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Is this messy or normal?

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MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 13:56

So the backstory here is that I have learnt to be very, very tidy due to ADHD and fear of overwhelm. I really struggle with clutter.

DH isn't awfully tidy, but equally not particularly messy. He generally works on the principle that if something messy of his is bothering me he'll deal with it as it's no big deal to him, and a stressor to me. So I know if I raise it, he'll 100% just tidy it, no question. He's a good egg.

However, I try very hard to own that this is a me problem and I can't always expect to control my environment and how people around me live. I try not to raise stuff til it's actually messy, rather than just not to my standard of completely clutter free.

This pile of clutter on DH's bedside table has been growing since Christmas. Ideally, I'd have the surface completely clear, nothing on the top at all. I was OK when it was one book, reading glasses and reading light. To me, the pile that's there now looks like a massive pile of clutter, it's bothering me a lot. I am, however, aware that I have a skewed perspective on this.

So, is this an absolute mess and DH should be asked to tidy up (YANBU) or a perfectly normal amount of stuff to have on a bedside table and I need to keep quiet (YABU)?

Is this messy or normal?
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ChocolateCinderToffee · 29/01/2026 14:44

Mine is a lot worse than that: three books, a notebook and pen, bedside lamp, little tray for drinks, dish with earrings in, reel of dental tape, nail file. I didn’t realise this was excessive!

BeardOToots · 29/01/2026 14:42

You are being unreasonable because he is reading a very cool vintage DC comic book there…

MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 14:42

checme · 29/01/2026 14:40

Some of the "magazines" look like comics in poly bags so are probably collectors items and he'd be devastated if she popped them in the recycling!

Correct. I'd never dream of throwing out his stuff anyway.

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Coffeeishot · 29/01/2026 14:42

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 14:39

I’d take the magazines out and put them downstairs or in the recycling if not wanted. Then I’d make a neat pile of the books in size order and make sure they were stacked neatly if they MUST be on the bedside table. I’d put the packet of whatever and the reading light into a drawer of the bedside cabinet. I couldn’t sleep knowing that mess was there (I need help don’t I) x

But they are her husbands books and crap on his table on his side of the bed, you don't need to be recycling or moving his books because it doesn't suit your room asthetic.leave it alone😀

checme · 29/01/2026 14:40

Fodencat · 29/01/2026 14:39

I’d take the magazines out and put them downstairs or in the recycling if not wanted. Then I’d make a neat pile of the books in size order and make sure they were stacked neatly if they MUST be on the bedside table. I’d put the packet of whatever and the reading light into a drawer of the bedside cabinet. I couldn’t sleep knowing that mess was there (I need help don’t I) x

Some of the "magazines" look like comics in poly bags so are probably collectors items and he'd be devastated if she popped them in the recycling!

MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 14:40

Mymanyellow · 29/01/2026 14:25

I mean I wouldn’t have it on my bedside table. But it’s not that bad really. If it’s been growing since Christmas what happens when you want to clean or him if he cleans. Just move it wipe and put it all back? That’s a pain surely.

I haven't cleaned it since the pile grew. I can't. If I touched it, I'd have to start trying to put it away. And then I'd end up pulling out everything from his drawers, and he'd come home from work to find me in floods of tears in a state of anxiety, surrounded by all his stuff, totally overwhelmed and not knowing how to begin putting everything away or where it goes.

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Fodencat · 29/01/2026 14:39

Coffeeishot · 29/01/2026 14:18

Where would you put it ?

I’d take the magazines out and put them downstairs or in the recycling if not wanted. Then I’d make a neat pile of the books in size order and make sure they were stacked neatly if they MUST be on the bedside table. I’d put the packet of whatever and the reading light into a drawer of the bedside cabinet. I couldn’t sleep knowing that mess was there (I need help don’t I) x

checme · 29/01/2026 14:38

I wouldn't love it, its obvious it isn't all getting read its just sitting there until he deals with it. One or two items of reading materials on the bedside at a time and medications go in the drawer.

My DH keeps every receipt for everything for ages he has a massive box in his wardrobe going back about 6 years. Its not out in the open but at this point he's never going to go back though it. He should just keep them for the month then check them then chuck them out. At this rate he is going to be like his uncle when we cleared his house a few years ago he had old boxes everywhere stuffed with various receipts and paperwork going back to the 1950's. There was no need for it. Hoarder tendencies.

Gooseyloopey · 29/01/2026 14:35

That would piss me off. I’d be putting it in a wicker basket so I didn’t have to look at it. But I am a tidy freak myself

MessOrNotMess · 29/01/2026 14:33

BudgetBuster · 29/01/2026 14:01

Are you sure it's ADHD you have and not OCD?
I don't mean that to come across nasty or anything but anyone I know with ADHD is actually inherently messy and generally Oblivious to the mess?

Anyway.. I think he could stack his pile of books neater but I wouldn't call that overly messy. You could say something simple like: are you finished with some of those books?

Definitely ADHD. That's probably simplifying it, as lots of past trauma and low self worth from struggling when younger and being told I just wasn't trying hard enough. Lived in utter clutter and chaos til my my mid 20s, when I learnt to strategise my way out of it. I need to keep on top of everything or I just become overwhelmed and can't function. My life is a series of plans that I need to follow as I can only cope with one step at a time. Typical story of late diagnosis after DC's diagnosis.

I strategise really well, and from the outside people think I'm super organised and efficient, but it takes a lot of effort for me to keep organising things in a way I can manage.

DH's mess is his, and so it bothers me less than my mess, not my responsibility.

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itsthetea · 29/01/2026 14:31

Although I have learned that some spots are for his piles

And I have my own pile - although out of sight mostly

and thank you for posting as it helps me understand it’s not jus me who feels twitchy at such things

itsthetea · 29/01/2026 14:29

Can you straighten the pile at least ?

Ilovelurchers · 29/01/2026 14:29

I think he is allowed his space and should be able to keep that space how he likes it.

To me, separate spaces you are "allowed" to keep as you like, are essential to make co-habitation tolerable.

I suppose if your husband isn't bothered about being told to tidy it up, and you would prefer it today, then that's ok.

Only you know how you are likely to make him feel.

Mercurial123 · 29/01/2026 14:28

Sorry buy you have issues. What does your bedside table look like?

noidea69 · 29/01/2026 14:28

Chuck in 3 mugs and a water bottle then you've got my OH's bedside table.

I used to take mugs etc down to kitchen but flat out refuse now.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 29/01/2026 14:28

It's a little messy, but its his mess, contained to his bedside table. If you can't make a mess on your own bedside table, then where can you?

Avie29 · 29/01/2026 14:28

Hmm nope i think this would bug me, but only because its not very neatly stacked lol i would probably just organise the books a bit neater and put the meds away but we have little ones, so meds being out is a big no no.

Mymanyellow · 29/01/2026 14:25

I mean I wouldn’t have it on my bedside table. But it’s not that bad really. If it’s been growing since Christmas what happens when you want to clean or him if he cleans. Just move it wipe and put it all back? That’s a pain surely.

Incalescent · 29/01/2026 14:24

You'd die of stress looking at mine. It has a stack of about ten books, my diary, a few snowdrops in a water glass, a bottle of lavender oil, my airpods, a pen, a postcard of a painting I like, a couple of hair elastics.

TittyGajillions · 29/01/2026 14:24

I'm extremely tidy and hate lots of clutter but I think that's fine.

BasiliskStare · 29/01/2026 14:21

Coffeeishot · 29/01/2026 14:18

Where would you put it ?

Maybe the top drawer of the bedside cabinet - so accessible but neater. But obviously I don't know the set up 😊

SummerInSun · 29/01/2026 14:20

Mindbogglingx · 29/01/2026 14:14

Small pile of books thats all im seeing.

That's not clutter to me and im a minimalist clean freak.

Exactly!

SummerInSun · 29/01/2026 14:19

That is nothing!!! I have a lamp, three books and a magazine (like choice when I go to bed!), hand lotion, face wipes, box of tissues, water bottle and alarm clock. Unless he is leaving a manky mug with mould from a 4 day old half finished cup of tea there, leave the poor bloke alone.

BasiliskStare · 29/01/2026 14:19

I voted YABU because I don't think that photo is that bad. But if it causes you a problem - different matter.
If you straightened up the books and the medicine packet were popped into the top drawer would that be a reasonable compromise? Or just periodically go through the pile and put some books / magazines etc elsewhere. ( I mean he not you)

I think it was Le Corbusier who said "a house is a machine for living in". Which I take to mean it has to work for everyone living there. But people will have to make compromises along the way IME.

BasiliskStare · 29/01/2026 14:19

I voted YABU because I don't think that photo is that bad. But if it causes you a problem - different matter.
If you straightened up the books and the medicine packet were popped into the top drawer would that be a reasonable compromise? Or just periodically go through the pile and put some books / magazines etc elsewhere. ( I mean he not you)

I think it was Le Corbusier who said "a house is a machine for living in". Which I take to mean it has to work for everyone living there. But people will have to make compromises along the way IME.