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Schools asking for parental contributions

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ButamIwhoyouthinkIam · 27/01/2026 19:40

I’m sure this one will be divisive and is partly down to personal politics but I’m interested in the consensus.

state funded primary, good catchment, in deficit, like many others.

email last week to suggest a voluntary contribution from parents to cover essential materials, lays out case etc. but already have quite a few requests annually for enrichment and also trips. Has active PTA and most families donate to this through usual calendar of events.

email sets out rising costs of utilities etc and asks parents to plug the gap. I’m not sure this is the right solution for something that is inherently gov funded and it feels like a slippery slope.

IABU: it’s reasonable for schools to ask this and for parents to be happy to pay

YABU: a different option eg lobbying gov or showing the deficit would be more reasonable. Contributing financially allows the funding problem to be hidden

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Primrose86 · 28/01/2026 18:46

Jesuismartin · 28/01/2026 17:25

Wow that’s a lot. Is that in London? I think we would struggle with £175 x 2 per month. Is it voluntary?

Yes. It is voluntary. The stats say that 50% of parents in my religion's London schools pay the contributions (only one third in Manchester). My son's future school is a more liberal one with fewer siblings so the proportion of paying parents is probably higher.

Jesuismartin · 28/01/2026 17:25

Primrose86 · 28/01/2026 14:10

In my son's future school ( faith school), 25% of the budget is funded by parental contributions. Suggested contribution is £175 per month. Ostensibly it is to fund religious education but the main religious education is 'integrated' into the regular curriculum so it mainly goes to fund other stuff.

It does very well academically

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Wow that’s a lot. Is that in London? I think we would struggle with £175 x 2 per month. Is it voluntary?

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 16:54

@Primrose86 Well these days cruises are cheap! However it’s always been the case that some will pay and others won’t or can’t. There should not really be judgement.

Yes, most independent schools fund raise and have marketing people. Boarding schools at £65,000 a year do. Oxford university does and in the USA raising funds from alumni is big business. Many parents don’t mind a bit of fundraising but it’s difficult in poorer areas.

Meadowfinch · 28/01/2026 15:06

Gahr · 28/01/2026 14:17

Utter nonsense. If I wanted to pay extras, I would be sending my child to a private school. I'm not here to subsidise the village.

Just as well you haven't sent your child to a private school @Gahr , we have fundraising and additional parental contributions too, on top of normal fees.

They pay for things like replacing the broken heating pump in the pool house. Either that or reduce swimming to the legal minimum, and let down the three state primaries who also use our pool.

Newbutoldfather · 28/01/2026 14:57

When I was a governor we often had the discussion about how to ask for parental contributions. Obviously, you don’t want to embarrass those who can’t afford it but, on the other hand, if you don’t ask you don’t get.

I always think that a clear explanation of why you need funds and a polite request to ask people to give as much as they can and only if you can afford it is absolutely fine.

Most schools are getting more and more savvy about fund raising. It is a massive business. In private schools I have worked for, marketing is a whole department. Even in the state school I was a governor for, we got voluntary help with marketing and did a drive which raised close to 100k. Whilst that sounds great, you can’t do that every year, the most is three yearly.

At my (very affluent) first private school I taught at, they had one dinner and raised over £1million for a new 6th form centre (even though the existing one was just fine!).

This will probably have private school parents up in arms but, as they are already paying the school £30k in fees (around me, after VAT), If they are philanthropic and have a ‘spare’ £10-50k, surely giving to a local struggling state school would be more useful than yet another architecturally inspiring building replacement?!

Itsmetheflamingo · 28/01/2026 14:32

Needlenardlenoo · 28/01/2026 13:53

So when you said "successful", whom or what did you have in mind? It wasn't the students, pupils, teachers or lecturers presumably?

I think it’s very clear from my post. I don’t think it actually matters either, in terms of this conversation. Not sure what angle you’re trying to take

Itsmetheflamingo · 28/01/2026 14:27

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2026 13:56

The current employer contributions are not paying for future teacher pensions but current teacher pensions.

How are you suggesting that current teacher pensions are paid for if current employer contributions are reduced?

I know what current contributors pay for - as I said in my first post is something you would start now that would take decades to realise, tapering down as the last pensioners are supported.

its very obvious that it’s not a quick fix and I haven’t presented it as such

there are many laws and t&cs that stop a employer pulling out of a scheme overnight. It’s obviously not possible so doesn’t need to be considered

Primrose86 · 28/01/2026 14:22

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 14:18

We’ve had grammars here raising £100,000 a year decades ago! State schools. The big boy well established private schools easily raise money. Girls schools, not so easy!

Primary schools have to plan carefully when they know their staffing budget is 85% ish of the budget. As for a faith school demanding money! Appalling - what if you don’t have it? Turned away? Made to feel inferior? Not Godly enough? The mind boggles! I don’t see how they can justify it either. I think parents don’t mind fund raising but regular big payments are not on.

My husband's mum never paid it as she was a single earner with 4 kids but I think most do. Even she was saying it was disgraceful that she knew some people went on cruises but didnt make the voluntary contribution. So she was judging even though she didn't pay as she felt she couldn't afford it but people who go on cruises, she feels they can

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 14:18

We’ve had grammars here raising £100,000 a year decades ago! State schools. The big boy well established private schools easily raise money. Girls schools, not so easy!

Primary schools have to plan carefully when they know their staffing budget is 85% ish of the budget. As for a faith school demanding money! Appalling - what if you don’t have it? Turned away? Made to feel inferior? Not Godly enough? The mind boggles! I don’t see how they can justify it either. I think parents don’t mind fund raising but regular big payments are not on.

Gahr · 28/01/2026 14:17

Utter nonsense. If I wanted to pay extras, I would be sending my child to a private school. I'm not here to subsidise the village.

Primrose86 · 28/01/2026 14:12

ACynicalDad · 28/01/2026 11:27

A primary school budget is about £1.5m if you have 30 children in each year. What parents give will barely change the dial. The vast majority of costs are wages, keeping salaried headcount manageable and classes full is the only way to really make it work. But they are not being unreasonable for asking for a voluntary contribution, but few will raise enough to cover one TA.

My husband's alma mater (secondary) raised 1 million in 36 hours! They put out an appeal and I guess the story was compelling enough

Primrose86 · 28/01/2026 14:10

In my son's future school ( faith school), 25% of the budget is funded by parental contributions. Suggested contribution is £175 per month. Ostensibly it is to fund religious education but the main religious education is 'integrated' into the regular curriculum so it mainly goes to fund other stuff.

It does very well academically

BernardButlersBra · 28/01/2026 13:57

HisNotHes · 28/01/2026 13:32

It is. I’m not the one who went off on a tangent about siblings passing things down.

Because buying 1 thing and then passing it onto younger sibling is cheaper than buying 2 🙄

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2026 13:56

Itsmetheflamingo · 28/01/2026 11:28

Teachers pension scheme

currently costs the employer (usually Local authority) approximately 25% on top of salary, so a teacher costing £35k oncosted costs another £9k on top pension contribution.

the 25% will continue to increase as well. It’s recalculated each year dependant on what the scheme needs.

its the most expensive pension scheme, i believe, in the uk.

its old fashioned because it was designed in a time when teachers would retire earlier in the way medics, fire fighters, police would. It has excessively onerous terms and conditions (by today’s standards)

also classically teachers accepted low wages knowing their pension was excellent. Taking it away would mean higher wages, but you would still save money overall.

The current employer contributions are not paying for future teacher pensions but current teacher pensions.

How are you suggesting that current teacher pensions are paid for if current employer contributions are reduced?

Needlenardlenoo · 28/01/2026 13:53

Itsmetheflamingo · 28/01/2026 11:33

University staff love to strike 😂

DC pension schemes as alternatives to TPS aren’t new, they’ve been around for at least a decade.

they’re striking because they’re being made redundant. In part because universities are about to go bankrupt because they also can’t afford TPS (and unlike schools, they can go bankrupt)m

edited to add-school teachers would strike too. That’s what happens when you make fundamental changes to heavily unionised environments

Edited

So when you said "successful", whom or what did you have in mind? It wasn't the students, pupils, teachers or lecturers presumably?

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2026 13:47

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 12:38

@Newbutoldfather Schools could tell parents about their high slt salaries in secondary schools of course. Primary schools not so much and of course parents could be governors. Many schools can make savings but don’t want to.

What do you think an assistant headteacher of a large secondary school should be paid?

What do you think they are being paid?

CEO salary is definitely an issue in some MATs, but SLT aren’t generally rolling in cash.

HisNotHes · 28/01/2026 13:32

BernardButlersBra · 28/01/2026 13:30

It’s relevant as passing things on to other siblings eases the financial burden a bit. I thought this thread was about the school trying pass on their financial issues to the parents?!

It is. I’m not the one who went off on a tangent about siblings passing things down.

BernardButlersBra · 28/01/2026 13:30

HisNotHes · 28/01/2026 13:26

Don’t think passing down clothes was relevant to your point about contributing to the school twice but ok.

Most schools already do things like renting out to community groups, and fundraising events like you mention. They’re maxed out on possible ways to “earn more” but still need more.

It’s relevant as passing things on to other siblings eases the financial burden a bit. I thought this thread was about the school trying pass on their financial issues to the parents?!

HisNotHes · 28/01/2026 13:26

BernardButlersBra · 28/01/2026 09:43

Depends on what point they ask for it e.g. in year 8 then it would twice in the same year for me. Plus other people choose to have more than 1 child -l only budgeted for 1 in my planning and would have stuck with 1. Having children of different ages also allows passing on of things, that’s not a thing in the twin world.

They could earn more by renting out the hall or sports hall to exercise classes, brownies, scouts etc. They could have school fetes, bake sales, fun runs etc

OP asked for her opinions and these are mine 🤷‍♀️

Don’t think passing down clothes was relevant to your point about contributing to the school twice but ok.

Most schools already do things like renting out to community groups, and fundraising events like you mention. They’re maxed out on possible ways to “earn more” but still need more.

unbelievablybelievable · 28/01/2026 13:08

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 12:38

@Newbutoldfather Schools could tell parents about their high slt salaries in secondary schools of course. Primary schools not so much and of course parents could be governors. Many schools can make savings but don’t want to.

Not SLT. SLT, even in large secondaries do not have large salaries for the amount of responsibility.

You mean the CEOs and high-ups in MATs. The 6 figure salaries for "managing" several schools sitting in an office, never teaching, delegating to the school principal so no actual job to do .

Secretseverywhere · 28/01/2026 12:47

I think I’d object to paying the gas bill tbh I feel like that should be budgeted for. I don’t mind contributing to enrichment activities. We have an active (expensive) PTA so am forever donating they then part fund class trips, cough up for crafting materials and iPads. Teachers are not buying glue sticks where I live.

I don’t mind that sort of thing as it’s optional.

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 12:38

@Newbutoldfather Schools could tell parents about their high slt salaries in secondary schools of course. Primary schools not so much and of course parents could be governors. Many schools can make savings but don’t want to.

LuciaMi · 28/01/2026 12:31

Newbutoldfather · 28/01/2026 11:48

As someone who has taught privately but sent my children state and was a governor for 4 years of a state primary, I don’t think a lot of people realise how hard it is even for successful state schools to balance their budgets.

Firstly, they haven’t been adequately compensated for inflation, which is very high in things that schools use a lot, like heating. Secondly, they weren’t given any money the last time the teachers got a decent settlement.

You can only balance the books if you have full classes, something very hard to do at primary level, especially in London, given the demographics. Even successful secondaries need to be large, most are 6 or 7 form entries, and then be a member of a MAT (multi academy trust) to spread risks and costs of things like HR and accounts.

Given the way teachers’ salaries go up with experience, schools are mostly youth-heavy, which has its pluses, but also its minuses. A good school has a balance of enthusiastic young teachers and experienced older ones.

And, if teachers are long-term absent, most schools will just set cover work, rather than being able to use (or hire in) subject cover to actually teach. TAs who are hired on pupil premium are used to support the whole class, when they should be dedicated to one pupil etc, and teachers are overworked! I get about just under 1/3 non contact time to prepare and mark. In state schools it is often 10%. More time means better lessons.

I think some schools do manage heroically on their budgets. But it is unsustainable, as increasing parental contributions show.

There needs to be an honest conversation about how what is happening in our schools in any way matches government rhetoric (it doesn’t).

Absolutely this. I work in the fundraising industry and the level of misinformation in this thread is staggering.

OhDear111 · 28/01/2026 12:30

Pupil premium is based on fsm. We do know that not all fsm dc are behind. Some belong to very intelligent people who don’t work many hours by choice. It’s a cloak encompassing many dc. Some schools get a lot of pp funding that’s not entirely needed and they divert it. They should not, but they do. Usually to TAs for Sen dc. All schools keep a close eye on their fsm numbers as it’s valuable Income.

Head teachers do the NPQH but that doesn’t make them good managers of people or budgets. Some are very good but quite a few primary ones duck difficult decisions and governors too. Schools get budget projections. The governors know spending has to be tweaked or cut. If a school is facing falling rolls, they must deal with their spending. It’s hard but necessary.

It also depends how you amalgamate classes. Many town schools have done this for years but when you first do it, parents aren’t keen. In well off areas a few leave and go private. The good schools don’t have lots of vacancies! Private schools tend to. In poorer areas where no one can afford private and there are no private schools anyway, parents accept it. They don’t have much choice. I constantly see on MN that class sizes are much smaller than I have ever seen so I’m not surprised schools cannot run within their budgets. Parents should ask about budgets. They are allowed to see finance papers sent to governors. Names removed of course.

Newbutoldfather · 28/01/2026 11:48

As someone who has taught privately but sent my children state and was a governor for 4 years of a state primary, I don’t think a lot of people realise how hard it is even for successful state schools to balance their budgets.

Firstly, they haven’t been adequately compensated for inflation, which is very high in things that schools use a lot, like heating. Secondly, they weren’t given any money the last time the teachers got a decent settlement.

You can only balance the books if you have full classes, something very hard to do at primary level, especially in London, given the demographics. Even successful secondaries need to be large, most are 6 or 7 form entries, and then be a member of a MAT (multi academy trust) to spread risks and costs of things like HR and accounts.

Given the way teachers’ salaries go up with experience, schools are mostly youth-heavy, which has its pluses, but also its minuses. A good school has a balance of enthusiastic young teachers and experienced older ones.

And, if teachers are long-term absent, most schools will just set cover work, rather than being able to use (or hire in) subject cover to actually teach. TAs who are hired on pupil premium are used to support the whole class, when they should be dedicated to one pupil etc, and teachers are overworked! I get about just under 1/3 non contact time to prepare and mark. In state schools it is often 10%. More time means better lessons.

I think some schools do manage heroically on their budgets. But it is unsustainable, as increasing parental contributions show.

There needs to be an honest conversation about how what is happening in our schools in any way matches government rhetoric (it doesn’t).

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