5 people while still giving him the life style he wanted.

I acquiesced because I didn't have any logical reason for wanting another child whilst DH had a list of sensible reasons for not wanting one. Also I had been an unwanted child myself (as I was repeatedly told while I grew up )and I didn't want to do that to do that to another baby.

All that was nearly 30 years ago and we are still together but it changed our marriage and not for the better. I spent years mourning that 3rd child I didn't have. It destroyed our sex life - every time we had sex using protection during my fertile time I'd end up crying all the way through because I was heartbroken it wouldn't end in pregnancy . After years of this, sex fizzled out completely. I literally cannot remember the last time we had sex. We are cuddly and affectionate but that's as far as it goes.

We stayed married and I still love him and we are happy together now but if I'd known in advance that he was going to change his mind I wouldn't have married him.

edited for typos

independentfriend · 31/01/2026 18:52

Can you claim any time back from work - less commuting / working from home? Can you afford to work four days a week? There might be space for you to get some time off if you can make work fit better into 9-5 rather than 8-6.

Caring for children gets easier the more you do it / the better you know your kids. Kids also become more interesting as they hit 4- 5. It's not going to be all about nappies and potty training. (Yes, different challenges but ones that might suit you better).

I think couples +/- individual counselling is a good way to go.

I wonder if your wife is expecting pressure to find a job when the youngest reaches school age so wants to keep a younger child round for as long as possible? You could talk about being supportive of her finding a hobby / doing some sort of college/ uni course etc You can talk through finances - are you both happy with her being a SAHM while your kids are at primary school?

There's various advice about the optimal gap between pregnancies - a quick look suggests 2 - 5 years between pregnancies is optimal. So you may have time to see how you feel about having more kids once your existing children are older.

Adding more children needs to be a two 'yes' discussion.

You probably also want to talk about finances and how that affects the support you can offer each child. A third child may well mean needing bigger cars to fit three child seats in the back.

Minortour · 31/01/2026 18:50

Megifer · 31/01/2026 18:10

Not at all sneaky. Op is absolutely entitled to change his mind. It doesnt sound like he intended to string his dw along.

He didn't change his mind - he always felt like that. He went ahead and got married knowing he didn't want 3/4 and that his wife definitely did. She laid her cards on the table.

The time to be honest was before the wedding, but he wasn't.

muggart · 31/01/2026 18:50

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 31/01/2026 18:39

Suggest to your wife you have a trial.

You take a break from work and stay at home with the kids. She can work full time and help 50/50 with the two kids you already have when she comes home from work.

It’d be interesting to see how that works.

A case of women wanting equality on their own terms?

It sounds like this would be much harder on the OP since he is the one who finds childcare draining!

bishbashbush2 · 31/01/2026 18:48

TheWonderhorse · 31/01/2026 13:30

Oh no. This isn't bargaining like, "you wanted an expensive car, you can pay the maintenance bills" would be, your children are people. They get one Dad and that's you. You can't half-arse it.

So don't bring children into a home where they're not wanted. Don't tell your wife that "you wanted kids, you deal with them" either. Don't have them, be open with your wife and give her the opportunity to find someone who wants a future that aligns with her own ambitions.

100% agree with this. You have to be completely honest with your wife and tell her you don’t want any more children. She can then decide whether or not she values you and her current family more than the idea of a bigger family with someone else.

Minortour · 31/01/2026 18:45

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 31/01/2026 18:39

Suggest to your wife you have a trial.

You take a break from work and stay at home with the kids. She can work full time and help 50/50 with the two kids you already have when she comes home from work.

It’d be interesting to see how that works.

A case of women wanting equality on their own terms?

She can work full time and help 50/50 with the two kids you already have when she comes home from work.

You realise that's what the majority of women families do day in day out, right? Work full time and then come home and take care of their families?? To suggest it's somehow a burden is absurd. "Wah I'm sooooo tired, doing a Full-Time™️ job just like I almost certainly used to before I had children, I can't possibly do a single thing else, it's inhumane I tell you!"

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:45

Glitter0 · 31/01/2026 18:23

You sound like you’ve done things fairly so far and I do agree that if she so badly wants more children and she knows you don’t then she has to make the decision as to whether she is willing to do more of the nights and early mornings.
In regards to having your own time, 100% plan to have a few hours off and she can do the same each weekend. You don’t have to spend the entire weekend doing family things. Likewise, you could get a babysitter for a few hours each weekend and go out and enjoy some time together during the day.

Except she wants to be with the kids and micro-manages them if OP or her mum has them

ttcat37 · 31/01/2026 18:44

dadtosomekids · 31/01/2026 13:30

@PevenseygirlQQ I have always made it clear that I want 1 child, 2 is my absolute limit.
She always made it clear that she’d like 3-4, and jokes that she’ll get her way. She’s never talked about kids in a way that would suggest she’d ever stop at 2. It’s a “given” that she’d have more. I know she’d leave me if I refused to father more children.

Where is she going to go though? Do you really think she’s going to leave you and find someone else to marry just so she can have more children?
There is absolutely no way that you will be able to dictate to her how much you’re going to do with the kids if you have another. The simple fact is that you care about her and the children you have, and you won’t feel any different if it happens again. You would feel dreadful leaving everything to her.
You need to have a sit down chat with her, make your message clear- absolutely no more children. Then make sure you get the snip!!
edit to add- your job is your 8-5 or whatever it is, her job is SAHM. When you finish work you should be doing 50/50.

muggart · 31/01/2026 18:42

YANBU to stop at 2 kids. YABU to not expect to do 50/50 when you are at home.

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:42

tiredlazy · 31/01/2026 18:39

Or Mum can go to the pub .Or Dad have tea with his mates !

Thank you! Very sexist 😆

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 31/01/2026 18:39

Suggest to your wife you have a trial.

You take a break from work and stay at home with the kids. She can work full time and help 50/50 with the two kids you already have when she comes home from work.

It’d be interesting to see how that works.

A case of women wanting equality on their own terms?

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:39

SteelyEyed · 31/01/2026 16:43

It's entirely fair! And is how it actually works in the real world for 90% of houses where one half is a stay at home parent and the other half is working full-time, I will bet.

Yes being a stay at home parent is difficult but with one child in nursery and another one aged 1 – they have plenty of naps and you can pretty much lie on the living room rug and nap with them for an hour or two a day if you like, but the deal is, you do the nights & the early mornings and so on. If you're a zombie the next day nobody is going to fire you.

The partner who has to sit upright in an office all day should not be expected to do 50% of the nights and early mornings. They can't nap during the day or just push a pram around the park like a zombie (I've done this, haven't we all?). They have to be alert and perform and WORK in a way that doesn't get them fired.

This is simple common sense and how 90% of families work. Unfortunately we've got the 10% (no doubt divorced by now because of their very unreasonableness) laying in on the poor OP.

Plus, as another pp said, this is the wife’s vocation and passion. And despite the tiredness and broken nights / early mornings, she wants more babies.

If OP likes a bit of peace, imagine the years of noise and feeling overcrowded ahead: the taking kids to and from activities ( that hasn’t even started yet) while looking after 2/3 other children, and will the house and car be big enough? Increasing the size of your family is a serious decision with years of repercussions and work and responsibility. Fine if it’s agreed and your vocation, but not if it isn’t

tiredlazy · 31/01/2026 18:39

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:30

This is exactly what we did - it worked perfectly for us

Or Mum can go to the pub .Or Dad have tea with his mates !

Minortour · 31/01/2026 18:38

IngratesGrate · 31/01/2026 16:50

because one person is bringing in the money to keep the family going. Of course that person should be less tired. They could lose their job. Which is the only job the family has.

I spent years as a SAHM. I could do that tired. I could not do my job tired.

SAHM earn at least the cost of full- time childcare so to suggest they're not contributing financially is short-sighted. If the person 'bringing in the money' doesn't earn enough to pay for an overnight nanny and a servant then they should bloody well expect to pull their weight. The responsibility for the family you created doesn't stop at the office door.

And your ability to do your job well is really your own issue. What if you both worked? You'd have to share the nights - are you suggesting you'd be constantly at risk of being fired then?

If you don't want to be tired, don't have kids. It's part of looking after them.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 31/01/2026 18:35

TheIceBear · 31/01/2026 18:07

Sometimes people don’t realise they don’t want 3-4 kids until after they realise how much work it is. I mean 2 kids is hard work. Op is entitled to not want anymore kids. The wife can leave if she wants . If someone already has 2 kids with their partner and would leave them because they want more they must not love their partner all that much in my opinion, especially one like the op who sounds reasonable and supportive

Edited

But he NEVER wanted 3 or 4 kids by his own admission. He KNEW he didn't but because he wanted the woman, he lied and said he did, just so he could 'have' her.

He's said it himself in black and white if you read the OP. He tricked her into being with him at the end of the day.

Minortour · 31/01/2026 18:33

IngratesGrate · 31/01/2026 18:20

Jesus. Comparing being a mother to a paid employee shows just how profoundly you don’t understand the responsibilities of parenting.

The person you were responding to was bang on the money. Practical and reality based.

Why is looking after a child different when you're earning money for it? Are you suggesting you'd do a better job for someone else's child?

Cherrytree86 · 31/01/2026 18:33

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:30

This is exactly what we did - it worked perfectly for us

It’s what loads of couples of do I think! Ensures you can both maintain your own interest, friendships etc - which is so vital when you become a parent

Abracadabra12345 · 31/01/2026 18:30

Cherrytree86 · 31/01/2026 14:59

@CrazyGoatLady

sorry but you’re wrong. You totally can have breaks. One Saturday afternoon, OP can go to pub with his mates, while his wife looks after the kids. The next Saturday afternoon, his wife goes to afternoon tea or whatever with her friends, while OP watches the kids. So yes you can have a break, and Op isn’t unreasonable to want and need this.

This is exactly what we did - it worked perfectly for us

gardenflowergirl · 31/01/2026 18:27

Have you considered getting a vasectomy as you don't want more children?

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