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Is this messy or normal?

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MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 13:56

So the backstory here is that I have learnt to be very, very tidy due to ADHD and fear of overwhelm. I really struggle with clutter.

DH isn't awfully tidy, but equally not particularly messy. He generally works on the principle that if something messy of his is bothering me he'll deal with it as it's no big deal to him, and a stressor to me. So I know if I raise it, he'll 100% just tidy it, no question. He's a good egg.

However, I try very hard to own that this is a me problem and I can't always expect to control my environment and how people around me live. I try not to raise stuff til it's actually messy, rather than just not to my standard of completely clutter free.

This pile of clutter on DH's bedside table has been growing since Christmas. Ideally, I'd have the surface completely clear, nothing on the top at all. I was OK when it was one book, reading glasses and reading light. To me, the pile that's there now looks like a massive pile of clutter, it's bothering me a lot. I am, however, aware that I have a skewed perspective on this.

So, is this an absolute mess and DH should be asked to tidy up (YANBU) or a perfectly normal amount of stuff to have on a bedside table and I need to keep quiet (YABU)?

Is this messy or normal?
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BudgetBuster · 29/01/2026 17:16

Imdunfer · 29/01/2026 17:13

Mmmm, not true, sorry. Some of us cope with being inherently messy by being super tidy. My desk was absolutely clear every time I left work at the end of the day.

All my paperwork is in one drawer. The draw is a complete mess filled in date order no matter what the subject, so finding anything is a nightmare but it's in that drawer and out of sight.

That's why I said that anyone I know.... I was genuinely inquisitive.

But tbh what you have described isn't tidy... you've just moved the mess.

Brefugee · 29/01/2026 17:16

BasiliskStare · 29/01/2026 14:19

I voted YABU because I don't think that photo is that bad. But if it causes you a problem - different matter.
If you straightened up the books and the medicine packet were popped into the top drawer would that be a reasonable compromise? Or just periodically go through the pile and put some books / magazines etc elsewhere. ( I mean he not you)

I think it was Le Corbusier who said "a house is a machine for living in". Which I take to mean it has to work for everyone living there. But people will have to make compromises along the way IME.

if my DH did that to the things on my bedside table i would do more than read him the riot act.

That is controlling bollocks. It isn't a mess it is normal.

OP needs to work on her issues.

Imdunfer · 29/01/2026 17:15

OP you are being lovely to ask but unreasonable. It's his side of the bed and it's not impacting you physically and it really isn't a very big pile. I have the same number of books as that open and part read on my kindle, it's not excessive.

Cycleaway · 29/01/2026 17:14

It’s not a big pile, but it is a bit of a messy one. I think I’d have to straighten everything up to be able to ignore it - although if it was my DH’s, I’d probably make him put it in the drawer or just put it on the floor between the bed and bedside table so it wasn’t so obvious

Imdunfer · 29/01/2026 17:13

BudgetBuster · 29/01/2026 14:01

Are you sure it's ADHD you have and not OCD?
I don't mean that to come across nasty or anything but anyone I know with ADHD is actually inherently messy and generally Oblivious to the mess?

Anyway.. I think he could stack his pile of books neater but I wouldn't call that overly messy. You could say something simple like: are you finished with some of those books?

Mmmm, not true, sorry. Some of us cope with being inherently messy by being super tidy. My desk was absolutely clear every time I left work at the end of the day.

All my paperwork is in one drawer. The draw is a complete mess filled in date order no matter what the subject, so finding anything is a nightmare but it's in that drawer and out of sight.

KilkennyCats · 29/01/2026 17:12

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 14:14

Personally? I couldn’t bear it. It’d have to put away.

You couldn’t bear to see a pile of books/magazines on a bedside table?
Are you exaggerating for effect, or do you have issues?

Itsasecretnow · 29/01/2026 17:04

MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 16:27

More progress. I think this is as good as it gets. Tabletop is filthy, as is the sill behind, but I'm happy to clean that.

I have to say, whilst I didn’t think the original pile was massively messy, I have a real hatred of piles (of anything and everything) that isn’t stacked neatly and properly. Properly being that all piles have to be sorted by size. All “piles” have got to be stacked by size, ie bigger things on bottom and then going up in decreasing size. So whilst I wasn’t particularly bothered by your original photo for the messiness angle, I have to say - using that weird expression! - it made my teeth itch. And made my toes feel curly 😄 I honestly can never get my head over “teetering” stacks of anything! This goes as far - and perhaps this is one of the worst things - as crockey/pans etc in cupboards!! Oh lord, they drive me up the absolute wall!! I can’t bear it and have to put them “right”!
surwlynthere must be others who feel like this?? 😂

Twattergy · 29/01/2026 17:02

Its not messy. I think you need to allow him (and yourself!) at least one space in the house where you force yourself not to intervene or pass judgement (i accept that is hard for you). My bedside table is messier than DH (just face creams, books, glasses not mouldy food!) . He likes tidy and I dont really care, I'd be super pissed off if he messed with it. Much like your DH i keep the rest of the house tidy along with him as I know thats what he prefers. Bedside table though = personal domain!

CautiousLurker2 · 29/01/2026 16:59

You know that’s not a mess. That’s not ADHD. However, you could buy him a decorative storage box to chuck it all in to sit on the bedside table (I do this because I have ADHD and make a mess and it actually triggers my NT DH).

And yes, you need to give your head a wobble.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/01/2026 16:54

BudgetBuster · 29/01/2026 14:01

Are you sure it's ADHD you have and not OCD?
I don't mean that to come across nasty or anything but anyone I know with ADHD is actually inherently messy and generally Oblivious to the mess?

Anyway.. I think he could stack his pile of books neater but I wouldn't call that overly messy. You could say something simple like: are you finished with some of those books?

Some people with OCD are messy - depends on the type. (In many, OCD is to do with overthinking, etc.)

I have an official diagnosis of OCD. My paperwork was always in perfect condition inside my filing cabinet at work, but on top of the filing cabinet...

However, it's more recently been suggested that I also have ASD and ADHD. I'm nearly 66, so I'm not bothered about looking for another diagnosis.

SonK · 29/01/2026 16:51

I am the same as you OP, and that would be way too messy for me - I like clean, clear surfaces and no clutter.

My husband is "normal" and even for him it would be too much for a bedside table.

One or two books in use and other items such as glasses that are of use would be fine to be left there

Grammarnut · 29/01/2026 16:51

I find that messy and would straigten the books and put the tablet packet lined up with the corner of the table. I may be borderline OCD.

Livpool · 29/01/2026 16:48

I think that’s pretty tidy - more tidy than my DH’s!

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 16:44

Well they’d have to be in a storage basket by the bed.

Gwenhwyfar · 29/01/2026 16:40

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 16:39

Not there

But he needs them by the bed. That's the point of a bedside cabinet.

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 16:39

Gwenhwyfar · 29/01/2026 16:36

Put away where? He obviously needs the pills at night/morning and he probably also reads in bed so the things belong there.

Not there

Queenoftartts · 29/01/2026 16:39

That’s what you call organised clutter.

Gwenhwyfar · 29/01/2026 16:36

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 14:14

Personally? I couldn’t bear it. It’d have to put away.

Put away where? He obviously needs the pills at night/morning and he probably also reads in bed so the things belong there.

Goldfsh · 29/01/2026 16:34

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 29/01/2026 16:18

It's literally the definition of enforcing your opinion on someone

We should never get married. It's not going to work.

WalkDontWalk · 29/01/2026 16:33

That's what my bedside table looks like immediately after I've tidied up.

Within twenty-four hours there'll be a couple of empty teacups, some Digestive crumbs, a bottle of contact lens fluid lying on its side, a green interdental brush, possibly a couple of dead batteries, an empty blister pack of Gaviscon tablets and a magnetic phone charger that I can't find the lead for.

All this will mean that things are back to normal and I needn't worry about tidying again for at least a couple of weeks, when the cat knocks over a nearly-empty glass of Merlot.

allthingsinmoderation · 29/01/2026 16:29

Its a small pile of books and a packet of antacids.....
Its your husbands bedside table.
Normal by most peoples standards.
YABU absolutely unreasonable.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/01/2026 16:29

I must admit that's a bit messier than I'd like, especially with that cable thing.

MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 16:27

More progress. I think this is as good as it gets. Tabletop is filthy, as is the sill behind, but I'm happy to clean that.

Is this messy or normal?
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Calliopespa · 29/01/2026 16:20

I'd do something about it if I had House and Garden coming to do a shoot in my home but other than that that one is a leave it be mess op.

There are real issues in the world: that pile is not one of them.

StrangerThingsHappenRoundTheTwist · 29/01/2026 16:18

Goldfsh · 29/01/2026 16:16

This is literally a definition of 'tidying'

It's literally the definition of enforcing your opinion on someone