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To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

737 replies

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:03

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

OP posts:
whynotwhatknot · 29/01/2026 00:45

but anyway noone said on the soch meaning ni stamps

whynotwhatknot · 29/01/2026 00:44

we used to say on the dole down here

SabrinaThwaite · 28/01/2026 23:33

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:42

wrong as someone else commented earlier that in London they say ‘on the sosh’ so TAKE THAT

Nah, being on the social means taking benefits.

Not paying your stamp.

Did you never watch The Full Monty?

Shame on you.

ilovesooty · 28/01/2026 23:17

slozenger · 28/01/2026 23:07

Ok well if you’d particulaed in the thread when it was trending I’d be interested to hear your views. But too late. Alass, cba

Is there another invented word there?

slozenger · 28/01/2026 23:07

Minjou · 28/01/2026 23:05

We know that. This is aibu, you asked and were told. Yes, you're unreasonable. Your premise is inane and your terminology invented.

Edited

Ok well if you’d particulaed in the thread when it was trending I’d be interested to hear your views. But too late. Alass, cba

OP posts:
Minjou · 28/01/2026 23:05

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:57

Because it is a view. It doesn’t have to be correct. It’s my view, not policy guidance.

We know that. This is aibu, you asked and were told. Yes, you're unreasonable. Your premise is inane and your terminology invented.

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:57

Minjou · 28/01/2026 22:56

Your thread was nonsensical from the get go, why wouldn't everyone pick it apart?

Because it is a view. It doesn’t have to be correct. It’s my view, not policy guidance.

OP posts:
Ihatetomatoes · 28/01/2026 22:57

DeftWasp · 28/01/2026 22:50

That's a bit insulting to 5 year olds 😁

Sorry, yes it is. It was the silly 'TAKE THAT' comment to another poster, made her sound like a 5 year old (or a teen).

The whole lack of understanding how society works and collective contributions to cover a range of potential needs, is unusual (or is it).

Minjou · 28/01/2026 22:56

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:51

Er no. But I am increasingly frustrated by people picking apart my thread!!!

Your thread was nonsensical from the get go, why wouldn't everyone pick it apart?

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:51

Ihatetomatoes · 28/01/2026 22:49

Are you 5?

Er no. But I am increasingly frustrated by people picking apart my thread!!!

OP posts:
DeftWasp · 28/01/2026 22:50

Ihatetomatoes · 28/01/2026 22:49

Are you 5?

That's a bit insulting to 5 year olds 😁

Ihatetomatoes · 28/01/2026 22:49

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:42

wrong as someone else commented earlier that in London they say ‘on the sosh’ so TAKE THAT

Are you 5?

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:49

Duckishness · 28/01/2026 22:47

I’m finding it hard to believe OP is 4 years from retirement. The language is of a stroppy teenager, makes no sense, and certainly not someone sufficiently wealthy to spout nonsense they don’t need the NHS or pension in old age.

Is this where I go SO THERE.

Edited

Well I appreciate the compliment as I’ll be saying I am younger now

OP posts:
Duckishness · 28/01/2026 22:47

I’m finding it hard to believe OP is 4 years from retirement. The language is of a stroppy teenager, makes no sense, and certainly not someone sufficiently wealthy to spout nonsense they don’t need the NHS or pension in old age.

Is this where I go SO THERE.

slozenger · 28/01/2026 22:42

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 28/01/2026 22:40

For anyone new to this thread:
No, it is not referred to as 'soch' (or even 'sosh') anywhere. Not here, not in the USA, not in anyone's head except our deranged/ semi-illiterate OP..
Not now, not "before 2001", not at any point during the 20th century...
People have popped up to share a variety of words used to describe the benefits system through the years and in different parts of the UK, but not a single one has recognised this word....

wrong as someone else commented earlier that in London they say ‘on the sosh’ so TAKE THAT

OP posts:
Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 28/01/2026 22:40

For anyone new to this thread:
No, it is not referred to as 'soch' (or even 'sosh') anywhere. Not here, not in the USA, not in anyone's head except our deranged/ semi-illiterate OP..
Not now, not "before 2001", not at any point during the 20th century...
People have popped up to share a variety of words used to describe the benefits system through the years and in different parts of the UK, but not a single one has recognised this word....

Crikeyalmighty · 28/01/2026 22:37

Is it referred to as soch in USA or in politics here? Because I’ve never heard it called that

BishyBarnyBee · 28/01/2026 22:15

MissCooCooMcgoo · 28/01/2026 21:56

She has litterally said she is 4 years from retirement!

Trust me, no-one 4 years from retirement is moaning about wanting to stop paying NI and giving up the state pension. They are too close to the payout for everything they have put in over many years.

The OP has just enjoyed winding us all up with their nonsense.

ChristmasStars · 28/01/2026 22:09

Needtofixmyageingskin · 28/01/2026 21:51

Oh have you not referred to it as "soch" for your ENTIRE life like op?!

For ops entire American life!

DdraigGoch · 28/01/2026 22:09

LoftyPlumLion · 28/01/2026 21:16

Says Whiney reform snowflake.

MAGA, more like

MissCooCooMcgoo · 28/01/2026 21:56

BishyBarnyBee · 28/01/2026 12:07

Yes, no way is OP a boomer, they'd be too close to retirement to be so casual about not needing the state pension or the NHS.

No idea what either the OP or @MissCooCooMcgoo are going on about!

She has litterally said she is 4 years from retirement!

Needtofixmyageingskin · 28/01/2026 21:51

Chemenger · 27/01/2026 22:30

Well I was employed well before 2001 and I had no idea what you were talking about.

Oh have you not referred to it as "soch" for your ENTIRE life like op?!

BishyBarnyBee · 28/01/2026 21:50

slozenger · 28/01/2026 19:51

Are y’all STILL banging on about this

A straight up wind-up then?

Glad you enjoyed yourself but equally glad there was zero support for you on here.

It's almost as if most reasonable people understand why we pay tax and believe in a government safety net. Which is quite reassuring really.

LoftyPlumLion · 28/01/2026 21:16

Says Whiney reform snowflake.

Anonymouseposter · 28/01/2026 20:33

ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 28/01/2026 20:15

You do acknowledge that the term "Boomer" exists - right? Even if you don't think it's a valid term?

A previous poster was talking about the word as if it meant anyone in their 60s / 70s at any point in the future. My post here was clarifying that it doesn't refer to that - it refers to people who were born in the post-war years and now happen to be that age. So you cannot be born in - for example - the 80s or 90s and become a Boomer when you hit your 60s.

But... I don't think it's at all ignorant to observe that generational attitudes are shaped by a shared economic and social environment. Of course, every individual has unique experiences, but there are objectively observable trends in behaviour, voting patterns and values across generations.

As I said further up the thread -

The second world war would be a good (albeit extreme) example. Did every individual have the same wartime experience? No. Was the generation still shaped overall by it, leading to attitudes that made the creation of the NHS possible? Yes.

Similarly - has every boomer enjoyed the benefits free access to higher education and a housing market that rewarded them with decades of appreciation - unearned wealth that they attribute to "sensible choices"? No. But enough of them have experienced this overall that it shapes the general attitudes and voting patterns of their generation - leading to a situation in which the NHS has been allowed to crumble.

Hope that clears it up.

There may be trends but you need to beware of stereotyping people and making assumptions. As for OP - no further comment.

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