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Would you blame the parent with multiple children NC?

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TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 08:52

Situation: Women with multiple children. Divorced from their Dad almost 20 years ago. Two of her children are NC, both of them at different times due to different reasons and nothing to do with each other as siblings are not close. One of these is her only daughter.

Both still remain close to their Dad. Her other are children still in contact but not particularly close to her and don’t go to visit often. Woman isn’t elderly but frail and in ill health, quite often in and out of hospital- has been going on for years.

In this situation would you think that she is to blame for multiple children being NC or would you think the children are being too harsh particularly given to her ill health?

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StrippeyFrog · 30/01/2026 13:35

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 08:52

Situation: Women with multiple children. Divorced from their Dad almost 20 years ago. Two of her children are NC, both of them at different times due to different reasons and nothing to do with each other as siblings are not close. One of these is her only daughter.

Both still remain close to their Dad. Her other are children still in contact but not particularly close to her and don’t go to visit often. Woman isn’t elderly but frail and in ill health, quite often in and out of hospital- has been going on for years.

In this situation would you think that she is to blame for multiple children being NC or would you think the children are being too harsh particularly given to her ill health?

I think it’s a massive decision to go NC with a parent and is generally not just done due to some parenting mistakes in childhood, but ongoing behaviours and denial of wrongdoings.

I’m LC and my siblings NC with my mother and she frequently lures people into caring/supporting her with her stories of ill health and family abandoning her. People quickly realise that she is not a nice or safe person and then she moves onto the next. I’d be cautious if I was you.

Santee · 30/01/2026 13:33

Netcurtainnelly · 30/01/2026 13:28

Whats it to do with you and why are you expecting people to judge another woman without even knowing her. Awful.

Maybe you should read her full thread to see she’s trying to be kind to this person.

Probably kinder than I would be! I’d stay well away from this situation.

Netcurtainnelly · 30/01/2026 13:28

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 08:52

Situation: Women with multiple children. Divorced from their Dad almost 20 years ago. Two of her children are NC, both of them at different times due to different reasons and nothing to do with each other as siblings are not close. One of these is her only daughter.

Both still remain close to their Dad. Her other are children still in contact but not particularly close to her and don’t go to visit often. Woman isn’t elderly but frail and in ill health, quite often in and out of hospital- has been going on for years.

In this situation would you think that she is to blame for multiple children being NC or would you think the children are being too harsh particularly given to her ill health?

Whats it to do with you and why are you expecting people to judge another woman without even knowing her. Awful.

Dillydollydingdong · 30/01/2026 13:24

We don't know enough about the situation. Why have the children gone NC?

mistymorninglight · 30/01/2026 13:23

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 13:02

I mean she blames her sons wife for everything to do with the downfall of that relationship. Like he’s been brainwashed. I believe they were quite close before he got married.

So he has been "brainwashed". What about the others- were they all brainwashed too?

Notice all the excuses and how nothing is her fault, its always someone else's.

Nn9011 · 30/01/2026 13:21

Do NOT get involved. She sounds like she was enmeshed with her son and couldn't cope when he got married. It's always the horrible wife's fault, she stole precious son away blah blah blah.
Keep your boundaries and protect yourself. NC children do it for a reason.

GCSEBiostruggles · 30/01/2026 13:20

OP I don't think anyone here can answer this one for you. You know what you are willing to give here; time, care, presents, presence etc etc. If it becomes too much you are an adult and can presumably say "enough" and stop?

She hasn't done anything to you and everything is fears and speculation on your behalf. If you have trouble saying no and are one of those people pleasing types who push themselves onto people "in need" that they barely know then expect huge amounts of adoration and public affection/kudos in return, maybe your family are thinking this might be a bad combination if this woman is not great with keeping up friendships.

Mistyglade · 30/01/2026 13:20

Yes of course. Who’s nc with their mother for no good reason? I’m saying that as someone who is nc with mine after years of one-more-chances. It’s like cutting a core pain out of my body. Her words still haunt me though. She used to tell people I was to blame for all her failed relationships and that she hated me. I was a child.

Newusername0 · 30/01/2026 13:17

Yes. Shes the common denominator.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 30/01/2026 13:15

' so he cannot do it himself.'

nowhere have you said he wants to do it himself...

Elsvieta · 30/01/2026 13:14

mindutopia · 30/01/2026 09:17

I mean, you’d think, but manipulative people are very good at spinning a sob story to explain why nothing is ever their fault.

I am NC with my mum and stepdad. Stepdad’s 2 children are NC with them as well. Between them, they have 3 adult children and 5 grandchildren they have no relationship with. So they literally have no family, that’s all of us.

Some people have been like, wtf?! I always knew something was up and I don’t believe a word they say about what’s happened. The story according to them is that we all 3 separately tried to blackmail them for money and cut them off when we couldn’t get it. The real story is stepdad is a paedo who continues to abuse children under my mum’s watch.

They have lots of friends though, and sometimes those friends contact me to tell me how horrible I am for what I did to them trying to take all their money. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But the friends they do have are 90% new ones who they seem to rotate in when older ones disappear. I suspect people do get a bit suspicious and question if the stories they tell are true and then maybe get fed up with their drama. But at least some people for a time must believe the narrative that they were just so unlucky and ended up with such awful children and none of this is their fault.

Continues to abuse children? Have you been to the police?

Freya1542 · 30/01/2026 13:07

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 13:02

I mean she blames her sons wife for everything to do with the downfall of that relationship. Like he’s been brainwashed. I believe they were quite close before he got married.

"she blames her sons wife for everything to do with the downfall of that relationship" A tale as old as time!!

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 13:02

mistymorninglight · 30/01/2026 13:00

She is particularly adamant she did nothing wrong to her son.

This is quite a bizarre distinction. She definitely didnt do anything to her son. So what about the others?- this implies she did do something to the others otherwise she wouldn't single her son out like this, she would have just said it applied to all of them.

You describe her as intense and needy, has zero friends. It's pretty obvious from all of this there are significant reasons why noone wants contact with her. If you start to help her (what does that even entail or mean if you live miles away?!) then I suspect you will soon find out why noone wants to spend time around her.

I mean she blames her sons wife for everything to do with the downfall of that relationship. Like he’s been brainwashed. I believe they were quite close before he got married.

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mistymorninglight · 30/01/2026 13:00

She is particularly adamant she did nothing wrong to her son.

This is quite a bizarre distinction. She definitely didnt do anything to her son. So what about the others?- this implies she did do something to the others otherwise she wouldn't single her son out like this, she would have just said it applied to all of them.

You describe her as intense and needy, has zero friends. It's pretty obvious from all of this there are significant reasons why noone wants contact with her. If you start to help her (what does that even entail or mean if you live miles away?!) then I suspect you will soon find out why noone wants to spend time around her.

Freya1542 · 30/01/2026 12:59

Do you see yourself as her rescuer @TheBushySquirrel?

Think of the dynamics and fall-out for your partner and his siblings should you, in your infinite wisdom, decide to "support" a woman who has zero support and little contact from her own children.

Are they all wrong because you feel sorry for her?

CraftyYankee · 30/01/2026 12:57

If you live far away what kind of help is she looking for? Do you have DC, a job?

thepariscrimefiles · 30/01/2026 12:43

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 12:05

But she’s asking me to be involved. My partner said it’s up to me.

He isn’t here to give the support.

What is she expecting you to do? Hand-on care?

I'd be very wary indeed. Your partner doesn't seem that keen to help his mum and keeps his distance. He will have his own reasons for this.

I don't think that your MIL should be asking you. It's obvious that her own behaviour has driven people away. She has obviously been telling you how sad she is that her children are no contact and she is baffled about the reason. I don't believe this for a minute. She'll know why but won't accept it.

I would bet good money that if you start helping her, you will end up at her beck and call and your relationship will deteriorate massively. If you then pull back, you will start complaining about you to other people.

redskydelight · 30/01/2026 12:42

centaury · 30/01/2026 12:33

Not necessarily, or at least not directly. Having the same parents isn't the only thing children might have in common. They might share temperaments, schools, social circles, and these days virtually all young people spend their formative years exposed to various destructive almost cultlike belief systems online. I spent a chunk of my 20s thinking my parents were abusive and that I needed to reduce contact. They weren't. I know some people my age who still think their parents were abusive and it's often possible to recognise if/when they're basing that on the same (online) headfiction I spent my teens absorbing.

But in your example, you spent your 20s thinking about reducing contact.
It sounds like you didn't, but even if you had, starting to reduce contact is a few steps away from going entirely NC. During which time, you would have come to the same realisation that you did, that your parents weren't actually abusive.

People who've actually gone NC, have slowly reduced contact over time, they've had multiple conversations with their parents, they've examined their own behaviour and they've often had therapy. This takes years. We're not talking about a short phase of teen/early 20s self absorption. Or if we are, the contact might well resume when maturity sets in.

It's been said a lot on this thread already, but NC is a last resort after all else has failed, not something that people do on a whim.

(caveats - yes mental illness, coercive partners etc etc may play a part in some cases)

LoveWine123 · 30/01/2026 12:41

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 11:53

I am trying to figure out how much support to offer the woman as the partner of one of the children who isn’t NC. I appreciate I don’t have the full story, and will never get it, but when I first met her I felt very sorry for her. Poorly with multiple children and no support, including two children who refuse to talk to her at all.

She can be quite intense and dependant but I have often put it down to her being lonely. Other than that she has always been lovely. Makes a lot of effort. She is devastated about the children who won’t speak to her. She is particularly adamant she did nothing wrong to her son.

We don’t live near her and DP isn’t very close to her as she divorced his Dad and moved hours away when he turned 17. It definitely isn’t a Father issue. There isn’t any hostility between the two of them.

I have met the no contact children and they too are lovely and down to earth, including the wife she insists is controlling. I’m not getting involved and would never say anything to any of DPs siblings as I like them and it’s none of my business. I do know that they went NC with her years apart, don’t live anywhere near each other so there was no “ganging up” or influencing as they aren’t particularly close. Big age gap too. However I feel I can independently be kind regardless of the situation.

I want to be able to give her support but my own Mum and friends have told me to be very wary of her as there is a reason that her children treat her the way that they do and they think I am walking into the lions den.

You seem like a very kind person and I have been in your situation before. Both of my parents were NC with their own parents. My mum due to horrific physical abuse by her father and my dad due to continued emotional abuse and lack of any parental care from his mother. It's more clear cut in my mum's case, but on my dad's side I sometimes found it difficult to stay NC with my grandparent. She was never anything but nice to me, but I know what my father went through (as I have seen and heard it myself) and I could never forget or unhear some of the things I witnessed as a child from my grandmother. This did not stop me from feeling sorry for her and wanting to help her in her final years of life. I did help but I was also very mindful that her situation was one of her own making. She never apologized and never admitted/accepted she was at fault, but she knew it. I could never minimize what my dad went through (and he never spoke to his mother again despite living next door to her), but I was able to offer some help and empathy to her as a human being who needed help despite the fact I felt she didn't deserve it. My point being it is possible to both understand the reasons of NC and also provide some support if that's how you feel. My father never judged me for it or prevented me from helping.

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 12:41

godmum56 · 30/01/2026 12:29

I think if you mean doing things like visits, taking her stuff in hospital and so on then if your partner is happy, I might give it a go. But are you SURE he's happy? "Its up to you" is, in my personal experience, an odd response. It sounds more like a refusal to discuss it than genuinely not minding either way. If by support she means intervening between her and her children to try to get them to make contact then no no a thousand times no.

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Yes stuff like this. I would definitely not intervene between the rest of her children. I try not to mention them to her or tell her if there’s a family event going on if she’s messaging me. I’ve accidentally made that mistake and she got very upset.

I think my DP doesn’t want me to feel put upon by her and he knows she can be full on. We live quite far away and he is literally not here for months at a time anyway so he cannot do it himself.

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ThatBlackCat · 30/01/2026 12:40

TheBushySquirrel · 30/01/2026 09:39

To give a little bit more context woman doesn’t really have any friends. She has a few people who check on her due to illness but no deep meaningful friendships, she is very lonely due to this.

She blames the wife of her son for him falling out with her citing her as controlling, and would say her daughter has been difficult for years and believes she cut her off due to her getting poorly. Woman desperately wants a relationship with her NC children and will send them messages, attempt to call them to reach out etc and receives nothing back.

If you asked the adult children they wouldn’t go into detail just say she didn’t respect boundaries, was manipulative, turned nasty when she didn’t get her own way and son would say she wasn’t nice to his wife. The other children would say they aren’t getting involved. So that’s is how much information anyone would get from this.

Both adult children are in marriages with children, Mother hasn’t met some of the children and is desperate to. She spends periods of time in the hospital and tries to reach out to her children and hears nothing back, although they know due to siblings telling them.

If you asked the adult children they wouldn’t go into detail just say she didn’t respect boundaries, was manipulative, turned nasty when she didn’t get her own way and son would say she wasn’t nice to his wife. The other children would say they aren’t getting involved. So that’s is how much information anyone would get from this.

So it sounds like they were justified then.

She blames the wife of her son for him falling out with her citing her as controlling, and would say her daughter has been difficult for years and believes she cut her off due to her getting poorly. Woman desperately wants a relationship with her NC children and will send them messages, attempt to call them to reach out etc and receives nothing back.

So she won't take responsibility. Shows no remorse yet keeps reaching out without apologising, and then wonders why she receives nothing back. If I were NC from my mother I wouldn't re-establish contact if my mother refused to acknowledge her part, express remorse and apologise. Those would be the bare minimum needed before I would accept contact. She can't expect contact if she won't sincerely apologise. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped and who won't help themselves by doing what they need to do. She sounds like a nasty piece of work and if I were you I'd have nothing at all to do with her.

Bigcat25 · 30/01/2026 12:36

It's hard to judge fairly without knowing the facts. One of my siblings was turned against my mom by a now ex partner who is probably a psychopath. They still have a relationship with my mom but the ex did do damage along with sibling who let their partner darken their view and reframe the past.

My mom showed me a poem that sibling wote in tribute to them before partner was on the scene and the contrast in siblings's opinion of mom was stark.

SixtySomething · 30/01/2026 12:36

watchingthishtread · 30/01/2026 10:24

One child, maybe, but two...?

Why not?
All sorts of things go on in the world.
Just one example, a relative might be spreading lies about the parent, unknown to the parent.
A parent could be falsely accused of a crime.

ThatBlackCat · 30/01/2026 12:34

Children don't go NC with their own parents for no reason. Believe them. Believe children. It's bad enough that children of abuse are not believed, and when adults, are not believed it is justified when they go NC. And not one, but two? Yeah, she knows exactly why, and her not taking any responsibility is a big red flag. It'd be different if she had some remorse. I'd be very wary around her and want to have as little to do with her as possible.

centaury · 30/01/2026 12:33

Not necessarily, or at least not directly. Having the same parents isn't the only thing children might have in common. They might share temperaments, schools, social circles, and these days virtually all young people spend their formative years exposed to various destructive almost cultlike belief systems online. I spent a chunk of my 20s thinking my parents were abusive and that I needed to reduce contact. They weren't. I know some people my age who still think their parents were abusive and it's often possible to recognise if/when they're basing that on the same (online) headfiction I spent my teens absorbing.