To think we shouldn’t have to contribute to soch if we don’t intend to use it?

LOL sorry - OP’s posts are frying my brain!

Can I add to that, we all pay for prisons, even if we never intend to use one?

Although it could be argued we all benefit from their existence

60, and never heard of this term, and I'm pretty switched on.

I know. I wasn't being serious... Will clarify in future!

OP is trying to self treat stupidity

Of course she gets it. She's winding us all op. Well done op, gave me a good laugh.

I guess I should have added a sarcasm note everyone, sorry!

I'm not convinced many people plan to have strokes, car accidents, heart attacks etc. Yet the data tells us they do anyway.

OP I don't think you get this.

We have no idea what SOCH is. We've googled it, and google doesn't know.

Seriously.. It's not in common usage and we have no idea !

So you are basically saying you are rich, don’t need the safety net that some need so want to pay in to the safety net less.

let me guess inherited wealth or landlord parasite? Well done you, no doubt you’ve got a sob story about being self made, you worked hard, if only the poor worked harder they too could achieve what you achieved, have I called that right Elon or is it Donald?

the men who collect her bins and fix the roads she uses or serve her coffees or wait her tables in restaurants or police her streets… are 93% educated by state schools and kept healthy by NHS services. It’s called benefiting vicariously. Even if she is not a direct recipient, she still benefits from it.

None nhs user would also have to use medics trained outside the UK or that’s cheating. Not consultants who mix private and nhs work

and never need emergency treatment as well as the intensive care treatment

What if you were unconscious?

non NHS user? Better hope you never need intensive care then.

Okaaay.

Nothing to see here, folks. Keep moving.

I wholeheartedly agree that some people take far more than they contribute and I believe we are far too lenient.
A subject which often comes up is parents paying for their own children.
It maybe unpopular but I think men should be made to pay for every child they father. Then if you can’t afford to keep breeding with random women you stop doing it,
I also think claiming to live apart from the mother of your children should not be a reason for either parent to claim more benefits. It’s basically a scam. Fine live separately but you should still pay for all the dcs.
I’d also like to see women being taken seriously when they request to be sterilised. I know of many women who have been refused sterilisation even when they have been in endless pain. The resulting pregnancies and mental health issues etc have caused enormous health problems and cost to society.

Australia has links with the EU:

https://www.eeas.europa.eu/australia/european-union-and-australia_en?s=163

Has anyone found out what soch means yet? I cant be arsed trawling through 100s of posts

And when the life changing event that leaves you penniless you’ll still be happy not receiving health care etc?

in fairness OP im sure a lot of us feel the same but I’d definitely rather have it as a backup than not.

What’s with all the goady threads on finances lately?? Tedious.

You don’t have to claim your state pension if you don’t want it 😂 You must be well off enough not to miss the contributions then!

Look, you can't have people opting out of things which are designed to provide a basic survival mechanism when vulnerable (like state pension and NHS) because otherwise people who are being coercively controlled or financially abused will be forced to opt out by their partners so their wages get clipped less, and will then end up with no access to healthcare, food etc.

They are all very common occurrences. Why wouldn't they happen?

Do tell. In your own time.

Pench and soch ... got to be the same Op.

is soch the same as pench?

At the grand old age of 63 i have never heard of SOCH. It's always just been national insurance contributions here. Chip shop is the chippy.

I always say to people who say they want no part of the European Union they should emigrate to some other country like the US or Australia. Like it or not, we are European in the UK.