To thnk that airlines should not allow lap babies on flights?

I mean when my child was a baby- talking 3 years ago- there was not an option where he could have had his own seat- It was a completely must that he had to be on my lap- and while seatbelt sign was off my husband and I could pass him between- for take off and landing he HAD to be on me with his seatbelt that attached to mine.

I’m more shocked that she actually managed to fall asleep whilst holding a baby on a plane😂 . Mine daughter wouldn’t sit still

Not swapping with the dad ideally or the mum at a minimum was a dick move

The usual way this works (uk anyhow, and certainly where I worked) is the car seat is secured to the underlying seat using the passenger seat's own belt threaded as required through the frame, tightened and then buckle fastened.

As a result the seat and it's contents should never become an unsecured object...

Details should all be made clear in the relevant airline's guidance, usually on line..but if you want to pass time reading CAA guidance/tech specs on seats here's something for starters (it's from the helicopter section of the rules, fixed wing will be in there some where and there will.be commonalities.

.https://regulatorylibrary.caa.co.uk/965-2012/Content/Document%20Structure/07%20NCO/3%20AMC/AMC1%20NCO%20IDE%20H%20140%20Seats%20seat.htm

On long haul flights small babies go into fixed bassinets which are like cots & these seats have extra room

Infants on lap are safe, and different airplanes have slightly different safety set ups, but in Canada I haven’t seen or heard of infant belts or even been able to purchase a seat for an under two. I have friends in the states who prefer to fly with a car seat.

My husband used to have his own plane and did a LOT of research. He did install a car seat for when the kids were babies, but had me hold them for take off and landing and heavy turbulence because the seats are not as safe in a plane. I will garble this but direction of forces and impacts are all different as well as the fact you can’t install it properly. There is a red belt you can get to turn an airplane seatbelt into a 5 point harness that is excellent, but many commercial flights won’t let you use them for take off and landing.

And very much agree it’s annoying to sit next to small kids and all their paraphernalia and watching tablets without headphones. We apologize in advance and do our best. Most people prefer 8 hours of paw patrol and toy cars rolling around to 8h screaming and kicking, but not all. Overall our kids have generally been good on planes but that is truly just luck

Was she supposed to leave the baby at home? Do you think he should have had his own seat? What if the baby can’t sit yet? Don’t be so ridiculous. He should have had a seatbelt over him though for take off.

The issue with car seats on flights is it’s not just about the safety of the baby. Plane belts are not designed to hold car seats. So in the event of severe turbulence etc you have a massive heavy unsecured object in the cabin that could hurt someone. For all the people saying car seats are safest, if anyone could show CAA guidance on car seats on planes I would be interested.

You sound lovely

South American family here, my baby was born in South America and we have travelled around. We got lap belts on planes, I don't remember not being given one at any point (they don't let you book a seat for a baby on most airlines unless they are two - this applies in Europe also).
Car seats in cars are also not a thing. I took my baby home from the hospital in my arms in the taxi and held him on my lap for most car rides as a baby. People are used to having their babies and young children on their laps in buses, planes etc.

Me neither. Never. Can't stand the goddamn entitlement. 'ooooh, I have a baaabyyy, it's sooo diiiificult for me, mooove' - like I give a single fuck about you and your brat? Want to sit somewhere specific: book it and pay for it. Don't want to pay - suck it up. You and your baby are not important, not 'speshul', and no one cares about you, except yourself.

I would go out of my way to NOT give them the seat.

Flew last week, and there was a couple, who sat separately, a few seats from each other. As soon as they sat down, they started harassing people around them to swap, so the dude could sit with his gf. No one did. The couple weren't best pleased, but had to suck it up. I don't see why some baby should be an exception.

@CatCaretaker I flew to Thailand with family last year. My grandson was 15 months. He had his own seat, though had to go onto a parents lap for take off, landing and turbulence.
My son contacted the airline to request a seat for my grandson, it couldn't be done online. Obviously you have to pay for the extra seat, but none of us wanted a 15 month on one of our laps for 14 hours.

why? because I have had a bowel resection and need up several times per flight to go to the toilet! I pay extra to pre select that seat. NOPE sorry...baby or not..I will not give up my seat for someone that did not think to pre book..however I will be kind and move and even play with children. but NO I paid for that seat as I need the aisle.

I wouldn’t move from the seat I had booked.

Any decent person would have swapped with the mum, or better yet swapped with the dad so the family could be together. Travelling with a baby is no joke and the mum would have been so grateful for some help. Would hardly have impacted you at all.

Ex cabin crew, they’re meant to be seated on an adults lap until 2 year old. They also need an infant seatbelt connected to the adults.

Over 2 they need their own seat. I once was on a flight where the captain refused to take off until a kid (who looked about 8 or 9) got off their mothers lap as the crew couldn't pass the cabin secure checks . I think the kid had SEN but he kicked one cabin crew in the face when she was trying to help the mother get into his seat.

Personally I choose not to travel with my dc until they’re at least 4 and I’m confident they’ll sit in their own seat.

Outside Europe and "the west" airlines do more or less their own thing. They pull rank when flying in and out of Europe etc but flying eg. Ethiopia to Nigeria they won't bother too much with the "excessive" rules. So they won't check your seatbelts or make people put up their tables. If you are happy holding a baby without an extra belt then who are they to force you. I haven't travelled in South America, but I imagine things are very similar in that respect.

Short haul in South America is likely to be minimal amount to pay for a seat so yes, I'd move.

If it was a £90 extra leg room seat then no I wouldn't move.

Duplicate post

My question was even if you had paid?

Read above, she never paid!

Even if you had paid extra for your seat?
We had a whole family who wanted everyone to move so that they could sit together on the last EasyJet flight I took. They could have booked together like everyone else did. Eventually the mother and one of the children sat down next to me across the isle from each other. Everyone had to point out that they were in the exit row seats and children were not allowed there.
The airline had originally placed them together just behind each other. The crew were pretty fed up with them.

Don't see how it's dangerous
Clearly you haven't travelled with a baby before lol

Yes I absolutely would. It's really not going to be inconvenient for me to sit in a middle sit for 90 minutes instead of sat next to a baby.