to feel uneasy about what this means long term rather than surprised by the weight regain itself?

I think that is true actually, the legs regrow about 4 times as fast as they did in the first place

A cautionary tale I think.

Well I have heard people say it smarted a bit and led to some rebound indigestion, but apparently if you take raddish capsules with beetroot juice it helps.

There are some stories on insta of people’s legs regrowing unfortunately, but I take those with a pinch of salt.

Well I have heard people say it smarted a bit and led to some rebound indigestion, but apparently if you take raddish capsules with beetroot juice it helps.

There are some stories on insta of people’s legs regrowing unfortunately, but I take those with a pinch of salt.

What were the side effects of those who use this method of weigh loss, please? What percentage of those who lose a limb gain that weight straight back once the limb is gone? I’d never use this method of weigh loss but I feel the need to comment on it, nevertheless.

True statistic. 75% of people who lose weight have chopped a limb off.

Yes mine stopped using it when her insta feed was full of people who’s legs fell off when they took it.

Yes mine stopped using it when her insta feed was full of people who’s legs fell off when they took it.

Dd stopped taking it when her insta feed was full of people who had gome blind when using it 🙄

Yeah i don’t remember you saying that…

hopefully weve got it wrong and that poster is referring to someone else

pisses me off when i write what i think is a perfectly understandable post and it isn’t understood 😀

Don’t think anyone said it, they just seem to be taking issues with anyone correcting inaccuracies, providing wider context.

so much of what’s posted is about general weight loss not specifically about tn4 jabs, I did chuckle at the posting of the rare side effects and raise an eyebrow at all the young people with colostomy bags due to the drugs.

youd not beleive it unless you read it with your own eyes, it feels like a deep seated all consuming envy of those on the meds.

Not sure I’ve said any of the above either tbh!

Not sure I’ve said any of the above either tbh!

Two posters from the "How dare you discuss a downside to WLI! You are ignorant!" posse did engage with her briefly, later on

i have just checked back, i think you are referring to swing and I as i can only see our replies

if you are referring to me I would be grateful if you could point to anywhere i have said the above, as ive said exactly the opposite

unless you belong to the OP school of thought which seems to be ‘ i will twist everything said to me’ i am hoping not

Huh? Allows it v what? Plenty of ways to lose weight rapidly and the prescribers of the drugs are very clear, lose 1-2lbs a week which most do, if you lose too fast they stop prescribing.

Yes!
It IS worse on WLI.
But only because WLI allows for much greater weight loss in a short space of time than other methods.

Agreed, but that doesn’t make it different to any other rapid weight loss programme. PP was saying it’s specifically worse on WLI.

Yes. I mean if I were you I would leave them well alone

Just step away from them and dont let that person who is forcing you to take them make you do something you dont want to do.

Have you thrown them away now?

But it's not the worst thing that people can say about WLI. For starters, there are the life-affecting conditions currently listed by the pharmaceutical companies that make them. Gastroparesis, pancreatitis, bowel blockages, gallbladder problems, and acute kidney problems, and ileus, or intestinal paralysis; there is also NAION, sudden and complete vision loss, not yet listed as I understand it.

Obviously, if you are morbidly obese, then the benefits outweigh the risks. But if you (general you) are just sick of dieting to keep your weight down, and you have to stop taking them because you have side effects you find hard to live with or you can't afford them currently, or you are unlucky enough to be one of the people who had a severe adverse effect, then you regain the weight (and have in the meantime lost muscle and bone, which are hard to rebuild when older or unwell) four times faster than if you'd lost it by diet alone. Which is what this thread was supposed to be about.

Perhaps you don't have any side effects to mention, and you are lucky enough to not pick up something from the adverse effect list whilst on them, but you can't afford them currently any more, so you go off them. You've gone off them, regained most of the weight, lost more muscle than people who have gone on regular diets and regained more fat in your body composition, if not on the scale (ie more muscle lost, and more fat regained than regular dieters, as studies have shown). Each time someone goes back on them, and loses some weight again, they have again also lost more muscle and bone than if they'd just dieted...

It's going to take years for the real-world data to come in on the serious adverse effects per thousand of population on them, but having read stories from icu doctors about GLP-1 patients in their twenties having to have a colostomy bag for life after a bowel blockage, I would not want to risk that happening, even if it is one in a thousand or more chance.

My guess is that the muscle loss is directly related to rapid weight loss, the glp1s are an especially effective way to facilitate that rapid weight loss.

My guess is that the muscle loss is directly related to rapid weight loss, the glp1s are an especially effective way to facilitate that rapid weight loss.