to feel uneasy about what this means long term rather than surprised by the weight regain itself?

Oh and before i get told again to get off the thread if i find it triggering

A) I don’t get triggered by stuff like this, i have a genuine interest in peoples opinions

B) even if i did find it triggering i do think its peoples lived experience shoukd be heard

C) misinformation should be countered…not that I feel the urge to do it talking about the jab specifically. Its comments regarding illnesses being self inflicted and that all people need to do to loss weight is eat less and do more when actually that does not work for a number of people

I think most people on WLI have thought through the implications of taking them

its not like there is no information on them, there is an article daily in the press talking about hair loss, gallstones, damage to the pancreas etc (they don’t mention that those issues happen with any rapid weightloss)

i think thats why some people get defensive and do correct misinformation (insulin, short term illness etc) and why some people who keep getting this type of ‘curiosity’, from MN, friends, family etc do sometimes go on the attack

it must be tiring to be told that you haven’t thought it through or that you are making a mistake or that you are lazy or greedy and why can’t you do it the ‘normal’ way all the time

and i know that some posters on here will say its not what they intend or what they are doing but thats not necessarily the way its being received because its happening constantly

i haven’t really experienced this in RL, I have had to correct a smidge of misinformation….mainly the one from people who think you have the jab and loss a stone the next day 😀 but everyone i know has been genuinely interested in how it works, a few would like to go on it but don’t like the idea of taking medication or the cost but most have no interest in taking it themselves.

OP, would you say you know much about obesity generally?

What is the discussion you actually are having then?

What are your points to be made, what is your position exactly?

Because so far it involves the risk of people putting on weight when they dont take the medication any more, industrial waste and misuse

So as with any medication, what makes this one out for your specific special interest?

Are you 'uneasy' for example about drugs that cause weight gain that some people have to be on for life which would also cause industrial waste and are also those likely to be misused (gabapentin springs to mind off the top of my head as with many in that line of work)

Well you look stupid now dont you because thats not what people have been doing, people have been providing information about how they work, what happens, what the research says.

Slightly different ot people like the OP and yourself.

Don’t worry. I’m enjoying this thread - it’s fun to counter misinformation.

I’m so sorry to hear about your husband. Take care ❤️

My take is it’s people who spend a lot of time on line, read forums like this and think everyone is on them, when in fact it’s only about ten percent of the eligible population, 90 percent not on them, based on last stats of 2.5 million on.

as they think it is much more prolific than it is, they think they are getting left behind, the last fat person standing, that everyone else is on them and they can’t get them, or think fat people can now be effortlessly slim whilst they need to work at it. So they come on these forums and show their resentment or envy, if they can’t have them they don’t want anyone to have them, other than the extreme morbidly obese,

they aren’t understanding this is a health issue, or the wider benefits to society, or they do and they don’t care, for them it’s purely about appearance and weight for them. Their own versus other people’s.

Because those threads are started by people who have a vested interest in the subject. From what I can see, the OP doesn't want to take WLI which is fair enough, neither do I, but feels "uneasy" about it. I don't think I have shamed, mocked or disparaged, just wondered why the Op is bothered about something that they don't want to do themselves? I am not triggered about it, haven't tried to shut the thread down, don't feel any need to defend the choices of other people, neither do I care what they choose to do if it doesn't affect me. I mean I guess my question to the OP is "why do you care?" and if you don't care then why bother starting a thread?

Haha, there you go projecting again! I thought you weren't going to respond to me? And yet you keep doing it.

Correcting misinformation! What I see is a clutch of posters putting their fingers in their ears and going lalalalalala.

Equally, nobody on those threads would respond well to people who know absolutely bugger all wading in authoritatively. Which has happened on this thread and is a constant in WLI discussion. There's almost invariably people who have strong feelings with nothing back them up/beliefs that actually go against the evidence. If anything this thread probably contains less of that than the average lengthy WLI thread.

I don't know whether OP knows much about obesity in general. But if she does, she's chosen not to really display that in this thread. Most of her posts have been very short and not engaged with the more complex points. It's quite interesting either way.

I understand you’re having an emotional reaction, but no one is doing what you are saying, they are either correcting misinformation, putting a wider context pointing out biases.

a discussion isn’t just an echo chamber where only those who agree can respond.

But none of these threads would appreciate someone going on them and saying why are you still talking about this, twenty-thousand posts later, in the case of the Salt Path upset threads. And yet every time anyone starts a thread outside of the WLI board, which has thousands of threads to discuss WLI experiences on, on come the usual suspects to try to shame and disparage and mock posters from discussing whatever aspects they are interested in discussing, or whatever new research that has come to their notice.

Why are people who are seemingly allergic to any discussion and not able to restrain themselves from reacting in this hostile way, in an attempt try to shut it down, not able to simply bypass it, the way the rest of us do when we find a subject triggering? I hide many threads immediately if the topic is upsetting to me.

Well I think if things don't change soon, Trump is very likely to affect all of us, and I am guessing that the folk who are on the Salt Path thread actually watch the show?

Perhaps you could pop onto the many Trump threads and ask them that. Or that long-running Salt Path series which I think are up to thread 20...

This is a discussion forum. You are in AIBU. People want to discuss what they find interesting. They want to discuss what they want to discuss, whether that's politics or towels or weighloss methods. There is nothing peculiar or inherently bitter in wanting to discuss WLI.

As a pp pointed out, you and others who are offended by discussion that may raise some negative potentials have the choice to hide the thread from actives as soon as you see it, or to hide it once you are on it.

Absolutely, people think its unthinkable.

No, cloth all the way, including for sanpro. I know, it's a conversation that should be normalised but people generally look at you as if you've got two heads.

Im so sorry you lost your husband. I hope you’re doing ok.

It's so exciting isn't it! Really encouraging to hear about the potential benefits.

well clearly you personally don't need the weight loss jabs then.

When my late husband was alive, he lost a huge amount of weight. Medics told me to ram him full of dairy, fat , cream cakes,and sugar. He wouldn’t eat this crap unless I did. So, I did.

In the end, he gained zilch weight and I loaded it on. 🙄

He died, my appetite collapsed, has never really returned, and I’ve lost nearly 8 stone.

I put on weight when I was eating too much, and doing to little. . I lost it all when I wasn’t. 🤷‍♀️

Lots of people have experienced a decrease in inflammation as an added benefit of taking GLPs

absolutely, my hip doesn’t hurt when i sleep anymore, that change together with the better sleep happened within days of starting

I take it you didnt use disposable nappies, no one ever seems to talk about this.