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To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:03

For example, I don’t want a state pension - so I should surely be able to opt out of soch based contributions percentage. And just pay a lesser amount to cover anything I do take advantage of.

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RampantIvy · 27/01/2026 23:52

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:27

Stop being facetious. You all know full well what soch/sosh is.

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And you can stop being a smartarse.
Lots of us didn't know what soch meant. My google search didn't bring anything up that was relevant to this thread.

Using buzzwords doesn't make you sound very clever.

FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:51

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:16

I’ve never said to duly opt out. Just that I’d like a discount for what I will not benefit from.

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The problem with that, you see, is that you'll never know how much you benefited from until the moment you die. Well, after you're dead actually given that the state has to certify your cause of death. So no time to give you the discount.

Personally I am a net contributor at present- pay lots of tax, have no children and am lucky enough to be in good health with private health cover. If that persists until I'm about to die I plan to try to "get my money's worth" by expiring in the most complicated way possible and forcing the state to hold a wide ranging inquest at great public expense. Definitely a jury, lots of expert evidence, site visits to a number of distant locations, ballistics demonstrations... well you get the idea.
It's only fair.

Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:51

1apenny2apenny · 27/01/2026 22:37

I am happy to contribute for things that support society, to an extent. The issue I see is that those actually contributing are being expected to give more and more whilst governments give those not contributing more and more. They also in my view seem to encourage things that cost a lot but that don’t seem to benefit society as a whole eg lifting the 2 child cap.

At some point I have no doubt that those contributing will be told that actually they can’t have some of the things they need because there isn’t enough to go round and that’s when it will go very badly indeed - eg the state pension and healthcare.

Lifting the two child cap (and removing the rape clause it implies re a third child) would benefit society. More money will be spent on children in shops, cafes etc and children will be properly fed and clothed. It is no benefit to society for children not to be properly fed, clothes and brought up.

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:51

ItsNotYou852 · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thanks OP, I really needed this tonight!
Though I am sort of wondering how come I'm struggling along on minimum wage instead of 75K, when I can spell, understand how NI works, and that there is no such thing as a non NHS user in the UK.

Well look, obviously I was born NhS and prob immunized too. But didn’t mean I have to use them when I like to self treat. So

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Boudy · 27/01/2026 23:51

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:48

i don’t care for urine related toilet humour

Toch!!!

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😁

ChristmasStars · 27/01/2026 23:50

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:13

It’s self explanatory

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It's not. Did you make it up? I don't know what Soch means.

Boudy · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thank you op..took me a while😆 Thanks all 😁

ItsNotYou852 · 27/01/2026 23:50

Thanks OP, I really needed this tonight!
Though I am sort of wondering how come I'm struggling along on minimum wage instead of 75K, when I can spell, understand how NI works, and that there is no such thing as a non NHS user in the UK.

SouthernNights59 · 27/01/2026 23:49

Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:28

But you have used the health service. You benefit, for example, from having diseases that you might catch and die of being cured and prevented by the NHS. You benefit from the vaccination programme used in this country which confers herd immunity as long as 95% of people are vaccinated. You benefit from a healthy work force. You benefit from the fact that your wages are not partly sequestered by your employer to pay into private health insurance that you will lose if you change jobs, which means you are able to be paid a higher wage.

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Oh please don't take everything so literally. I was agreeing with the pp that we can't pick and choose what we contribute to via our taxes, and I never said I didn't benefit from our health service (I don't live in the UK), merely that I have never used the hospital. If you want to argue with someone why not do so with the OP who is the one who came up with this ridiculous idea.

w0nderingpm · 27/01/2026 23:49

Boudy · 27/01/2026 22:46

'think you’ll find I know how to spell it the MOST'😂

This was my fave. Knew this thread would be fun, thanks OP

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:48

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:47

I’m just amused at your inability to spot the piss being taken.

BlackCatDiscoClub · Today 22:57
'Soch' is in the Scottish dialect, its used as an exclamation for when you find out how much of your tax went on keeping pensioners alive

TOUcHE!

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i don’t care for urine related toilet humour

Toch!!!

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Grammarnut · 27/01/2026 23:48

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:58

Well that would be most people then

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No, it would not.

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:47

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:43

Are you this annoying naturally or do you try hard to be?

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I’m just amused at your inability to spot the piss being taken.

BlackCatDiscoClub · Today 22:57
'Soch' is in the Scottish dialect, its used as an exclamation for when you find out how much of your tax went on keeping pensioners alive

TOUcHE!

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:46

honeylulu · 27/01/2026 23:45

No I’d try some of my self tested ailments and alleviate symptoms

How would ailments alleviate symptoms? Surely they would make you feel worse?

Or do you mean treatments? I really do think you should spend some of your 75k salary in a dictionary.

Interestingly there have been studies about inflecting with other illnesses that cause high fever to eliminate other diseases in the body? So…. Take that!

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Boudy · 27/01/2026 23:46

Tigerbalmshark · 27/01/2026 23:45

Somebody else can pick this one up

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😂

OnYerselfHen · 27/01/2026 23:45

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:42

No I’d try some of my self tested ailments and alleviate symptoms

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Ok. I'll bite. So what treatments do you have for having a stroke or heart attack? Or finding yourself at the bottom of your stairs with broken bones? Or delerium caused by a uti?

Tigerbalmshark · 27/01/2026 23:45

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:42

No I’d try some of my self tested ailments and alleviate symptoms

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Somebody else can pick this one up

honeylulu · 27/01/2026 23:45

No I’d try some of my self tested ailments and alleviate symptoms

How would ailments alleviate symptoms? Surely they would make you feel worse?

Or do you mean treatments? I really do think you should spend some of your 75k salary in a dictionary.

Foodylicious · 27/01/2026 23:45

I think you mean remedy not ailment??
Come on now🙄

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:44

FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:44

We're not all natural comedians like you pal

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Just that woman above, bloody weirdo

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FrodoBiggins · 27/01/2026 23:44

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:43

Are you this annoying naturally or do you try hard to be?

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We're not all natural comedians like you pal

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:43

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:42

No they don’t.

I guess that one went over your head.

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Are you this annoying naturally or do you try hard to be?

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w0nderingpm · 27/01/2026 23:43

slozenger · 27/01/2026 22:29

I think there are better ways - for example

If you want to use public services - pay more sosh.
If you do not - pay less, for example 1% discount for non NHS user.

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Why have you changed the acronym? Are you trying to confuse us about the sish?

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slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:43

WinterBlues26 · 27/01/2026 23:42

I always thought the social (security) was the unemployment benefit, aka the dole. Nothing to do with pensions or schools or NHS. Even so it wasn't said as one syllable.

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Orite.

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SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2026 23:42

slozenger · 27/01/2026 23:39

Well someone commented that lots of Scottish people call it the social as well so take that?

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No they don’t.

I guess that one went over your head.

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