To reckon that Reform will win the next election, and to be utterly terrified about it? 😪

They might be but let's wait until they get into power before judging, they won't be any worse than the other to showers of shite

I'm a bit tired of always being blamed for how someone else votes.

If someone wants to vote Reform, they should own it, and not do it because they are called racist by someone on Mumsnet. They should look at and support the policies because they are the most suited to them.

I don't think they will win. They have plenty of supporters but not enough spread through enough constituencies to win them all. And that's assuming an election now, who knows where Farage will be in a couple of years!

Really? Where are you seeing that

There is no chance Starmer will lead Labour at the next election, so they might regain ground. It will be hard. I'm a lifelong Labour voter but no way would I vote for them as they are now.

Reform voters who are paying attention are increasingly disgusting with them. Even the far right are saying Labour are looking a better option

Really , Tory rejects. You mean the MPs that didn't agree with the majority Tory wets? I think the same things were said across the pond before the orange man got into power but at least they have a booming economy and feck all immigration

Possibly the new centre-right movement spear-headed by Ruth Davidson. It's very early days though. The centre must make a comeback.

I am terrified that they won’t. I think they are our last hope. I am not sure they will succeed but they cannot be worse that the current shit show.

There is a long way to go before the next election and a lot can change. Reform have not announced any policies and on areas such as the NHS, where Farage would look at a potential move to insurance, Reform are vulnerable. However, Farage is also persuasive and they do now have the infrastructure to deliver a very credible campaign. There is therefore a significant risk that they could do well. That being said, I do not think that Reform have any solutions that will leave the UK better off- just more divided and poorer in all senses.

I'm a leftie too but I think even Reform voters will be put off reform at this rate. I think many people voted reform because they were sick or the tories, but now many tories are joining reform! I don't know who they'll vote for instead though

The problem, & the most scary thing, is that while they're floundering about & smashing things up, a future government will have an Augean stables job on their hands trying to put it right. Example: if they do achieve their dream of US style 'healthcare', it will be a very long time before we get it back, if ever. I am disappointed with Labour but they are, fundamentally, getting stuff done - their comms are awful & they keep u turning on things as if they hadn't really thought it through. I also squarely blame the electorate, from top to bottom, who want all the good things but want someone else to pay for it. When asked to play their part, they start to bleat & demand 'change' without thinking for a heartbeat about the country or their fellow citizens. The British really aren't as nice as we fondly believe & take far to much for granted. We'll be in for a shock when the life we've had since the 50s isn't there any more.

They really are and it's 100% certainty.

You mean like Milliband's crony mates or Starmer/Hermers Chaigos deal. You've been conned for 40 years FFS by both parties. Time to give someone else a chance, they are unlikely to do any worse

In the meantime, I would encourage everyone to educate themselves on what the agenda is regarding women's roles. We are always a couple of years behind the US. This administration has a lot of influence on populist parties like Reform. This is an excellent explainer of the policies proposed by the Heritage Foundation (the single most influential conservative think tank which has direct access to the current US administration):
Don't think it won't affect us if we let their mouthpieces into power over here. same applies to the rest of Europe by the way.

I hope you are being unreasonable.

and I’m equally worried

The culture wars won't feed you. Reform will solve sweet fuck all whilst making sure billions flow into the super rich's pockets.
For crying out loud wake up. It's all lies.

I hope they do and I'll definitely be voting for them. I have always voted for conservative but Starmer is the worst ever Prime Minister in history. I have never voted labour as they just support people who don't want to work and are content to receive benefits from those who do.

Personally, I think you're bonkers worrying about Reform being elected. I'm actually worried for everyone that Starmer will stay and Labour will limp on until the next election. That won't happen now though. He's stopped Andy Burnam from standing for Labour so the far left will be up in arms. Will Starmer change his mind? Why not he's done it 14 times in 18 months already so another once shouldn't make a difference. Reform are not going to charge for NHS at the point of contact. They will be cutting benefit bills and they will be dealing with the problems of immigration, justice, prisons, taxes and the list goes on. Why would anyone want a government that hates its own voters, prioritises migrants over the UK residents. Do you realise we tranlate English in this country into 29 different languages, only country in the world that does this. Just an example of the woke nonsense employed by this government. Be afraid of Labour and the Tories, neither tell the truth and if anyone thinks that voting for a hypnotist with the power to change breast sizes or Ed who presided over the post office scandal is a good idea, you really need help.

I pray to god they win and get Kweir out , sensible people will vote reform as we want our country back

Agree and anyone supporting the uni party that have covered up the rape and abuse of thousands of children need to hang their heads in shame

How on earth can you say that?

This country was bouncing along quite well (for most) between the 80s and the mid/late 2000s
Living standards year on year increased, further and higher education free, heck even Thatcher built my nearest city a huge new hospital.

Then came 2010 and Austerity, 14 years of cuts more cuts and Brexit, everything went downhill.

You expect any new Govt to fix that inside 18months??

How long would you give Reform?

illegal immigration….

Labour are financially inept, look at the disaster re the rise in NI, sheer incompetence. Incompetence re justice -two tier Keir. Corrupt politicians having to resign, countryside hating agenda, yes, let’s just build over it and decimate traditions.

Quite frankly my 13 year old could run the county better.

The left has pushed the “be ashamed of Britain agenda too far” we need something more extreme to push it back to centre. Ie reality. I hope Reform win and I hope they ensure that British culture is protected,

I do agree with you. Also, I find, that if you are not pro Reform it's assumed that you are pro uncontrolled immigration and that is far from true in most cases.

A sensible conversation would move us all in the right direction but some politicians and media outlets really don't want that, they want division for their own ends.

I spent last week touring the North of England and ate in a different pub in a different town/city every night. I spoke with different people every evening - all sorts of people. We often had wildly different views but there were no rows, no name calling, we just chatted, found common ground, agreed to disagree where we needed to and had a pleasant time. If we were in pubs more and on line less the mood would change..