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To think a therapist with a personality disorder is concerning?

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TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 18:55

I won’t say how I know this therapist, but I will say I know them very well. I know this person has read Mumsnet in the past, so I do not want to out myself. This therapist charges a premium hourly rate, and specialises in working with vulnerable people (including children) which I think makes this even more concerning.

The therapist in question has a long history, going back to childhood, of severe mental illness. This includes multiple suicide attempts (some very recent) and several diagnosed mental illnesses, including a personality disorder. I won’t say which, again for fear of outing myself or this individual. They have also been investigated by social services and the police on numerous occasions, again spanning decades, due to the behaviour they have exhibited as a result of their poor mental health. In the past year, they were investigated by social services, who found that they are emotionally manipulative, abusive and dishonest. This report was then sent to the father’s of her children (she has multiple children with different fathers, I believe this is also part of her mental illness and self-destruction). As a result of this, one of the father’s took her to court and she lost custody of one of her children…she is allowed contact with them but the child has been put in the care of their father.

Throughout the years I have gently asked if they feel any of this impacts their role as a therapist. The person in question has said that they are very good at separating their personal and work life, and that they would never behave poorly towards a client. However, I fail to see how all of this cannot materially affect their work as it has such a profound impact on their daily life and those around them. I would be horrified if I was paying an exorbitant amount (or even seeing her for free) with all of this background knowledge.

I have researched it and it appears that therapists can operate unchecked, there does not appear to be any safeguards, effectively anyone can become a self-employed therapist. Yes it is up to clients to do their due diligence - for example I would request a DBS - but there is nobody overseeing therapists and therefore there would be no way for a client to have access to any of this information.

AIBU to think this is wrong and that anyone working with vulnerable people needs to be on some sort of register or have some sort of governing body?

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Theonlywayicanloveyou · 29/01/2026 21:32

sprigatito · 29/01/2026 19:12

Personality disorders are quite dodgy science in any case - they often serve as “dustbin diagnoses” and are gradually being replaced with less nebulous and more pertinent labels. If the therapist has well-managed and treated long-term MH conditions, that’s not uncommon at all in the therapeutic community and can actually be an asset. I think I would mind my own business.

Came to say this first part. They basically don’t exist - they are a ‘complicated life, can’t really explain it’ dumping ground when support is unavailable. Usually lead to the person being drugged into submission.

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 21:29

Diynovice81 · 29/01/2026 21:24

It's preferable that they are registered with a regulatory body like BACP or NCPS, but to be in private practice , you don't technically have to. But I think if I was looking for a therapist, I would definitely be wanting one that was registered with a regulatory body.

How do these organisations regulate their members though? I’m assuming they can’t access medical records, court records, social services records so how would they even monitor these people, other than DBS which likely isn’t sufficient anyway even if it’s done.

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TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 21:26

It isn’t true that only employers can request DBS. I’ve hired many nanny’s, cleaners, tutors etc over the years and all have been able to produce a DBS.

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BlowFryer · 29/01/2026 21:26

Unfortunately there are a lot of predatory odd people in all "respectable" professions and walks of life.

Mental health is just one of them.

Mental health - one guy I dated briefly is now an NHS consultant. Sent aggressive texts saying he'd been spying on me and I was clearly lying after I didn't agree to a date as was ill.

He also had very odd, grandiose, self centred conversational habits. I can't imagine him actually being helpful to talk to at all.

Former mental health nurse - lot of diagnosed issues and been sectioned multiple times.

Therapist ex-friend - absolutely vile person. Tbf she did get sacked from her job for her aggressive behaviour towards her colleagues.

Lots of people in the "caring" professions are completely vile.

The best people can do is have good intuition and boundaries and do due diligence and "keep yourself to yourself" if you're feeling vulnerable.

There is a dominant narrative that if you're struggling and vulnerable you should seek therapy or help or join groups ASAP.

I personally think for some people having a good "mental self-care" toolkit may be better than getting into the system.

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 21:26

Verytall · 29/01/2026 21:23

I would also be very careful of assuming that a father gaining residence of a child means that the mother is abusive. Both parents have equal right to be the resident parent, the child can't be in two places at once, if a non resident parent seeks care that is their right to do so and the child will end up with one of them usually (unless 50 50 but whilst it's the starting point it's not that's not that common in practice just due to the practicalities of those arrangements)

A judge isn’t going to make an order that a child is in the sole custody of one parent and only has minimal contact with the other if there aren’t serious issues. Judges usually push for equal custody or at least some sort of shared custody.

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Verytall · 29/01/2026 21:25

@TherapistKnot a self employed therapist won't have a DBS. They are checks done by an employer. The only person who has the right to see the DBS is the employer.

Diynovice81 · 29/01/2026 21:24

It's preferable that they are registered with a regulatory body like BACP or NCPS, but to be in private practice , you don't technically have to. But I think if I was looking for a therapist, I would definitely be wanting one that was registered with a regulatory body.

Verytall · 29/01/2026 21:23

I would also be very careful of assuming that a father gaining residence of a child means that the mother is abusive. Both parents have equal right to be the resident parent, the child can't be in two places at once, if a non resident parent seeks care that is their right to do so and the child will end up with one of them usually (unless 50 50 but whilst it's the starting point it's not that's not that common in practice just due to the practicalities of those arrangements)

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 21:23

StrawberryJamAndRaspberryPie · 29/01/2026 21:11

I highly doubt any therapist would be willing to give you a DBS check of themselves OP… You’d also be shocked by how many healthcare professionals do not have a clean record.

My old therapist was a former drug and alcohol addict. It informed her practice and her record was far from squeaky because of it.

If any person who was working with my child refused to show me a DBS, they wouldn’t be working with my child.

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Verytall · 29/01/2026 21:18

Personality disorders as a concept are known to be problematic, they're essentially a grouping of personality traits, usually shaped by childhood experience, that are felt to cause issues. They are not necessarily fixed/permanent and how they affect someone can change over time depending on their maturity and life circumstances. So I wouldn't consider it a barrier to being a therapist.

Any therapist employed by an organisation, such as NHS or CAMHS, would have to go through the required checks of their organisation. It is problematic that it isn't a protected title and anyone can set themselves up independently - however there are bodies that therapists can voluntarily register with, BACP being the main one for those involved in traditional mental health/counselling work, and it's imperative that anyone seeking a therapist does those checks. A client has no right to request a DBS though, and DBSs are checks requested by employers so if someone is fully self employed they have no route to have a DBS anyway!

StrawberryJamAndRaspberryPie · 29/01/2026 21:11

I highly doubt any therapist would be willing to give you a DBS check of themselves OP… You’d also be shocked by how many healthcare professionals do not have a clean record.

My old therapist was a former drug and alcohol addict. It informed her practice and her record was far from squeaky because of it.

PoppySaidYesIKnow · 29/01/2026 21:02

If she is registered with BACP you could make enquiries with them

FrayaMorstater · 29/01/2026 21:02

One of my friends is a therapist and she’s a bloody vile person. Known her years, and she’s done some awful things. Not illegal just not very moral

Tableforjoan · 29/01/2026 20:59

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:22

Would you honestly want someone giving therapy to your vulnerable child who had their own child removed?

I’m not saying I would but I’m just saying technically speaking much like criminals it depends on what they did.

Even people with criminal records can work in jobs you wouldn’t think because their crime wouldn’t affect or be able to happen to the service user.

A good example would be hackers being hired by governments because of their skills or burglars that have started their own security companies because they know the weak spots. I know a company that’s in IT that hired someone with a hacking conviction they hired him because of it.

In your example she lost or gave up custody of one of her children but has kept the rest. Whatever she did or didn’t do the law and her other children’s fathers didn’t feel or see fit to remove all the children.

Your personal connection to her whatever that is seems to be feeding the issue more I think.

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:59

tipsyraven · 29/01/2026 20:45

You can report them. This is the professional body that any half decent therapist should belong to.
www.bacp.co.uk/

What would reporting them achieve? Does this body have any powers of investigation?

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tipsyraven · 29/01/2026 20:45

You can report them. This is the professional body that any half decent therapist should belong to.
www.bacp.co.uk/

parkezvous · 29/01/2026 20:42

One of my friends sisters is a counsellor she has concerning MH problems, lives in a toxic household and has been under MH team and social services for years but still works for one of the ‘big’ MH charities as a counsellor. I do wonder how she manages it tbh

whereHeroesAremade · 29/01/2026 20:34

of course, only in England

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:22

Tableforjoan · 29/01/2026 20:14

If her children were removed for say neglect. That’s not an issue that can happen with her clients so technically not relevant.

Now if she was beating them and then was alone with children that would be an issue.

Would you honestly want someone giving therapy to your vulnerable child who had their own child removed?

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Absolutelychocolate · 29/01/2026 20:21

Some dentists have bad teeth, some cleaners have dirty homes, it doesn’t always follow that you have to be personally perfect in the role you work in.

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:16

JLou08 · 29/01/2026 20:13

Many people with mental health problems prefer support from people with lived experience. I know two mental health nurses who have had serious mental health problems. Several social workers who were in care as children and a few who were in abusive relationships as adults. Drugs and alcohol services are often staffed by people who have struggled with addiction.

In your examples though you notably use ‘had’ not ‘have’. I wouldn’t expect to go to a drug rehabilitation centre and be helped by an active user, or go to an AA meeting and it be lead by someone who is currently an alcoholic.

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Tableforjoan · 29/01/2026 20:14

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:10

I understand that those with mental health struggles may be well placed in some respects to help other people who are struggling, however, there has to be some sort of balance? How can someone who has had a child removed be giving therapy to children? It doesn’t sit right at all.

If her children were removed for say neglect. That’s not an issue that can happen with her clients so technically not relevant.

Now if she was beating them and then was alone with children that would be an issue.

JLou08 · 29/01/2026 20:13

Many people with mental health problems prefer support from people with lived experience. I know two mental health nurses who have had serious mental health problems. Several social workers who were in care as children and a few who were in abusive relationships as adults. Drugs and alcohol services are often staffed by people who have struggled with addiction.

TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:10

Tableforjoan · 29/01/2026 19:44

Seems likely normal I’d say. As in therapists having their own demons and possible mental health issues.

Think of it like this you might be amazing at telling your friend to leave her pos boyfriend. But you might not be good at leaving a bad relationship yourself. You could give great money advice but be shit with your own impulse spending.

Do as I say not as I do and such.

I understand that those with mental health struggles may be well placed in some respects to help other people who are struggling, however, there has to be some sort of balance? How can someone who has had a child removed be giving therapy to children? It doesn’t sit right at all.

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TherapistKnot · 29/01/2026 20:06

I have no intention of doing anything about it, there isn’t anyone to report it to even if I wanted to. I am more concerned about how common this is, it seems very obvious that there should be some sort of regulatory body, particularly when working with vulnerable people and when money is involved.

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